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2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

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Who should Minnesota Pick at #1 (Assuming Minnesota keeps the pick)?

Anthony Edwards
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42%
LaMelo Ball
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22%
James Wiseman
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35%
 
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#921 » by Baseline81 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:50 am

UnFadeable21 wrote:Lamelo avg 17/7/7 though and won the rookies of the year in the NBL.

He’s a much better scorer than Ricky was at this point.

The 7 rebounds and assists are certainly eye catching for a PG, but if you dig deeper into the 17 points, you'll see how inefficient and poor of a shooter he was. Yes, he's not as gun shy as Rubio, but with those percentages, does it matter?

During his rookie season, the defense is likely to sag off Ball until he can consistently penalize them.
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Post#922 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:54 am

Neeva wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Malik Beasley's arrest definitely increases the chances of Anthony Edwards being our #1 pick.


I have pretty much accepted Edwards will be the pick and he is growing on me.

There's a possibility he won't suck. There's a slim possibility he will be very good.
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Post#923 » by Baseline81 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:59 am

UnFadeable21,

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Post#924 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:11 am

UnFadeable21 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:No, the deal breaker for me is low iq; low effort from Edwards.

Already went through Wiggins, trying to root for him to change after 6 years. Don’t want to go through it again.

Understandable

For me, I'd rather not go through the Rubio era again in a league that requires a scoring PG.


Lamelo avg 17/7/7 though and won the rookies of the year in the NBL.

He’s a much better scorer than Ricky was at this point.

Anybody who takes a bunch of shots can score. Problem is with Ball you want him to take as few shots as possible.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#925 » by jpatrick » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:13 am

Baseline81 wrote:UnFadeable21,

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Most important thing from combine is measurements and interviews. I do like that Ball is going to at least go through those portions. Will Edwards and Wiseman be allowed to conduct individual interviews, workouts, and/or measurements privately with the teams at the top?
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Post#926 » by Baseline81 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:14 am

jpatrick wrote:Most important thing from combine is measurements and interviews. I do like that Ball is going to at least go through those portions. Will Edwards and Wiseman be allowed to conduct individual interviews, workouts, and/or measurements privately with the teams at the top?

If Woo is correct, it doesn't sound as if Ball will go through the measurements but only interviews.
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Post#927 » by Slim Tubby » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:19 am

Neeva wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Malik Beasley's arrest definitely increases the chances of Anthony Edwards being our #1 pick.


I have pretty much accepted Edwards will be the pick and he is growing on me.

They call that a wart.


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#928 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:32 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
Neeva wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Malik Beasley's arrest definitely increases the chances of Anthony Edwards being our #1 pick.


I have pretty much accepted Edwards will be the pick and he is growing on me.

They call that a wart.


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Post#929 » by UnFadeable21 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:13 am

Baseline81 wrote:UnFadeable21,

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No. I want to see if he is really 6’7 and him doing interview with teams are great as the Wolves will be there.
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Post#930 » by minimus » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:54 am

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Post#931 » by theGreatRC » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:18 am

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I hope he doesn't go lotto. IDC who we take #1 if we can get Maxey at #17, but I think he goes 13 at worst.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#932 » by Klomp » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:35 am

Baseline81 wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:Lamelo avg 17/7/7 though and won the rookies of the year in the NBL.

He’s a much better scorer than Ricky was at this point.

The 7 rebounds and assists are certainly eye catching for a PG, but if you dig deeper into the 17 points, you'll see how inefficient and poor of a shooter he was. Yes, he's not as gun shy as Rubio, but with those percentages, does it matter?

During his rookie season, the defense is likely to sag off Ball until he can consistently penalize them.

You said you want a SCORING point guard. Ball can SCORE. Is he as efficient as you'd like him to be? No, but I'd rather have someone you need to reign in than someone you need to tune up.

The scoring comparison to Rubio is ridiculous. At 19, Rubio was terrified of taking open jumpers. That hurts your offense more than taking and missing.
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Post#933 » by Klomp » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:38 am

theGreatRC wrote:I hope he doesn't go lotto. IDC who we take #1 if we can get Maxey at #17, but I think he goes 13 at worst.

Just looking at things, at least one of Maxey, Terry, Hampton, Anthony or Lewis will almost assuredly be there at 17. And even if not, one of the forwards like Williams, Pokusevski or SBey should be. I would be pleased with any of the above at the pick.
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Post#934 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:16 pm

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Post#935 » by Baseline81 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:18 pm

Klomp wrote:You said you want a SCORING point guard. Ball can SCORE. Is he as efficient as you'd like him to be? No, but I'd rather have someone you need to reign in than someone you need to tune up.

The scoring comparison to Rubio is ridiculous. At 19, Rubio was terrified of taking open jumpers. That hurts your offense more than taking and missing.

I could have worded it better instead of assuming most would understand the difference between an efficient and inefficient scoring PG.

I am not sure if being terrified of taking open jumpers hurts you more than having someone constantly shoot and miss. In the latter scenario, those shots would be better taken by other players on the floor. Again, much like what happened to Lonzo, teams are simply going to allow LaMelo to shoot, which he will. If his percentages are as poor as there were overseas...
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#936 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:19 pm

Klomp wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:Lamelo avg 17/7/7 though and won the rookies of the year in the NBL.

He’s a much better scorer than Ricky was at this point.

The 7 rebounds and assists are certainly eye catching for a PG, but if you dig deeper into the 17 points, you'll see how inefficient and poor of a shooter he was. Yes, he's not as gun shy as Rubio, but with those percentages, does it matter?

During his rookie season, the defense is likely to sag off Ball until he can consistently penalize them.

You said you want a SCORING point guard. Ball can SCORE. Is he as efficient as you'd like him to be? No, but I'd rather have someone you need to reign in than someone you need to tune up.

The scoring comparison to Rubio is ridiculous. At 19, Rubio was terrified of taking open jumpers. That hurts your offense more than taking and missing.

I disagree jacking up many 3s a game at 25% is going to hurt your offense more than a very good passer finding somebody else to take them. If we had Ball I would only want him taking wide open layups. Leave the shooting to those who can actually make them.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#937 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:21 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Klomp wrote:You said you want a SCORING point guard. Ball can SCORE. Is he as efficient as you'd like him to be? No, but I'd rather have someone you need to reign in than someone you need to tune up.

The scoring comparison to Rubio is ridiculous. At 19, Rubio was terrified of taking open jumpers. That hurts your offense more than taking and missing.

I could have worded it better instead of assuming most would understand the difference between an efficient and inefficient scoring PG.

I am not sure if being terrified of taking open jumpers hurts you more than having someone constantly shoot and miss. In the latter scenario, those shots would be better taken by other players on the floor. Again, much like what happened to Lonzo, teams are simply going to allow LaMelo to shoot, which he will. If his percentages are as poor as there were overseas...

We are thinking very similarly on this. If we IMO waste #1 overall on Ball I would still rather have him taking very few shots.
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Post#938 » by _AIJ_ » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:46 pm

I really hope maxey falls at 17. He'll be the starting 2guard as soon as year 2
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#939 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:24 pm

_AIJ_ wrote:I really hope maxey falls at 17. He'll be the starting 2guard as soon as year 2

Over Edwards and Beasley??
Time will tell.
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Post#940 » by _AIJ_ » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:56 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
_AIJ_ wrote:I really hope maxey falls at 17. He'll be the starting 2guard as soon as year 2

Over Edwards and Beasley??
Time will tell.

Was thinking if we dont draft edwards or ball with the first pick


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