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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#921 » by winforlose » Wed Dec 4, 2024 8:52 pm

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Klomp wrote:More proof that shows Ant is absolutely not a leader.

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Exactly right. I am gonna choose to ignore the sarcasm and say it plain this proves Ant is not a leader. If you are gonna do this, don’t have the coach act as your PR guy and make it public. At most have it off the record and let a podcaster slide it in later as a rumor. Leaders don’t need to brag about stuff like this in the press. Do you think Mike does similar stuff? Of course he does. Does he need flowers for it? Of course not. Ant will always say the right thing or put on a goofy grin for the camera. But, when it matters he will get in the wrong guys face, or stop passing, or publicly shame the team for his failures.

You believe Ant "will get in the wrong guys face" (no doubt a reference to the Toronto game), but I would argue that Gobert has played his best basketball of the season since the exchange. And interestingly enough, he has dropped his FGAs by 1.5 per game in that stretch. Everyone knows offense is not his strength, yet people going back to Utah have tried to placate him. I'd say that Ant getting in Rudy's face might actually be what Gobert needed to hear most, yet people have always been afraid to say it.


Randle is a toxic clown through 20 games and your solution is to yell at Rudy. Ant telling Randle that the entire WCF finalist Wolves will make things work to Randle’s style and not the other way around is true leadership? Ant is trying to be like Karl with Rudy, the difference is Rudy is a generational defensive talent, and Randle is an overrated, over celebrated, *** hole. Ant should have been trying to get Randle to play to our identity, not tell the locker room we need to adjust to Randle’s.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#922 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 4, 2024 8:58 pm

winforlose wrote:Ant should have been trying to get Randle to play to our identity, not tell the locker room we need to adjust to Randle’s.

I will agree that this was likely a miscalculation, but it seems to have tapered off in the last week or so.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#923 » by winforlose » Wed Dec 4, 2024 9:11 pm

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winforlose wrote:Ant should have been trying to get Randle to play to our identity, not tell the locker room we need to adjust to Randle’s.

I will agree that this was likely a miscalculation, but it seems to have tapered off in the last week or so.


I love how we are back to semantics. Call a spade a spade. It was a failure of leadership. Ant has a lot of those this season. My favorite being his admitting that he doesn’t listen to the coach on offense or defense and yet he says his teammates are playing for themselves and not the team. Ant is not leading and that is why the best basketball is played without him.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#924 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Thu Dec 5, 2024 12:06 am

For me i don't give a dam s....about what ANT is doing or what his personal team is posting on social media. I'm looking on his production on the field and at that stage, he is not the superstar he want to be. Question of maturity no doubt but he got work to do.
It's pretty surprising that lots of games we play well, he is not in our best line-up. It's also not acceptable if you want to be a star to sit more than half of the 4 th every game just because your teammates are better than you. Finch is perfectly right to sit him and Randle.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#925 » by Klomp » Thu Dec 5, 2024 4:53 am

Anthony Edwards has made 38 of his last 110 field goals (.345) over the past 5.5 games (as of halftime against Clippers)
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#926 » by shrink » Thu Dec 5, 2024 5:27 am

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:More proof that shows Ant is absolutely not a leader.

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Exactly right. I am gonna choose to ignore the sarcasm and say it plain this proves Ant is not a leader. If you are gonna do this, don’t have the coach act as your PR guy and make it public. At most have it off the record and let a podcaster slide it in later as a rumor. Leaders don’t need to brag about stuff like this in the press. Do you think Mike does similar stuff? Of course he does. Does he need flowers for it? Of course not. Ant will always say the right thing or put on a goofy grin for the camera. But, when it matters he will get in the wrong guys face, or stop passing, or publicly shame the team for his failures.

This seems an oddly negative response for Ant doing a good thing.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#927 » by winforlose » Thu Dec 5, 2024 9:17 am

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Klomp wrote:More proof that shows Ant is absolutely not a leader.

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Exactly right. I am gonna choose to ignore the sarcasm and say it plain this proves Ant is not a leader. If you are gonna do this, don’t have the coach act as your PR guy and make it public. At most have it off the record and let a podcaster slide it in later as a rumor. Leaders don’t need to brag about stuff like this in the press. Do you think Mike does similar stuff? Of course he does. Does he need flowers for it? Of course not. Ant will always say the right thing or put on a goofy grin for the camera. But, when it matters he will get in the wrong guys face, or stop passing, or publicly shame the team for his failures.

This seems an oddly negative response for Ant doing a good thing.


I agree. I just wish for once Ant would do some of the good things without needing the praise. Sometimes the good deed is its own reward. But yes, it was an oddly and perhaps overly negative thing for me to say. Probably reflects how badly I am doing these days.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#928 » by TimberKat » Thu Dec 5, 2024 2:06 pm

winforlose wrote:
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Exactly right. I am gonna choose to ignore the sarcasm and say it plain this proves Ant is not a leader. If you are gonna do this, don’t have the coach act as your PR guy and make it public. At most have it off the record and let a podcaster slide it in later as a rumor. Leaders don’t need to brag about stuff like this in the press. Do you think Mike does similar stuff? Of course he does. Does he need flowers for it? Of course not. Ant will always say the right thing or put on a goofy grin for the camera. But, when it matters he will get in the wrong guys face, or stop passing, or publicly shame the team for his failures.

This seems an oddly negative response for Ant doing a good thing.


I agree. I just wish for once Ant would do some of the good things without needing the praise. Sometimes the good deed is its own reward. But yes, it was an oddly and perhaps overly negative thing for me to say. Probably reflects how badly I am doing these days.

Hope you feel better soon and hope the Wolves bring a little joy to your life.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#929 » by BlacJacMac » Sat Dec 7, 2024 11:18 pm

Is this a leader-ish enough quote from Ant?

"People don’t understand how much I love to pass it to my teammates and they get a dunk or hit the shot,” Edwards said. “Because, if I hit a shot, I’m super happy. So I know if they hit a shot, they’re super happy, and I’m super happy for them.”
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#930 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Sun Dec 8, 2024 12:22 am

ANT improve step by step. People forget how young he is. MJ need many years before he become the leader he was. Mitchell at Cavs is not the same he was in Utah, much more team oriented.....we are in an ERA where people want all now..... we have to be patient. As long as ANT improve, im confident he will be the superstar he got the potential for. Step by Step...
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#931 » by winforlose » Sun Dec 8, 2024 2:05 am

Ant trying to compliment Randle but accidentally said something pretty awful and hilarious.

“ Anthony Edwards impressed with Julius Randle: 'I've never seen him play defense before'


Chris Hine: Anthony Edwards, with Julius Randle sitting next to him: “Naz and Julius is ****’ playing defense. You know, I’ve never see [Julius] play defense before. That’s **** incredible, and he’s right here, put the camera on him. He be guarding his ass off.” (Randle was laughing) 16 hours ago – via Bluesky”

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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#932 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:39 pm

winforlose wrote:Ant trying to compliment Randle but accidentally said something pretty awful and hilarious.

“ Anthony Edwards impressed with Julius Randle: 'I've never seen him play defense before'


Chris Hine: Anthony Edwards, with Julius Randle sitting next to him: “Naz and Julius is ****’ playing defense. You know, I’ve never see [Julius] play defense before. That’s **** incredible, and he’s right here, put the camera on him. He be guarding his ass off.” (Randle was laughing) 16 hours ago – via Bluesky”

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That's not awful at all.

He's able to point out flaws and deficiencies and areas for growth while doing it in a way that's not making that guy hate his guts. That's not easy to do, and is a pretty enviable quality of a leader actually.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#933 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:39 pm

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When asked about Anthony Edwards's crunch time decision-making this season, Finch said they went through the film of all of Ant's crunch time decision-making, and graded out that Edwards has made the right decision on 80% of those possessions.

Later in the interview, Finch said that is up from closer to 50% last season.
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Post#934 » by winforlose » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:53 pm

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When asked about Anthony Edwards's crunch time decision-making this season, Finch said they went through the film of all of Ant's crunch time decision-making, and graded out that Edwards has made the right decision on 80% of those possessions.

Later in the interview, Finch said that is up from closer to 50% last season.


1. I believe Finch said this

2. I believe Finch believes this.

3. I believe this is grounds for dismissal.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#935 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:02 am

Finch can't say another thing. Coming to an ITW and saying ANT s... at crunch time and keep the ball way to long... and he lose his job as soon as we lose cpl of games...That's how it works when you give the key to one player. When KAT was still there there was some kind of balance but now clearly this is ANT team. For the good of not, time will tell...
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Post#936 » by Baseline81 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:08 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Finch can't say another thing. Coming to an ITW and saying ANT s... at crunch time and keep the ball way to long... and he lose his job as soon as we lose cpl of games...That's how it works when you give the key to one player. When KAT was still there there was some kind of balance but now clearly this is ANT team. For the good of not, time will tell...

Reason number 127 as to why the Towns trade should never have happened.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#937 » by TimberKat » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:33 am

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FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Finch can't say another thing. Coming to an ITW and saying ANT s... at crunch time and keep the ball way to long... and he lose his job as soon as we lose cpl of games...That's how it works when you give the key to one player. When KAT was still there there was some kind of balance but now clearly this is ANT team. For the good of not, time will tell...

Reason number 127 as to why the Towns trade should never have happened.

It is not good for sure. Can't win with Ant alone and he plays like he is alone.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#938 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:04 am

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FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Finch can't say another thing. Coming to an ITW and saying ANT s... at crunch time and keep the ball way to long... and he lose his job as soon as we lose cpl of games...That's how it works when you give the key to one player. When KAT was still there there was some kind of balance but now clearly this is ANT team. For the good of not, time will tell...

Reason number 127 as to why the Towns trade should never have happened.


I understand your point of view. On the other hand, was KAT the piece who will allowed us to win a title? Probably not. What is frustrating is what we got for KAT trade, not the fact of trading KAT. We would have trade KAT for Markkanen or another good player, things would have been different. Randle is clearly far from KAT production specially in defense and DDV have too many up and down.
Hopefully TC fix it before the deadline.
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Re: Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post) 

Post#939 » by Baseline81 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:40 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote: I understand your point of view. On the other hand, was KAT the piece who will allowed us to win a title? Probably not. What is frustrating is what we got for KAT trade, not the fact of trading KAT. We would have trade KAT for Markkanen or another good player, things would have been different. Randle is clearly far from KAT production specially in defense and DDV have too many up and down.
Hopefully TC fix it before the deadline.

To me, it's a combination of the two.

To this day, I'm befuddled as to why the team wasn't given the chance to run it back. Even if the first half of the season didn't go as planned, that trade with New York is very likely to be on the table at the deadline.

But yes, the inclusion of Randle soured the deal from the jump.
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Post#940 » by Klomp » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:41 am

Baseline81 wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote: I understand your point of view. On the other hand, was KAT the piece who will allowed us to win a title? Probably not. What is frustrating is what we got for KAT trade, not the fact of trading KAT. We would have trade KAT for Markkanen or another good player, things would have been different. Randle is clearly far from KAT production specially in defense and DDV have too many up and down.
Hopefully TC fix it before the deadline.

To me, it's a combination of the two.

To this day, I'm befuddled as to why the team wasn't given the chance to run it back. Even if the first half of the season didn't go as planned, that trade with New York is very likely to be on the table at the deadline.

But yes, the inclusion of Randle soured the deal from the jump.

The Knicks only upped their offer because of the Robinson injury. If he is healthy, the trade is off the table.
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