The Official Rudy Gobert Thread

[TheZachAttack]

Sounds like KAT

According to history, it's worse than KAT but let's hope he turn it around.

Based on?

Randle has 4 games in 46 games under 15 points last year. Towns had 13 games in 62 games. That's 8% of games versus 21% of games.

[younggunsmn]

You all misunderstand Shrank.

Forgetting/mangling/mispronouncing names is a rhetorical power move one uses to assert their dominance and bait passive-aggressive correcting behavior.
These are high level techniques.
To do it properly you have to be in the ballpark though.
Calling a Kevin "Ken" - briliant
Calling a Kevin "Gilbert" - not so much.

Is it possible that Slink is just getting old?

Shark has been around a while in these boards.

I know it seems like Shrek might be getting a little long in the tooth.
I for one feel his best posting days are still in front of him.

[Colbinii]

Since Gobert signed an extension for less than 100% (Or less than his max extension?) he is still eligible to be traded this season.

Food for thought. Many times when players sign extensions they have a trade restriction for a period of time.

[Klomp]

Since Gobert signed an extension for less than 100% (Or less than his max extension?) he is still eligible to be traded this season.

Food for thought. Many times when players sign extensions they have a trade restriction for a period of time.

Per spotrac:
Trade Restriction: This player cannot be traded until Apr 23, 2025.

[Colbinii]

Since Gobert signed an extension for less than 100% (Or less than his max extension?) he is still eligible to be traded this season.

Food for thought. Many times when players sign extensions they have a trade restriction for a period of time.

Per spotrac:
Trade Restriction: This player cannot be traded until Apr 23, 2025.

Huh, I thought I didn't see anything but this makes sense since typically it's 6 months.

[Klomp]

Since Gobert signed an extension for less than 100% (Or less than his max extension?) he is still eligible to be traded this season.

Food for thought. Many times when players sign extensions they have a trade restriction for a period of time.

Per spotrac:
Trade Restriction: This player cannot be traded until Apr 23, 2025.

Huh, I thought I didn't see anything but this makes sense since typically it's 6 months.

Nothing on the main cap sheet. Had to click on his name to see it.

[shrink]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/news/rudy-goberts-110m-contract-extension-has-clause-could-lead-trade/afa7ec8e7f3c4cc1b45b179f

This “clause that could lead to trade” article is poorly written and misses the point, but it reminded me of something.

First, the two clauses he’s probably referring to is a third year player option, and the trade kicker. Obviously a player option on a bargain contract makes it worth less in trade, because you have one less bargain year that the team controls. And a trade kicker adds to the salary, so that makes a contract less valuable in trade as well.

So what clause could lead to a trade? Still the trade kicker, if Gobert really wanted to be traded somewhere. Players are entitled to their full trade kicker, but can take as much or little as they want. Under the new CBA, teams that are over the first apron can’t take back more money than they send out, so if two teams were over and wanted to trade directly, they would need a perfect salary match. The trade kicker technically gives more flexibility to the contract, if Rudy really wanted to be traded, and most contenders are going to be apron teams.

[younggunsmn]

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I don't know if I've seen this posted here yet, but the exact numbers on Gobert's extension came in and were a little different from the standard 8% raise ascending deal that started a little under 34 million.

Yr 1: 35.0
Yr 2: 36.5
Yr 3: 38.0 (Player Option)

7.5% Trade Kicker

So 3/109.5 for his age 33, 34, and 35 seasons.
And an 11.7 million dollar savings next season over him picking up his player option.

Not a huge overpay to lock up an important piece, but I wouldn't call it a bargain contract either.
We are paying for all-defense level Rudy and if he maintains that throughout the contract it will be money well spent.

Rudy supposedly was holding out for 4 years, but took what TC had put on the table in order to get it done before the season started.

[minimus]

A very interesting plot twist: we have been concerned about who and how will feed Gobert, once Towns was traded, but it looks like Gobert is pretty comfortable passing the ball to Randle and DDV

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[Colbinii]

It will always cease to amaze me how Gobert has been relegated to a Top 30-ish player throughout his career in rankings when his impact footprint has screamed "Top 10 guy" for his entire prime.

[minimus]

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[minimus]

The other Mavericks mishaps that could have cost them came on the defensive glass. They struggled to box out Rudy Gobert all game (another addition to the “Gafford’s problems against physical bigs” file) and allowed four offensive rebounds off missed free throws.

https://digginbasketball.substack.com/p/mavs-game-observations-game-4-timberwolves

[shrink]

https://basketnews.com/news-213879-fighting-in-nba-steven-adams-punch-rudy-gobert.html

Houston Rockets center Steven Adams made a joke on Instagram, following Joe Mazulla's thoughts that the NBA lacks some fighting.

"$20, I punch Rudy Gobert square in the nose," Adams made a comment while tagging the Minnesota Timberwolves big man.

I love Adams! And he tagged Rudy! That’s hilarious!

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I love Rudy. He can be clumsy and loose some easy ball but he never give up. Last night was a good sign of it. Hope he stay healthy and that Finch in the second part of the season do some smart load management with him and Mike.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I'm piss off with Rudy today. Just read his comments about Healhty Minister nomination. I do not have any opinion on that but when your team is struggling, you should shut up your mouth and focus 100% on basketball.....

[Nick K]

If I'm Julius, I'm not sure I take $30 million. I think I'm gunning for closer to $35-40 million.

Maybe, but his last game effort and basketball awareness is closer to Chinese League effort and awareness.

I am not kidding. Randle is 29yo, Gilbert Arenas moved to china when he was 30yo, Stephon Marbury moved to china when he was 32yo, J.R. Smith went during lockout, Michael Beasley 24 and 29yo, Lance Stephenson 29yo.

Randle without effort does not have role in NBA, plain and simple. He has Tobias Harris height and wingspan, but does not have consistent jumpshot to play stretch four role.

So true. I think we lost the Kat deal.

[minimus]

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Our second unit has to improve in defense if they want to win

[shrink]

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After the 2018-19 season, I listened to a podcast where Jazz announcer and BB Guru, David Locke made a surprisingly compelling case why Rudy Gobert should have been considered for MVP with James Harden. He pointed out that while fans obsess on offensive numbers, Gobert’s defense was so good that he was #2 in Win Shares despite his major offensive shortcomings. But Locke’s defensive analysis is what stayed with me.

Locke was one of the first guys I heard to stress the importance of rim deterrence. He pointed out that the shots at the rim were the most valuable FGAs in the game because of their efficiency. Gobert reduces the efficiency of the shots they take, but his real strength is discouraging the attempts. Each game, he forces teams to take several, less efficient, shots outside the paint.

Today, I love seeing Rudy continue to impact the game in the same way. I smile at every one of those times an opposing scorer simply bails out on trying to get to the rim against Gobert (“never minds!” ). I am impressed at Rudy’s willingness and ability to come out and challenge three point shooting. We need to get a back up, but I love seeing tweets like this that recognize Rudy’s impact on this team.

[minimus]

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[winforlose]

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There is a reason so many of us were so excited to get Rudy. He truly is transformative in the way he does the things he does well (defense, screen assisting, offensive rebounding, ect…) Doesn’t surprise me in the least that advanced stats show his true value. It’s just sad that all the glory goes to offensive players in scoring driven league.