[Krawczynski] Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore in serious talks to become the next owners of the Minnesota Timberwolves

[KGdaBom]

It's absolutely lowering it based on the current payroll for next year. I thought that was pretty clear, but I guess not? But right now they sit at $191 with a projected $198M. That's a $20-30M cut. Pretty significant since it costs them a significant player or two.

I think everyone knew that changes would be made this summer. I think it's foolish to think otherwise.

Taylor doesn't even commit to paying the luxury tax by sending Woj this info. He's just trying to burn his supposed partners by releasing this.

And his timing couldn't be worse, and it comes in pure Minnesotan "yeah but" fashion. Yeah we're playing for the No. 1 seed, but there might be financial moves made this summer".

No, the expectation was that Minnesota would roll forward a season and then deal with the implications of being a Repeater-Tax team the season after (that is why not trading Wendell Moore Jr. into cap space was brain dead by Minnesota's front office). Obviously if Minnesota tanked in the First Round, that would adjust course, but the plan was never to dodge the Luxury-Tax next season; that would be ludicrous.

In reality, this situation might be ideal, given that Glen Taylor is now financially incentivized to drive up massive Luxury-Tax payments to force the broke duo into selling their shares.

I like the way you think.

[Movics]

That’s just one side of the story. I don’t think they would’ve pushed for the Gobert trade. We have amazing players on very team friendly contracts. Only player that could be traded to save money is McDaniels imo whixh would be a mistake. Just cough up the dough or don’t aspire to own a competitive NBA team that is at their brightest moment of their history. There was also a good a twitter thread explaining why the tax money could be looked at as an investment. Taylor is just being a **** again leaking this information

Lore and A Rod have been going hard trying to win the PR battle with leaked information. So Glen doing it doesn't make him any more of a **** than what they have been doing.

The leaks coming from the Lore and ARod were that they submitted the required paperwork to the NBA or whatever entity they had to before the deadline. Taylor’s leaks are more damaging to the organization and the players themselves. Oh, we’re going for a pay cut? Who’s getting traded in the summer? It’s a tight group, what Taylor leaked could harm the chemistry

[BlacJacMac]

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I'm not buying that they would set up the gobert trade knowing they it would put them in the luxury tax then they would pull the rug out.

Unless the Gobert trade was really to replace KAT, not play alongside him?

[Klomp]

This proves beyond doubt that A and L don’t give a **** about the fans or the team. If they did they wouldn’t have put us in the situation we are in financially, only to turn around and sabotage us.

The other true Minnesota mentality: Better to remain a consistently losing franchise than to turn us into a winner even if only for a short time

[winforlose]

That’s just one side of the story. I don’t think they would’ve pushed for the Gobert trade. We have amazing players on very team friendly contracts. Only player that could be traded to save money is McDaniels imo whixh would be a mistake. Just cough up the dough or don’t aspire to own a competitive NBA team that is at their brightest moment of their history. There was also a good a twitter thread explaining why the tax money could be looked at as an investment. Taylor is just being a **** again leaking this information

Lore and A Rod have been going hard trying to win the PR battle with leaked information. So Glen doing it doesn't make him any more of a **** than what they have been doing.

The leaks coming from the Lore and ARod were that they submitted to required paperwork to the NBA or whatever entity they had to. Taylor’s leaks are more damaging to the organization and the players themselves. Oh, we’re going for a pay cut? Who’s getting traded in the summer? It’s a tight group, what Taylor leaked could harm the chemistry

This is my concern as well. But, when A and L say they are protecting the franchise and the fans from Glen, he is doing the same to them. What we need is the status quo. Glen’s money and A and L management.

[KGdaBom]

That’s just one side of the story. I don’t think they would’ve pushed for the Gobert trade. We have amazing players on very team friendly contracts. Only player that could be traded to save money is McDaniels imo whixh would be a mistake. Just cough up the dough or don’t aspire to own a competitive NBA team that is at their brightest moment of their history. There was also a good a twitter thread explaining why the tax money could be looked at as an investment. Taylor is just being a **** again leaking this information

Lore and A Rod have been going hard trying to win the PR battle with leaked information. So Glen doing it doesn't make him any more of a **** than what they have been doing.

The leaks coming from the Lore and ARod were that they submitted to required paperwork to the NBA or whatever entity they had to. Taylor’s leaks are more damaging to the organization and the players themselves. Oh, we’re going for a pay cut? Who’s getting traded in the summer? It’s a tight group, what Taylor leaked could harm the chemistry

The Leaks from Lore and A Rod were how they were the smart ones responsible for every good move the Wolves have made. Nothing to do with the paperwork etc....I don't consider them showing their case for filing the paperwork leaks. 100% fine.

[Klomp]

That’s just one side of the story. I don’t think they would’ve pushed for the Gobert trade. We have amazing players on very team friendly contracts. Only player that could be traded to save money is McDaniels imo whixh would be a mistake. Just cough up the dough or don’t aspire to own a competitive NBA team that is at their brightest moment of their history. There was also a good a twitter thread explaining why the tax money could be looked at as an investment. Taylor is just being a **** again leaking this information

Lore and A Rod have been going hard trying to win the PR battle with leaked information. So Glen doing it doesn't make him any more of a **** than what they have been doing.

The leaks coming from the Lore and ARod were that they submitted to required paperwork to the NBA or whatever entity they had to. Taylor’s leaks are more damaging to the organization and the players themselves. Oh, we’re going for a pay cut? Who’s getting traded in the summer? It’s a tight group, what Taylor leaked could harm the chemistry

Bingo. People say that the players ignore these things, but that's absolutely something that affects the players. Now pending free agents Kyle Anderson, Jordan McLaughlin and Monte Morris might be thinking about having to uproot their families rather than having 100% focus on the biggest game of the season. Coaches are thinking about their futures in game plan meetings.

[KGdaBom]

Maybe Glen/Lore/A Rod are being diabolical geniuses working together to make the team unite against them.

[KGdaBom]

That's what he wants you to think.

But again, we go back to the whole issue at hand. Glen's original claim was that Lore and Rodriguez missed benchmarks of the sale along the way. Today's news does not validate that claim. It does nothing. but sling mud hours before probably the biggest game the franchise has played since 2017 Game 82.

You are correct. What good does this leak do. What good does the Lore/ARod leaks do? This should be worked out behind the scenes. Not in the media. Both parties IMO are fighting dirty. Objectivity please. I don't think that is possible for you. Prove me wrong please.

Lore and Rodriguez had a right to defend themselves after the character assassination Taylor was attempting.

If the name was Kevin Garnett and not Alex Rodriguez, but all of the other facts of the situation were the same, I think people would be looking at this differently.

Klomp I don't believe I have seen one objective post from you in this entire fiasco. I normally give great weight to your opinions, but I feel in this matter I have to just about ignore everything you have to say. I'll hang in there with you for now and consider your posts.

[Klomp]

I also question the validity of this "financial projection" when the most recent move made was to extend Mike Conley. You don't do that if you are slashing payroll.

[Klomp]

Klomp I don't believe I have seen one objective post from you in this entire fiasco. I normally give great weight to your opinions, but I feel in this matter I have to just about ignore everything you have to say. I'll hang in there with you for now and consider your posts.

Objective = taking Taylor's side?

[Movics]

Lore and A Rod have been going hard trying to win the PR battle with leaked information. So Glen doing it doesn't make him any more of a **** than what they have been doing.

The leaks coming from the Lore and ARod were that they submitted to required paperwork to the NBA or whatever entity they had to. Taylor’s leaks are more damaging to the organization and the players themselves. Oh, we’re going for a pay cut? Who’s getting traded in the summer? It’s a tight group, what Taylor leaked could harm the chemistry

The Leaks from Lore and A Rod were how they were the smart ones responsible for every good move the Wolves have made. Nothing to do with the paperwork etc....I don't consider them showing their case for filing the paperwork leaks. 100% fine.

Leaks that were apparently true. “People like Tim Conally don’t come to Minnesota.” That’s why you need someone in the ownership who knows how a top tier organization is run even if it’s baseball. Arod and Lore were absolutely the “culture” change the team needed. A proved winner that even the players can look up to. Wish they had a few billions more…

[TimberKat]

Hilarious part of the Woj tweet: "would've lowered team's payroll to $171M"

This year's payroll is $164M, so that wouldn't actually be lowering it at all. This isn't a cap-slashing like the Twins did this winter.

It’s worse. The Twins are a minor league team that has to do so much more with so much less. The Wolves are a legit contender now! To say no lux after they designed the thing to be in the lux is just insane. Worse, this means they plan to dump Karl and he just found out right before the playoffs. This whole thing is a clown car full bullshi* and and asshol*s.

The Twins cap slashing came on the heels of the Twins' best postseason in 20 years.

Yes and that sucks so I am not watching them anymore. Go Dodgers.

[KGdaBom]

Klomp I don't believe I have seen one objective post from you in this entire fiasco. I normally give great weight to your opinions, but I feel in this matter I have to just about ignore everything you have to say. I'll hang in there with you for now and consider your posts.

Objective = taking Taylor's side?

At least one out of a hundred times seeing his side might have merit. You automatically spin everything into Glen is evil and he sucks. I've noted times where I see A Rod and Lore might have a point.

[KGdaBom]

The leaks coming from the Lore and ARod were that they submitted to required paperwork to the NBA or whatever entity they had to. Taylor’s leaks are more damaging to the organization and the players themselves. Oh, we’re going for a pay cut? Who’s getting traded in the summer? It’s a tight group, what Taylor leaked could harm the chemistry

The Leaks from Lore and A Rod were how they were the smart ones responsible for every good move the Wolves have made. Nothing to do with the paperwork etc....I don't consider them showing their case for filing the paperwork leaks. 100% fine.

Leaks that were apparently true. “People like Tim Conally don’t come to Minnesota.” That’s why you need someone in the ownership who knows how a top tier organization is run even if it’s baseball. Arod and Lore were absolutely the “culture” change the team needed. A proved winner that even the players can look up to. Wish they had a few billions more…

They are not proven winners. They are not people to look up to. Maybe it's true that they were the driving force behind hiring Connelly. Just a year ago many were considering Connelly a massive failure. I didn't hear them talking about how the hiring was all about them then. Keep that stuff out of the public eye. Nothing positive will come from it.
Today's leak from Glen is probably true. He has documentation. What good does leaking it do? Nothing positive will come from it.

[Klomp]

Klomp I don't believe I have seen one objective post from you in this entire fiasco. I normally give great weight to your opinions, but I feel in this matter I have to just about ignore everything you have to say. I'll hang in there with you for now and consider your posts.

Objective = taking Taylor's side?

At least one out of a hundred times seeing his side might have merit. You automatically spin everything into Glen is evil and he sucks. I've noted times where I see A Rod and Lore might have a point.

There are multiple examples for your choosing on page 32 of this thread.

[shrink]

- I find it hard to believe that Glen Taylor (of all people) control what Woj leaks. This is big news - Woj is going to release it.

- Moreover, this leak is what Lore and ARod presented to NBA Board of Governors for their financial plan. Not just to Taylor.

- Yes, we don’t know if Taylor will pay the lux. He has in the past, for far worse Wolves teams. But ARod and Lore are saying (not Taylor) their plan is to cut costs immediately. And this isn’t just to get under the second apron. This is to get under the LUX.

- As I’ve said, I think it makes sense for either side to pay next season, get MIN a winning team that makes even average NBA revenues. The fact that this is their plan seems to me to be further evidence that they simply don’t have the money to do so.

[KGdaBom]

Objective = taking Taylor's side?

At least one out of a hundred times seeing his side might have merit. You automatically spin everything into Glen is evil and he sucks. I've noted times where I see A Rod and Lore might have a point.

There are multiple examples for your choosing on page 32 of this thread.

Thanks. I will go back and examine that page.

[TimberKat]

If I put a positive spin on this BS news, it's Taylor is willing to paid tax to keep the team competitive. It forces ARod and company to make the same statement. Now we are all good for next year.

[Movics]

The Leaks from Lore and A Rod were how they were the smart ones responsible for every good move the Wolves have made. Nothing to do with the paperwork etc....I don't consider them showing their case for filing the paperwork leaks. 100% fine.

Leaks that were apparently true. “People like Tim Conally don’t come to Minnesota.” That’s why you need someone in the ownership who knows how a top tier organization is run even if it’s baseball. Arod and Lore were absolutely the “culture” change the team needed. A proved winner that even the players can look up to. Wish they had a few billions more…

They are not proven winners. They are not people to look up to. Maybe it's true that they were the driving force behind hiring Connelly. Just a year ago many were considering Connelly a massive failure. I didn't hear them talking about how the hiring was all about them then. Keep that stuff out of the public eye. Nothing positive will come from it.
Today's leak from Glen is probably true. He has documentation. What good does leaking it do? Nothing positive will come from it.

I’d consider ARod a proven winner as a player. He was also part of one of the most well run baseball organizations and became a successful businessman.
I don’t think Connelly was ever considered a failure, but let’s agree to disagree on that.
I have to agree, any of these leaks are not good. Keep it behind closed doors, but as someone who wants change and sees the new owners as great successors to a historically proven bad owner, I consider the new guys’s side much more believable