Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition

[twolves31]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

[Mamba4Goat]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

I wonder what needs to be added to a pick swap heavy package (probably sent to a third team) to make this Dejounte Murray. Anderson, Milton, and TBJ can get you there money wise.

[shrink]

Do you think bringing in Jalen McDaniels would improve Jaden?

Jalen is stinking it up right now, and isn’t playable, but maybe if he’s going up against his brother in practice, both get better? I like TBJ, but we don’t have the minutes for him. TBJ for Jalen + 2nd?

[Neeva]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

I wonder what needs to be added to a pick swap heavy package (probably sent to a third team) to make this Dejounte Murray. Anderson, Milton, and TBJ can get you there money wise.

We don’t want Murray he is extremely mid and overpaid. A lot of Atlanta’s losses are because of his poor play. The game where he couldn’t miss against the Timberwolves was an aberration. He flat out is nota winning or clutch player worth 28-30 million a year.

[shangrila]

If we're not concerned about the luxury tax, how about Malcolm Brogdon?

You can get there financially with Anderson, Shake and WMJ. Add whatever draft compensation we need to bridge the value gap, then we've got a 6MOY candidate as a 1/2 guard. Probably need to sign a few buyout guys to fill out the roster although maybe we'll actually be in the mix for the good ones for a change?

Leaves us with a 9 man rotation of Conley, Ant, Jaden, KAT, Rudy, Brogdon, NAW, Reid and TBJ.

[Dewey]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

If we are serious about a title run, we will acquire a starting caliber PG/ComboGuard… if Conley goes down we are ****ed

[winforlose]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

If we are serious about a title run, we will acquire a starting caliber PG/ComboGuard… if Conley goes down we are ****ed

Was thinking a bit about GSW and the Curry window. He is already 35 and turning 36 in March. If any team could use a win now player and trade a young stud to get there it would be GSW. This is a number of moves and might sound nuts but,

GSW out: Podz, Kuminga, and a 2nd,
GSW in: Kyle Anderson

Wizards out: Tyus Jones
Wizards in: Shake Milton, Kuminga, GSW 2nd

Wolves out: Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton,
Wolves in: Podz and Tyus Jones

This might take our second as well.

This move adds over 3.3 million which forces more moves.

Next move is WMJ into cap space, (Could go to Washington if they want him, or else to literally anyone who does for basically nothing (maybe a distant 2nd if we can swing it.

That still doesn’t fix the cap so the next move is TBJ out for a vet Minimum PF, or send out JMAC for cap space and a pick. If I did the math right that should save just enough to convert both Nix and Garza.

1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller/Vet, Naz
3rd line, JMAC, Minott, Miller/Vet, Garza

If we keep TBJ


1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller, Naz
3rd line, Nix, Minott, TBJ, Garza

[minimus]

The way our roster is constructed I truly believe that our next two season we will try to survive drafting guys in 2nd round or finding undrafted guys. It means no Tyus Jones, no MLE guys.

It is very difficult because we really need to find steals AND we might shift focus from high potential raw players to disciplined, mature players with limited talent.

Two examples: Toumani Camara and Collin Gillespie

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Let say our rotation for the next season would be:

Gobert/Towns + Garza
Towns/Reid/Camara + Miller
McDaniels/TBJ/Minott
Edwards/NAW/Moore
Conley/Gillespie/McLaughlin

If Camara and Gillespie can play their roles (energy big and spotup 3pt shooter), I dont see much concerns.

Now Connelly "just" needs to find our version of Toumani Camara and Collin Gillespie

[Neeva]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

If we are serious about a title run, we will acquire a starting caliber PG/ComboGuard… if Conley goes down we are ****ed

Was thinking a bit about GSW and the Curry window. He is already 35 and turning 36 in March. If any team could use a win now player and trade a young stud to get there it would be GSW. This is a number of moves and might sound nuts but,

GSW out: Podz, Kuminga, and a 2nd,
GSW in: Kyle Anderson

Wizards out: Tyus Jones
Wizards in: Shake Milton, Kuminga, GSW 2nd

Wolves out: Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton,
Wolves in: Podz and Tyus Jones

This might take our second as well.

This move adds over 3.3 million which forces more moves.

Next move is WMJ into cap space, (Could go to Washington if they want him, or else to literally anyone who does for basically nothing (maybe a distant 2nd if we can swing it.

That still doesn’t fix the cap so the next move is TBJ out for a vet Minimum PF, or send out JMAC for cap space and a pick. If I did the math right that should save just enough to convert both Nix and Garza.

1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller/Vet, Naz
3rd line, JMAC, Minott, Miller/Vet, Garza

If we keep TBJ


1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller, Naz
3rd line, Nix, Minott, TBJ, Garza

I just can’t see Slowmo being worth all that, but I hope wolves get a nice return. Still think Indiana and Dallas are the teams that could use him the most though.

[BlacJacMac]

If we're not concerned about the luxury tax, how about Malcolm Brogdon?

You can get there financially with Anderson, Shake and WMJ. Add whatever draft compensation we need to bridge the value gap, then we've got a 6MOY candidate as a 1/2 guard. Probably need to sign a few buyout guys to fill out the roster although maybe we'll actually be in the mix for the good ones for a change?

Leaves us with a 9 man rotation of Conley, Ant, Jaden, KAT, Rudy, Brogdon, NAW, Reid and TBJ.

Brogden: 22.5M
SloMo, Shake, WMJ: 16.6M

You'd have to add TBJ to make it work, but now we're adding 2M to our bottom line AND we need to add more players to fill out the roster.

And I don't know why Portland would do it, unless they're getting someting really juicy from a 3rd team for Andersen.

[twolves31]

And just like that the Quickley dreams are dead for the few that wanted him.

[shangrila]

If we're not concerned about the luxury tax, how about Malcolm Brogdon?

You can get there financially with Anderson, Shake and WMJ. Add whatever draft compensation we need to bridge the value gap, then we've got a 6MOY candidate as a 1/2 guard. Probably need to sign a few buyout guys to fill out the roster although maybe we'll actually be in the mix for the good ones for a change?

Leaves us with a 9 man rotation of Conley, Ant, Jaden, KAT, Rudy, Brogdon, NAW, Reid and TBJ.

Brogden: 22.5M
SloMo, Shake, WMJ: 16.6M

You'd have to add TBJ to make it work, but now we're adding 2M to our bottom line AND we need to add more players to fill out the roster.

And I don't know why Portland would do it, unless they're getting someting really juicy from a 3rd team for Andersen.

It works according to Fanspo. And we'd obviously need to add some of our limited draft capital to get it done, although I agree that there's probably another team that would beat that offer.

[shangrila]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

If we are serious about a title run, we will acquire a starting caliber PG/ComboGuard… if Conley goes down we are ****ed

Was thinking a bit about GSW and the Curry window. He is already 35 and turning 36 in March. If any team could use a win now player and trade a young stud to get there it would be GSW. This is a number of moves and might sound nuts but,

GSW out: Podz, Kuminga, and a 2nd,
GSW in: Kyle Anderson

Wizards out: Tyus Jones
Wizards in: Shake Milton, Kuminga, GSW 2nd

Wolves out: Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton,
Wolves in: Podz and Tyus Jones

This might take our second as well.

This move adds over 3.3 million which forces more moves.

Next move is WMJ into cap space, (Could go to Washington if they want him, or else to literally anyone who does for basically nothing (maybe a distant 2nd if we can swing it.

That still doesn’t fix the cap so the next move is TBJ out for a vet Minimum PF, or send out JMAC for cap space and a pick. If I did the math right that should save just enough to convert both Nix and Garza.

1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller/Vet, Naz
3rd line, JMAC, Minott, Miller/Vet, Garza

If we keep TBJ


1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller, Naz
3rd line, Nix, Minott, TBJ, Garza

How do you spend the better part of the last few weeks complaining about Anderson and then expect to get a haul like that for him?

[shangrila]

The way our roster is constructed I truly believe that our next two season we will try to survive drafting guys in 2nd round or finding undrafted guys. It means no Tyus Jones, no MLE guys.

It is very difficult because we really need to find steals AND we might shift focus from high potential raw players to disciplined, mature players with limited talent.

Two examples: Toumani Camara and Collin Gillespie

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Let say our rotation for the next season would be:

Gobert/Towns + Garza
Towns/Reid/Camara + Miller
McDaniels/TBJ/Minott
Edwards/NAW/Moore
Conley/Gillespie/McLaughlin

If Camara and Gillespie can play their roles (energy big and spotup 3pt shooter), I dont see much concerns.

Now Connelly "just" needs to find our version of Toumani Camara and Collin Gillespie

Shouldn't be hard to find a guy to average 1.8ppg and 0.7apg in 8mpg on 40% from the floor and 25% from 3

[KGdaBom]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

I wonder what needs to be added to a pick swap heavy package (probably sent to a third team) to make this Dejounte Murray. Anderson, Milton, and TBJ can get you there money wise.

We don’t want Murray he is extremely mid and overpaid. A lot of Atlanta’s losses are because of his poor play. The game where he couldn’t miss against the Timberwolves was an aberration. He flat out is nota winning or clutch player worth 28-30 million a year.

I disagree with you that Dejounte is not a good player. I believe he is a very good player. I'm not saying we can get him, but if he were to be offered to us free no salary considerations I would take him in a heartbeat.

[KGdaBom]

And just like that the Quickley dreams are dead for the few that wanted him.

Yay.

[KGdaBom]

If we're not concerned about the luxury tax, how about Malcolm Brogdon?

You can get there financially with Anderson, Shake and WMJ. Add whatever draft compensation we need to bridge the value gap, then we've got a 6MOY candidate as a 1/2 guard. Probably need to sign a few buyout guys to fill out the roster although maybe we'll actually be in the mix for the good ones for a change?

Leaves us with a 9 man rotation of Conley, Ant, Jaden, KAT, Rudy, Brogdon, NAW, Reid and TBJ.

Of likely to be available players Brogdon is the one that stands out to me. Making the numbers work is not my thing. I bet Connelly isn't really the numbers guy. I bet he has staff that handles that part.

[KGdaBom]

Let's pretend Arod and Lore tomorrow said screw the luxury tax and future ramifications lets trade for a player that puts us over the edge for a championship this season. If that is the case, do you think we would aim higher than a player like Tyus and who would that be? I'm talking legit player that they may even add Naz's contract to match the size of the contract coming back.

If we are serious about a title run, we will acquire a starting caliber PG/ComboGuard… if Conley goes down we are ****ed

Was thinking a bit about GSW and the Curry window. He is already 35 and turning 36 in March. If any team could use a win now player and trade a young stud to get there it would be GSW. This is a number of moves and might sound nuts but,

GSW out: Podz, Kuminga, and a 2nd,
GSW in: Kyle Anderson

Wizards out: Tyus Jones
Wizards in: Shake Milton, Kuminga, GSW 2nd

Wolves out: Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton,
Wolves in: Podz and Tyus Jones

This might take our second as well.

This move adds over 3.3 million which forces more moves.

Next move is WMJ into cap space, (Could go to Washington if they want him, or else to literally anyone who does for basically nothing (maybe a distant 2nd if we can swing it.

That still doesn’t fix the cap so the next move is TBJ out for a vet Minimum PF, or send out JMAC for cap space and a pick. If I did the math right that should save just enough to convert both Nix and Garza.

1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller/Vet, Naz
3rd line, JMAC, Minott, Miller/Vet, Garza

If we keep TBJ


1st line is Conley, Ant, MCD, KAT, Rudy
2nd line Tyus, Podz, NAW, Miller, Naz
3rd line, Nix, Minott, TBJ, Garza

I would love to get Podz and Tyus for Kyle and Shake. I don't give that a snowballs chance in hell of happening.

[KGdaBom]

The way our roster is constructed I truly believe that our next two season we will try to survive drafting guys in 2nd round or finding undrafted guys. It means no Tyus Jones, no MLE guys.

It is very difficult because we really need to find steals AND we might shift focus from high potential raw players to disciplined, mature players with limited talent.

Two examples: Toumani Camara and Collin Gillespie

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Let say our rotation for the next season would be:

Gobert/Towns + Garza
Towns/Reid/Camara + Miller
McDaniels/TBJ/Minott
Edwards/NAW/Moore
Conley/Gillespie/McLaughlin

If Camara and Gillespie can play their roles (energy big and spotup 3pt shooter), I dont see much concerns.

Now Connelly "just" needs to find our version of Toumani Camara and Collin Gillespie

I'd rather have Miller than Camara. I'd rather have somebody other than Gillespie.

[minimus]

we might need to shift focus from high potential raw players to disciplined, mature players with limited talent

I'd rather have Miller than Camara.

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