Official Anthony Edwards Thread

[AbeVigodaLive]

I think it's interesting to note that Edwards is only 1 month older than Cade Cunningham. It's pretty impressive what Edwards has been able to do, albeit inconsistently, at such a young age. All of the tools are there. I think I stand by the fact that the Wolves, even with Ball's success, made the right choice in trying to Edwards upside.

If Edwards hits he's what wins you playoff games.

But... Ball is even younger than Edwards.

I totally get the hype of Edwards' potential. I just don't understand why Ball isn't granted the same hope and promise platitudes.

[TheZachAttack]

I think it's interesting to note that Edwards is only 1 month older than Cade Cunningham. It's pretty impressive what Edwards has been able to do, albeit inconsistently, at such a young age. All of the tools are there. I think I stand by the fact that the Wolves, even with Ball's success, made the right choice in trying to Edwards upside.

If Edwards hits he's what wins you playoff games.

But... Ball is even younger than Edwards.

I totally get the hype of Edwards' potential. I just don't understand why Ball isn't granted the same hope and promise platitudes.

I didn't say anything about Ball, he's got a big future as well. It's a 3 week difference, but still. I think Edwards looks like he can be a higher level scorer than Lamelo. I think he looks like he will be able to create his own shot better than Lamelo and also score in the half court/isolation better than Lamelo.

I think those things are extremely important, especially in the playoffs when defenses start to play tougher. Lamelo is the better player now and has a high ceiling as well. It seems more likely that he will reach an 85th percentile version of his ceiling than Edwards given Edwards inconsistencies. That said, the potential that Edwards shows in the ways I called out is not something that you can pass on in my opinion.

[Guidus88]

Ask yourself 3 questions. 1, Who was on Cavs during Lebron’s rookie season that you would rather have shooting? 2, Was the game as 3 point oriented when Lebron was a rookie? 3. How was the rest of Lebron’s game compared to the rest of Ant’s game? Lebron was a force from day one, Ant is no where close to that level of threat yet.

None of that matters. As you said, THE NUMBERS SPOKE FOR THEMSELVES!

Klomp be serious. You know I said a little more than that and I addressed things like defense, passing ect... You can ignore context all you want, but we both know when you do it makes an A** out of you. Lebron never had a KAT to play with in his rookie season. Lebron was a decent defender. Lebron took 217 3s all year, Ant has taken 251 in less than half a regular NBA season. I could go on, but the point is if you honestly believe Ant is Lebron or there situations are even remotely similar then we disagree on more than I thought. If you actually wish to discuss my position beyond one sentence which is still correct BTW in the context of today’s NBA, let me know.

tbh in games in which KAT played his stats are:

32mpg
18ppg
40 FG%
30 3PT%
5rebs
3AST
1STL

There is a lot of work to do, but he is growing very quickly.

[winforlose]

None of that matters. As you said, THE NUMBERS SPOKE FOR THEMSELVES!

Klomp be serious. You know I said a little more than that and I addressed things like defense, passing ect... You can ignore context all you want, but we both know when you do it makes an A** out of you. Lebron never had a KAT to play with in his rookie season. Lebron was a decent defender. Lebron took 217 3s all year, Ant has taken 251 in less than half a regular NBA season. I could go on, but the point is if you honestly believe Ant is Lebron or there situations are even remotely similar then we disagree on more than I thought. If you actually wish to discuss my position beyond one sentence which is still correct BTW in the context of today’s NBA, let me know.

tbh in games in which KAT played his stats are:

32mpg
18ppg
40 FG%
30 3PT%
5rebs
3AST
1STL

There is a lot of work to do, but he is growing very quickly.

There are two ways to look at this. On the one hand he does some things quite well. Attacking the basket is a great example. On the other hand he has holes in his game (like knowing when to pass.) No one should expect a 19 year old under these extraordinary circumstances to be a superstar on day one. But, people should also understand that potential doesn’t always pay off (Andrew Wiggins is the easy example.) Ant needs to learn good habits and needs to be willing to listen to his coach and his more experienced teammates. I would just caution you and everyone else not to get your hopes too high on Ant.

[NattaNerNutta]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

You can't be serious? This is a terrible comparison. Sure they both have worlds of potential....but you constantly disregard the biggest differences between Wiggins and Edwards. Wiggins sorely lacks major factors that makes a world of difference, the main being passion, drive and a love to play the game. Wiggins far too often plays like someone only in it for the paycheck...perfectly comfortable to coast on god given talent and do just enough, and tease just enough from time to time, to carry the "potential" aura. Wiggins always reminded me of Derrick Coleman, all the talent to dominate, a walking 20/10 guy who was comfortable with being just that.

Edwards actually plays with a pulse and actually enjoys playing. He has a swagger to his game that shows great confidence yet knows that he still has a lot to learn. I'm getting sick of the comparison to Wiggins when it's obvious to anyone who watches them play that Edwards plays with nowhere near the mentality that Wiggins floats around the court with. At this point any comparisons between the two is a cop-out and just plain lazy.

[AbeVigodaLive]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

You can't be serious? This is a terrible comparison. Sure they both have worlds of potential....but you constantly disregard the biggest differences between Wiggins and Edwards. Wiggins sorely lacks major factors that makes a world of difference, the main being passion, drive and a love to play the game. Wiggins far too often plays like someone only in it for the paycheck...perfectly comfortable to coast on god given talent and do just enough, and tease just enough from time to time, to carry the "potential" aura. Wiggins always reminded me of Derrick Coleman, all the talent to dominate, a walking 20/10 guy who was comfortable with being just that.

Edwards actually plays with a pulse and actually enjoys playing. He has a swagger to his game that shows great confidence yet knows that he still has a lot to learn. I'm getting sick of the comparison to Wiggins when it's obvious to anyone who watches them play that Edwards plays with nowhere near the mentality that Wiggins floats around the court with. At this point any comparisons between the two is a cop-out and just plain lazy.

Ha. How could you possibly know any of this?

Are you close with "a person familiar with their thinking" or something?

[life_saver]

One thing I have observed is that his drives have become more efficient since KAT came back...paint not being crowded definitely helps him when KAT is playing.

[NattaNerNutta]

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

You can't be serious? This is a terrible comparison. Sure they both have worlds of potential....but you constantly disregard the biggest differences between Wiggins and Edwards. Wiggins sorely lacks major factors that makes a world of difference, the main being passion, drive and a love to play the game. Wiggins far too often plays like someone only in it for the paycheck...perfectly comfortable to coast on god given talent and do just enough, and tease just enough from time to time, to carry the "potential" aura. Wiggins always reminded me of Derrick Coleman, all the talent to dominate, a walking 20/10 guy who was comfortable with being just that.

Edwards actually plays with a pulse and actually enjoys playing. He has a swagger to his game that shows great confidence yet knows that he still has a lot to learn. I'm getting sick of the comparison to Wiggins when it's obvious to anyone who watches them play that Edwards plays with nowhere near the mentality that Wiggins floats around the court with. At this point any comparisons between the two is a cop-out and just plain lazy.

Ha. How could you possibly know any of this?

Are you close with "a person familiar with their thinking" or something?

Well, your response is very disingenuous and reeks of someone just arguing for arguments sake. If you honestly can't blatantly see the difference in demeanor between watching Edwards on the court and Wiggins then either you're not watching them play or you're purposely ignoring it. And if the latter is the case there really isn't a point in going back and forth.

You don't need to be close to Edwards, or his family, to see the difference in how they carry themselves while playing.

[winforlose]

You can't be serious? This is a terrible comparison. Sure they both have worlds of potential....but you constantly disregard the biggest differences between Wiggins and Edwards. Wiggins sorely lacks major factors that makes a world of difference, the main being passion, drive and a love to play the game. Wiggins far too often plays like someone only in it for the paycheck...perfectly comfortable to coast on god given talent and do just enough, and tease just enough from time to time, to carry the "potential" aura. Wiggins always reminded me of Derrick Coleman, all the talent to dominate, a walking 20/10 guy who was comfortable with being just that.

Edwards actually plays with a pulse and actually enjoys playing. He has a swagger to his game that shows great confidence yet knows that he still has a lot to learn. I'm getting sick of the comparison to Wiggins when it's obvious to anyone who watches them play that Edwards plays with nowhere near the mentality that Wiggins floats around the court with. At this point any comparisons between the two is a cop-out and just plain lazy.

Ha. How could you possibly know any of this?

Are you close with "a person familiar with their thinking" or something?

Well, your response is very disingenuous and reeks of someone just arguing for arguments sake. If you honestly can't blatantly see the difference in demeanor between watching Edwards on the court and Wiggins then either you're not watching them play or you're purposely ignoring it. And if the latter is the case there really isn't a point in going back and forth.

You don't need to be close to Edwards, or his family, to see the difference in how they carry themselves while playing.

Last year Wig promised to be an all star. This year Kerr has talked about Wiggins like he is the second coming. Anyone can say anything about anyone. Ant is cocky, he is also a chucker who said he would rather be playing football. If you are basing your assessment on the fact that he smiles when his team loses by 20 your rather confused.

[_AIJ_]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

Or you are just his biggest hater

[winforlose]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

Or you are just his biggest hater

There is a difference between hating and evaluating. I like the kid when he attacks the rim. I like the kid when he makes the smart defensive play. I dislike the kid when he shoots 14 3s in a game half of them without ever passing the ball. I dislike the kid when he dribbles for 15 seconds and passes to a guarded Naz Reid behind the arc with 5 seconds left on the shot clock. You know the one word all my examples have in common? “Kid.” Because, he is a kid at 19. I don’t demand excellence or consistency at 19, what I do demand is work ethic and willingness to listen to your coach and learn from your mistakes. He could be great or not, that’s just the truth.

[Jedzz]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

Or you are just his biggest hater

He's got competition in that arena, I don't mind saying. I don't think winforlose is hating at all. He's just wary given some of Ants antics if you will. Same as I do I would think.

He's already somewhat proven he might end up a person that never listens to anyone. They call that uncoachable and it's risky sinking all your eggs into a basket like that. Especially when he's shown gameIQ is where he needs instruction.

But of course I can't claim that's his future. He could yet become coachable. It's just that he keeps showing there is a risk there and too many just act like it's just a positive confidence. Talk is cheap man. When he starts to show us a 20 game average of >35% from 3 than maybe he can call himself an average shooter. Until then he's earning a chucker label from me already.

He's already learned that 29% in college was enough for a #1 overall pick. Which was enough for starting 16 games into his NBA career. He's just gotten himself up to 31% and that's apparently enough for confidently letting 14 3s fly a game. Who's to say he even knows how much he needs to improve yet?

His last 15 games he's shot 39% FG and 31.1% 3FG, with games of 3pA as high as 9,10,10,11,14. During the last 15 games, in the games where he attempted 6 or more 3s, he's averaged 32.9%.

I can see the possibility of the Coach's comparison to a mix of two players. Sure. I said he was Harden-lite long before the draft, and he shown he can bring real gravitas to driving the net. But if he thinks what he's been doing has been good enough to hog the ball that much I wouldn't mind the coach actually comparing his numbers to someone like Harden so he knows how much he's got to learn and improve yet to deserve such ball time. it can be argued that he's being developed just like Wiggins was, with red carpets and swooning over any cracked smiles. But at least we had a coach already call attention to something openly. That never happened with Wiggins. So maybe there is hope. Not sure.

[winforlose]

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

Or you are just his biggest hater

He's got competition in that arena, I don't mind saying. I don't think winforlose is hating at all. He's just wary given some of Ants antics if you will. Same as I do I would think.

He's already somewhat proven he might end up a person that never listens to anyone. They call that uncoachable and it's risky sinking all your eggs into a basket like that. Especially when he's shown gameIQ is where he needs instruction.

But of course I can't claim that's his future. He could yet become coachable. It's just that he keeps showing there is a risk there and too many just act like it's just a positive confidence. Talk is cheap man. When he starts to show us a 20 game average of >35% from 3 than maybe he can call himself an average shooter. Until then he's earning a chucker label from me already.

He's already learned that 29% in college was enough for a #1 overall pick. Which was enough for starting 16 games into his NBA career. He's just gotten himself up to 31% and that's apparently enough for confidently letting 14 3s fly a game. Who's to say he even knows how much he needs to improve yet?

His last 15 games he's shot 39% FG and 31.1% 3FG, with games of 3pA as high as 9,10,10,11,14. During the last 15 games, in the games where he attempted 6 or more 3s, he's averaged 32.9%.

I can see the possibility of the Coach's comparison to a mix of two players. Sure. I said he was Harden-lite long before the draft, and he shown he can bring real gravitas to driving the net. But if he thinks what he's been doing has been good enough to hog the ball that much I wouldn't mind the coach actually comparing his numbers to someone like Harden so he knows how much he's got to learn and improve yet to deserve such ball time. it can be argued that he's being developed just like Wiggins was, with red carpets and swooning over any cracked smiles. But at least we had a coach already call attention to something openly. That never happened with Wiggins. So maybe there is hope. Not sure.

One thing to add. There is difference between smiling because you love the game, and smiling when you should be mad as hell. It’s okay to smile after posterizing someone. It’s not okay to smile when you just blew another defensive assignment and your losing by 20. I want my stars to care about winning and have enough pride to get mad and fight harder. Wiggins was too disengaged, and Ant smiling and celebrating regardless of what is happening is not swagger, it’s just another form of disengagement. Beyond that point, I agree, he needs to be coachable, and he needs to want to get better not just get by.

[_AIJ_]

Donovan Mitchell tonight, 42 points 16/30 4/12 from three. No one cared he took 30 shots in a loss. With Ant, ball stopper, ball hog, low iq. Wtf is that.

[FinnTheHuman]

Well guys, I see you are trying to delay eating crow with these stories that we should still be reserved about his future, but it’s not really wise, it’s better to get that out of your way now and then enjoy the ride on the bandwagon. I’ve been enjoying it since the moment we drafted the guy, and it’s really fun I tell ya

[FinnTheHuman]

Or you are just his biggest hater

He's got competition in that arena, I don't mind saying. I don't think winforlose is hating at all. He's just wary given some of Ants antics if you will. Same as I do I would think.

He's already somewhat proven he might end up a person that never listens to anyone. They call that uncoachable and it's risky sinking all your eggs into a basket like that. Especially when he's shown gameIQ is where he needs instruction.

But of course I can't claim that's his future. He could yet become coachable. It's just that he keeps showing there is a risk there and too many just act like it's just a positive confidence. Talk is cheap man. When he starts to show us a 20 game average of >35% from 3 than maybe he can call himself an average shooter. Until then he's earning a chucker label from me already.

He's already learned that 29% in college was enough for a #1 overall pick. Which was enough for starting 16 games into his NBA career. He's just gotten himself up to 31% and that's apparently enough for confidently letting 14 3s fly a game. Who's to say he even knows how much he needs to improve yet?

His last 15 games he's shot 39% FG and 31.1% 3FG, with games of 3pA as high as 9,10,10,11,14. During the last 15 games, in the games where he attempted 6 or more 3s, he's averaged 32.9%.

I can see the possibility of the Coach's comparison to a mix of two players. Sure. I said he was Harden-lite long before the draft, and he shown he can bring real gravitas to driving the net. But if he thinks what he's been doing has been good enough to hog the ball that much I wouldn't mind the coach actually comparing his numbers to someone like Harden so he knows how much he's got to learn and improve yet to deserve such ball time. it can be argued that he's being developed just like Wiggins was, with red carpets and swooning over any cracked smiles. But at least we had a coach already call attention to something openly. That never happened with Wiggins. So maybe there is hope. Not sure.

One thing to add. There is difference between smiling because you love the game, and smiling when you should be mad as hell. It’s okay to smile after posterizing someone. It’s not okay to smile when you just blew another defensive assignment and your losing by 20. I want my stars to care about winning and have enough pride to get mad and fight harder. Wiggins was too disengaged, and Ant smiling and celebrating regardless of what is happening is not swagger, it’s just another form of disengagement. Beyond that point, I agree, he needs to be coachable, and he needs to want to get better not just get by.

Smiling doesn’t have to mean disengagement, it can mean being constructive about a loss and being able to learn from it while remaining positive. Players shouldn't have to be forced to try to look pissed because fans are pissed about a loss, they shouldn't submit to your immaturity.

Please stop with this, nobody’s buying that you’re sincere with your nit-picky criticism towards Edwards anymore. You're literally nit-picking guy's behavior and making dumb conclusions that portray him in negative light right after the guy had a 40+ point game on a decent efficiency in a close win against the 2nd team in the West, and all that while being 19. Zero sense in what you're doing.

[Dewey]

Donovan Mitchell tonight, 42 points 16/30 4/12 from three. No one cared he took 30 shots in a loss. With Ant, ball stopper, ball hog, low iq. Wtf is that.

Please realize you are not dealing with typical adults here or any other thread site ... you got people with fake names for a reason ... always gonna have a bucket of dip-$H1t’$ blabbering.

[Dewey]

Or you are just his biggest hater

He's got competition in that arena, I don't mind saying. I don't think winforlose is hating at all. He's just wary given some of Ants antics if you will. Same as I do I would think.

He's already somewhat proven he might end up a person that never listens to anyone. They call that uncoachable and it's risky sinking all your eggs into a basket like that. Especially when he's shown gameIQ is where he needs instruction.

But of course I can't claim that's his future. He could yet become coachable. It's just that he keeps showing there is a risk there and too many just act like it's just a positive confidence. Talk is cheap man. When he starts to show us a 20 game average of >35% from 3 than maybe he can call himself an average shooter. Until then he's earning a chucker label from me already.

He's already learned that 29% in college was enough for a #1 overall pick. Which was enough for starting 16 games into his NBA career. He's just gotten himself up to 31% and that's apparently enough for confidently letting 14 3s fly a game. Who's to say he even knows how much he needs to improve yet?

His last 15 games he's shot 39% FG and 31.1% 3FG, with games of 3pA as high as 9,10,10,11,14. During the last 15 games, in the games where he attempted 6 or more 3s, he's averaged 32.9%.

I can see the possibility of the Coach's comparison to a mix of two players. Sure. I said he was Harden-lite long before the draft, and he shown he can bring real gravitas to driving the net. But if he thinks what he's been doing has been good enough to hog the ball that much I wouldn't mind the coach actually comparing his numbers to someone like Harden so he knows how much he's got to learn and improve yet to deserve such ball time. it can be argued that he's being developed just like Wiggins was, with red carpets and swooning over any cracked smiles. But at least we had a coach already call attention to something openly. That never happened with Wiggins. So maybe there is hope. Not sure.

One thing to add. There is difference between smiling because you love the game, and smiling when you should be mad as hell. It’s okay to smile after posterizing someone. It’s not okay to smile when you just blew another defensive assignment and your losing by 20. I want my stars to care about winning and have enough pride to get mad and fight harder. Wiggins was too disengaged, and Ant smiling and celebrating regardless of what is happening is not swagger, it’s just another form of disengagement. Beyond that point, I agree, he needs to be coachable, and he needs to want to get better not just get by.

Best player I ever played with smiled all the time... pure stud ... smiled and talked all the time - especially when he was pissed off. Some don’t wanna let their negativity show... some wanna act all business like and put on a fake tough guy look. If you actually think his smile is a bad sign,... well, your a

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[Klomp]

Donovan Mitchell tonight, 42 points 16/30 4/12 from three. No one cared he took 30 shots in a loss. With Ant, ball stopper, ball hog, low iq. Wtf is that.

I don't get where 40+ points on 30 shots became inefficient all of a sudden.....I always thought it was when FGAs and points were closer together. Like within 5 at this volume, not 12. Zero issues whatsoever with the volume, other than he wouldn't have had to shoot so much if other teammates beyond Towns came to the party.