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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#861 » by younggunsmn » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:43 pm

Yeah Kessler looks like a 15-20 minute per game player. Does he impact enough there to justify a pick at 19?
I think he'll go somewhere in the 25-30 range. If all the guys we like are gone and its nothing but wings left, i'd prefer using the pick in a trade for a Capela/Collins rather than taking Kessler at 19.

Also really warming up to Alondes WIlliams with one of our 2nd rounders, getting early Kyle Lowry vibes with him as a buff PG who contributes on the boards and plays a good floor game.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#862 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:46 pm

karch34 wrote:19 I feel like Liddell is likely. Kessler I see us trading down since 19 for a backup C is not good use of resources.


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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#863 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:49 pm

younggunsmn wrote:Yeah Kessler looks like a 15-20 minute per game player. Does he impact enough there to justify a pick at 19?

Put him in the Memphis series for those minutes, for nothing more than to rebound, set screens and block shots. Someone in his mold is exactly what this team needs, I'd argue. I think it's easy to get caught up in all of the hype and hoopla of many of the prospects, but we don't need a huge makeover to take a step forward as a franchise.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#864 » by SO_MONEY » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:55 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:Yeah Kessler looks like a 15-20 minute per game player. Does he impact enough there to justify a pick at 19?

Put him in the Memphis series for those minutes, for nothing more than to rebound, set screens and block shots. Someone in his mold is exactly what this team needs, I'd argue. I think it's easy to get caught up in all of the hype and hoopla of many of the prospects, but we don't need a huge makeover to take a step forward as a franchise.


You don't need to set your sights so low... and he probably would have looked overmatched in those 10 minutes.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#865 » by BlacJacMac » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:59 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:Yeah Kessler looks like a 15-20 minute per game player. Does he impact enough there to justify a pick at 19?

Put him in the Memphis series for those minutes, for nothing more than to rebound, set screens and block shots. Someone in his mold is exactly what this team needs, I'd argue. I think it's easy to get caught up in all of the hype and hoopla of many of the prospects, but we don't need a huge makeover to take a step forward as a franchise.


You don't need to set your sights so low... and he probably would have looked overmatched in those 10 minutes.


And that would've been 10 minutes that Memphis could play Steven Adams - letting him impact the series.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#866 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:01 am

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Klomp wrote:Put him in the Memphis series for those minutes, for nothing more than to rebound, set screens and block shots. Someone in his mold is exactly what this team needs, I'd argue. I think it's easy to get caught up in all of the hype and hoopla of many of the prospects, but we don't need a huge makeover to take a step forward as a franchise.


You don't need to set your sights so low... and he probably would have looked overmatched in those 10 minutes.


And that would've been 10 minutes that Memphis could play Steven Adams - letting him impact the series.


Exactly my thoughts.
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Post#867 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:11 am

SO_MONEY wrote:
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You don't need to set your sights so low... and he probably would have looked overmatched in those 10 minutes.


And that would've been 10 minutes that Memphis could play Steven Adams - letting him impact the series.


Exactly my thoughts.


I'm not so sure on that, they took Adams out even with Vanderbilt there for him to guard.

They may have had to play him to match up with Kessler on the glass, but putting Adams on the floor also forces them out of their JJJ/Clarke alignment and takes one of those players (likely Clarke) off the floor, which hugely would have benefitted us in retrospect.
And Adams is no longer the player he was in his OKC heyday. He's lost a step.

Finch didn't have an arrow in his quiver to force Clarke off the floor when he started finding chemistry with Ja and killing us on the glass. Kessler might have been that arrow.
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Post#868 » by wolves_89 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:20 am

Having one of Eason, Agbaji, or Jalen Williams on the board at 19 should make it an easy pick. It will only take one team reaching a little with their pick to make it happen.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#869 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 am

For the record, I'm not saying Kessler at 19 is my top option. I doubt it's even second or third on my board. But I'm willing to concede that it's an option within the realm of possibilities, and I would understand if that was the route they felt was the best way forward for the franchise considering the options.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#870 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:34 am

Klomp wrote:For the record, I'm not saying Kessler at 19 is my top option. I doubt it's even second or third on my board. But I'm willing to concede that it's an option within the realm of possibilities, and I would understand if that was the route they felt was the best way forward for the franchise considering the options.


I think any way you cut it, it would be malfeasance to take Kessler at 19 or use any 1st on a strict center that can't play PF as long as we are rolling with KAT.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#871 » by horaceworthy » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:59 am

Last time Walker Kessler took part in a competitive game he got played off the floor in 13 minutes because he couldn’t contain Kameron McGusty and Charlie Moore. A performance so **** the box score appropriately contains 6 deuces. 2 FTM, 2 FTA, 2 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 fouls, 2 points.

I hope he isn’t in consideration at #19.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#872 » by Baseline81 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:16 am

Klomp wrote:For the record, I'm not saying Kessler at 19 is my top option. I doubt it's even second or third on my board. But I'm willing to concede that it's an option within the realm of possibilities, and I would understand if that was the route they felt was the best way forward for the franchise considering the options.

Look at what you wrote, admitting he's not even your second or third option (assuming you have a board hovering around Minny's pick).

If the Wolves end up drafting him at 19, it was for a couple of reasons: one, the draft didn't fall the way TC hoped, and two, he panicked, going for a need.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#873 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:38 am

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Klomp wrote:For the record, I'm not saying Kessler at 19 is my top option. I doubt it's even second or third on my board. But I'm willing to concede that it's an option within the realm of possibilities, and I would understand if that was the route they felt was the best way forward for the franchise considering the options.

Look at what you wrote, admitting he's not even your second or third option (assuming you have a board hovering around Minny's pick).

If the Wolves end up drafting him at 19, it was for a couple of reasons: one, the draft didn't fall the way TC hoped, and two, he panicked, going for a need.



He isn't even a need. When there are players at positions we could project as starters going out and we draft a certain backup in a marginal tier, what we did is draft a luxury when we actually had needs. Obviously, every team has holes, you can call them needs, but as a matter of importance they don't register compatibly when using a normally finite resource like a 1st round pick. Presumably one would expect a "top 5" in his field guy like TC gets this.
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Post#874 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:08 am

SO_MONEY wrote:He isn't even a need. When there are players at positions we could project as starters going out and we draft a certain backup in a marginal tier, what we did is draft a luxury when we actually had needs. Obviously, every team has holes, you can call them needs, but as a matter of importance they don't register compatibly when using a normally finite resource like a 1st round pick. Presumably one would expect a "top 5" in his field guy like TC gets this.

Rebounding and defense aren't needs?
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Post#875 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:11 am

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Klomp wrote:For the record, I'm not saying Kessler at 19 is my top option. I doubt it's even second or third on my board. But I'm willing to concede that it's an option within the realm of possibilities, and I would understand if that was the route they felt was the best way forward for the franchise considering the options.

Look at what you wrote, admitting he's not even your second or third option (assuming you have a board hovering around Minny's pick).

If the Wolves end up drafting him at 19, it was for a couple of reasons: one, the draft didn't fall the way TC hoped, and two, he panicked, going for a need.

He's not my top option but I also don't have access to the interviews, workouts, analytics or other draft prep that they have.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#876 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:19 am

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SO_MONEY wrote:He isn't even a need. When there are players at positions we could project as starters going out and we draft a certain backup in a marginal tier, what we did is draft a luxury when we actually had needs. Obviously, every team has holes, you can call them needs, but as a matter of importance they don't register compatibly when using a normally finite resource like a 1st round pick. Presumably one would expect a "top 5" in his field guy like TC gets this.

Rebounding and defense aren't needs?


You clearly didn't read what I wrote if this was your response.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#877 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:38 am

Baseline81 wrote:
Klomp wrote:For the record, I'm not saying Kessler at 19 is my top option. I doubt it's even second or third on my board. But I'm willing to concede that it's an option within the realm of possibilities, and I would understand if that was the route they felt was the best way forward for the franchise considering the options.

Look at what you wrote, admitting he's not even your second or third option (assuming you have a board hovering around Minny's pick).

If the Wolves end up drafting him at 19, it was for a couple of reasons: one, the draft didn't fall the way TC hoped, and two, he panicked, going for a need.

It's by no means panicking. It's picking the player that can do the most good.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#878 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:39 am

Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:He isn't even a need. When there are players at positions we could project as starters going out and we draft a certain backup in a marginal tier, what we did is draft a luxury when we actually had needs. Obviously, every team has holes, you can call them needs, but as a matter of importance they don't register compatibly when using a normally finite resource like a 1st round pick. Presumably one would expect a "top 5" in his field guy like TC gets this.

Rebounding and defense aren't needs?

Rebounding and Rim protection are huge needs. Who's going to project as a starter at pick 19? Most likely nobody.
Let's evaluate
PG/SG Beverley and Russell
SF Ant
PF McDaniels
C KAT

I see no player likely available at pick 19 that would start. Sure Beverley is getting older so maybe eventually a draft pick replaces him.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#879 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:44 am

Tankathon now has us drafting

19 MIN
Walker Kessler
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#880 » by theGreatRC » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:47 am

If we draft Kessler at 19, I will throw up
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