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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#881 » by guest81 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:25 pm

Ant is averaging 28 points in 27 points on 50-50-80 shooting! Just insane numbers. Would probably be a bigger story if other players weren't having similar crazy starts
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#882 » by frankenwolf » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:47 pm

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winforlose wrote:This is compelling, but again only partially true. One easy example is the rebounding and shot differentials. Against the Knicks they took 19 more shots than us and scored 31 2nd chance and 31 points off turnovers (is that 2nd one correct or am I mistaking it?) You also fail to account for shooting rhythms and foul trouble as a result of the poor defense. It is more complicated then the A or B example you provided.

We probably lost that game in the 3rd quarter, correct? I'd say so since we went from up by 4 points at halftime to a 10-point deficit entering the 4th quarter.

Here are how the Gobert-specific rotations went in the 3rd quarter:
Knicks start the quarter with a 17-9 run over 5:53, with Gobert on the floor.
Once Gobert sits, the Knicks go on a 13-9 run over 3:24
Gobert comes in for the final 2:43, and the teams play even at 10-10

With: Outscored 27-19 over 8:36
Without: Outscored 13-9 over 3:24

Were the Timberwolves more successful with Rudy Gobert on the court without him?


They were more successful with Rudy on the court: PPM W/Rudy 3.17, PPM w/o Rudy 3.71
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#883 » by winforlose » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:51 pm

frankenwolf wrote:
Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:This is compelling, but again only partially true. One easy example is the rebounding and shot differentials. Against the Knicks they took 19 more shots than us and scored 31 2nd chance and 31 points off turnovers (is that 2nd one correct or am I mistaking it?) You also fail to account for shooting rhythms and foul trouble as a result of the poor defense. It is more complicated then the A or B example you provided.

We probably lost that game in the 3rd quarter, correct? I'd say so since we went from up by 4 points at halftime to a 10-point deficit entering the 4th quarter.

Here are how the Gobert-specific rotations went in the 3rd quarter:
Knicks start the quarter with a 17-9 run over 5:53, with Gobert on the floor.
Once Gobert sits, the Knicks go on a 13-9 run over 3:24
Gobert comes in for the final 2:43, and the teams play even at 10-10

With: Outscored 27-19 over 8:36
Without: Outscored 13-9 over 3:24

Were the Timberwolves more successful with Rudy Gobert on the court without him?


With Rudy on the court: PPM W/Rudy 3.17, PPM w/o Rudy 3.71


Interesting, do we have the inverse stat as well? Points scored against us per minute with and without?
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#884 » by frankenwolf » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:54 pm

winforlose wrote:
frankenwolf wrote:
Klomp wrote:We probably lost that game in the 3rd quarter, correct? I'd say so since we went from up by 4 points at halftime to a 10-point deficit entering the 4th quarter.

Here are how the Gobert-specific rotations went in the 3rd quarter:
Knicks start the quarter with a 17-9 run over 5:53, with Gobert on the floor.
Once Gobert sits, the Knicks go on a 13-9 run over 3:24
Gobert comes in for the final 2:43, and the teams play even at 10-10

With: Outscored 27-19 over 8:36
Without: Outscored 13-9 over 3:24

Were the Timberwolves more successful with Rudy Gobert on the court without him?


With Rudy on the court: PPM W/Rudy 3.17, PPM w/o Rudy 3.71


Interesting, do we have the inverse stat as well? Points scored against us per minute with and without?


My apologies, the numbers are the points surrendered per minute based on this sample. I did not phrase that well.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#885 » by winforlose » Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:07 pm

frankenwolf wrote:
winforlose wrote:
frankenwolf wrote:
With Rudy on the court: PPM W/Rudy 3.17, PPM w/o Rudy 3.71


Interesting, do we have the inverse stat as well? Points scored against us per minute with and without?


My apologies, the numbers are the points surrendered per minute based on this sample. I did not phrase that well.


No worries. Can we find the inverse of that stat, points scored per minute with and without?
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#886 » by frankenwolf » Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:14 pm

winforlose wrote:
frankenwolf wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Interesting, do we have the inverse stat as well? Points scored against us per minute with and without?


My apologies, the numbers are the points surrendered per minute based on this sample. I did not phrase that well.


No worries. Can we find the inverse of that stat, points scored per minute with and without?


Based on the sample: On court 2.23 PPM Off 2.57 PPM

I will have to look into doing a season to date analysis.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#887 » by Klomp » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:46 pm

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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#888 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:49 pm

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It'll be awesome if we can keep it anywhere close to that when we aren't playing Utah and Sacramento.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#889 » by Klomp » Yesterday 11:39 pm

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