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Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!)

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#941 » by Colbinii » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:19 pm

Note30 wrote:You don't trade Towns unless you get better. Plain and simple, if you wanted to trade him the time was two years ago before we acquired Goberts bloated ass contract.


Gobert will be making less than Towns and is more impactful than Towns.

Try again to see who has the "bloated ass contract" :lol:
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#942 » by Note30 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:21 pm

MIN Out: Towns, #27, #37, 2028 1st swap rights
MIN In: Bridges, Murray

Atlanta In: Towns, DFS
Atlanta Out: Murray, Capela, ATL 1st, Johnson

Nets In: Johnson, Capela, #27, #37, 2028 1st Swap
Nets Out: Bridges, DFS


Wolves lineup post trade with Anderson resigned

Murray/Conley
Edwards/NAW
Bridges/McDaniels
Reid/Anderson
Gobert
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#943 » by Note30 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:22 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Note30 wrote:You don't trade Towns unless you get better. Plain and simple, if you wanted to trade him the time was two years ago before we acquired Goberts bloated ass contract.


Gobert will be making less than Towns and is more impactful than Towns.

Try again to see who has the "bloated ass contract" :lol:



The only difference between last year and this year was Towns. How did we do in those respective years? Oh right.

One dimensional ass center who can't even catch the ball on offense supposed to be better than Towns.

DPOY who got manhandled by a rookie center and a player traded for a 1st round pick. DPOY who relied on another center to guard Jokic the majority of the time.

GTFO. We had a better record with Towns Vando than we did with Gobert Anderson.

If you actually think Gobert is better than Towns in terms of basketball you aren't fit to comment on basketball.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#944 » by Colbinii » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:24 pm

Note30 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Note30 wrote:You don't trade Towns unless you get better. Plain and simple, if you wanted to trade him the time was two years ago before we acquired Goberts bloated ass contract.


Gobert will be making less than Towns and is more impactful than Towns.

Try again to see who has the "bloated ass contract" :lol:



The only difference between last year and this year was Towns. How did we do in those respective years? Oh right.


It wasn't acquiring Conley for a full season?
It wasn't Gobert being fully healthy?
It wasn't Edwards making massive improvements?
It wasn't NAW making 3's and developing?
It wasn't Naz Reid going from a 34% 3P shooter to 41%?

None of these were different?

Did you guys watch the Wolves this year? They played with a chip on their shoulder. They actually put in full effort on the defensive end. I don't think Towns has ever led a defensive-first team in his career sans Kentucky.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#945 » by Colbinii » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:27 pm

The best player on 4 50-win teams [and a 49-win team and 48 win-team] is a bloated contract, but Karl-Anthony Towns isn't? I don't think you guys really understand what you are trying to argue here.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#946 » by Note30 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:29 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Gobert will be making less than Towns and is more impactful than Towns.

Try again to see who has the "bloated ass contract" :lol:



The only difference between last year and this year was Towns. How did we do in those respective years? Oh right.


It wasn't acquiring Conley for a full season?
It wasn't Gobert being fully healthy?
It wasn't Edwards making massive improvements?
It wasn't NAW making 3's and developing?
It wasn't Naz Reid going from a 34% 3P shooter to 41%?

None of these were different?

Did you guys watch the Wolves this year? They played with a chip on their shoulder. They actually put in full effort on the defensive end. I don't think Towns has ever led a defensive-first team in his career sans Kentucky.



KAT had DLo and ran a 46 win record the year before. So that's garbage argument about Conley, he makes the whole team better.

Gobert was fine. And if he was that injured he should have sat.

Statistically Ant didn't get a whole lot better.

NAW played like 15 minutes a game.

Reid is your only real argument and even then he also played limited minutes.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#947 » by Note30 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:29 pm

Colbinii wrote:The best player on 4 50-win teams [and a 49-win team and 48 win-team] is a bloated contract, but Karl-Anthony Towns isn't? I don't think you guys really understand what you are trying to argue here.


Bro forgot Anthony Edwards and Donovan Mitchell.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#948 » by Colbinii » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:32 pm

Note30 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Note30 wrote:

The only difference between last year and this year was Towns. How did we do in those respective years? Oh right.


It wasn't acquiring Conley for a full season?
It wasn't Gobert being fully healthy?
It wasn't Edwards making massive improvements?
It wasn't NAW making 3's and developing?
It wasn't Naz Reid going from a 34% 3P shooter to 41%?

None of these were different?

Did you guys watch the Wolves this year? They played with a chip on their shoulder. They actually put in full effort on the defensive end. I don't think Towns has ever led a defensive-first team in his career sans Kentucky.



KAT had DLo and ran a 46 win record the year before. So that's garbage argument about Conley, he makes the whole team better.


See my comment above. Gobert has anchored a handful of 50+ win teams in his prime.

Gobert was fine. And if he was that injured he should have sat.


No, players play through injuries all the time.

Statistically Ant didn't get a whole lot better.


Wrong. All the All-in-ones have him improve a ton. The most important stat in basketball [+/-], has ANT making a major leap in impact this year.

NAW played like 15 minutes a game.


He played 23 MPG, which is half of the game. So, quite a lot of minutes, actually. He played in 1900 minutes all season and never missed a game.

Reid is your only real argument and even then he also played limited minutes.


Nah, NAW played in nearly 2K minutes and Reid played in the exact same amount of minutes as NAW.

I am done talking circles around you. Have a good day Notepad.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#949 » by Colbinii » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:38 pm

Note30 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:The best player on 4 50-win teams [and a 49-win team and 48 win-team] is a bloated contract, but Karl-Anthony Towns isn't? I don't think you guys really understand what you are trying to argue here.


Bro forgot Anthony Edwards and Donovan Mitchell.



Gobert led the Jazz in WS every season from 2017-2022
Mitchell wasn't on the 2017 Jazz
Mitchell was a rookie on the 2018 Jazz [Gobert was injured and missed 26 games, still led the team in WS and was 2nd in VORP]
Mitchell was a sophomore on the 2019 Jazz [Gobert led in VORP]
Gobert led the team in VORP in 2020
2021 was the best Jazz team and guess who missed a ton of games? Donovan Mitchell

You actually know nothing about basketball. Go touch grass.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#950 » by BlacJacMac » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:04 pm

Note30 wrote:MIN Out: Towns, #27, #37, 2028 1st swap rights
MIN In: Bridges, Murray

Atlanta In: Towns, DFS
Atlanta Out: Murray, Capela, ATL 1st, Johnson

Nets In: Johnson, Capela, #27, #37, 2028 1st Swap
Nets Out: Bridges, DFS


Wolves lineup post trade with Anderson resigned

Murray/Conley
Edwards/NAW
Bridges/McDaniels
Reid/Anderson
Gobert


Any way we can get Johnson instead of Bridges? Maybe cut BRK out of the deal?

I like Johnson's size and rebounding. He can start next to McDaniels instead of in front of him.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#951 » by Note30 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:11 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:The best player on 4 50-win teams [and a 49-win team and 48 win-team] is a bloated contract, but Karl-Anthony Towns isn't? I don't think you guys really understand what you are trying to argue here.


Bro forgot Anthony Edwards and Donovan Mitchell.



Gobert led the Jazz in WS every season from 2017-2022
Mitchell wasn't on the 2017 Jazz
Mitchell was a rookie on the 2018 Jazz [Gobert was injured and missed 26 games, still led the team in WS and was 2nd in VORP]
Mitchell was a sophomore on the 2019 Jazz [Gobert led in VORP]
Gobert led the team in VORP in 2020
2021 was the best Jazz team and guess who missed a ton of games? Donovan Mitchell

You actually know nothing about basketball. Go touch grass.


What's the highest level of basketball you've coached or played?

Most players will say Gobert is overrated af. Multiple execs say we overpaid for Gobert.

Only armchair, stat reading "analytics" based commenters talk Gobert up like you do.

All these stats, all these winning teams, never won a chip. He's good when the nets are lowered and there's less pressure.

If he's so good why the **** did Lively and Gafford destroy him. If he's so good how come he didn't block that shot Luka hit, if he's so good how come he didn't drop 35 a game?

If he's so good on defense why Jokic hit lob after lob to Gordon. Why did Gobert not play defense on him the whole time?

If he's so good why did some rookie get close to taking DPOY from him?

You talk major **** and make a ton of excuses for a guy who's impact you can't even see.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#952 » by thinktank » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:28 pm

Note30 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Bro forgot Anthony Edwards and Donovan Mitchell.



Gobert led the Jazz in WS every season from 2017-2022
Mitchell wasn't on the 2017 Jazz
Mitchell was a rookie on the 2018 Jazz [Gobert was injured and missed 26 games, still led the team in WS and was 2nd in VORP]
Mitchell was a sophomore on the 2019 Jazz [Gobert led in VORP]
Gobert led the team in VORP in 2020
2021 was the best Jazz team and guess who missed a ton of games? Donovan Mitchell

You actually know nothing about basketball. Go touch grass.


What's the highest level of basketball you've coached or played?

Most players will say Gobert is overrated af. Multiple execs say we overpaid for Gobert.

Only armchair, stat reading "analytics" based commenters talk Gobert up like you do.

All these stats, all these winning teams, never won a chip. He's good when the nets are lowered and there's less pressure.

If he's so good why the **** did Lively and Gafford destroy him. If he's so good how come he didn't block that shot Luka hit, if he's so good how come he didn't drop 35 a game?

If he's so good on defense why Jokic hit lob after lob to Gordon. Why did Gobert not play defense on him the whole time?

If he's so good why did some rookie get close to taking DPOY from him?

You talk major **** and make a ton of excuses for a guy who's impact you can't even see.


You can’t see the neverminds and altered shots that Grady is narrating for you?

There are easy-for-me-to-see answers to your questions that support Gobert’s major impact. (Btw, I played a TON of quality bball in my day. ;) )
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#953 » by Neeva » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:32 pm

Note30 wrote:MIN Out: Towns, #27, #37, 2028 1st swap rights
MIN In: Bridges, Murray

Atlanta In: Towns, DFS
Atlanta Out: Murray, Capela, ATL 1st, Johnson

Nets In: Johnson, Capela, #27, #37, 2028 1st Swap
Nets Out: Bridges, DFS


Wolves lineup post trade with Anderson resigned

Murray/Conley
Edwards/NAW
Bridges/McDaniels
Reid/Anderson
Gobert


Are you a secret Brooklyn fan? :lol: No way Bridges gets them all that (I don’t even think atlanta would do Johnson for Bridges straight up , after a hot start on the nets Bridges fell hard, and especially his detense) DFS looked close to cooked to finish this past season also. Where is the atlanta first going ?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#954 » by Note30 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:37 pm

thinktank wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:

Gobert led the Jazz in WS every season from 2017-2022
Mitchell wasn't on the 2017 Jazz
Mitchell was a rookie on the 2018 Jazz [Gobert was injured and missed 26 games, still led the team in WS and was 2nd in VORP]
Mitchell was a sophomore on the 2019 Jazz [Gobert led in VORP]
Gobert led the team in VORP in 2020
2021 was the best Jazz team and guess who missed a ton of games? Donovan Mitchell

You actually know nothing about basketball. Go touch grass.


What's the highest level of basketball you've coached or played?

Most players will say Gobert is overrated af. Multiple execs say we overpaid for Gobert.

Only armchair, stat reading "analytics" based commenters talk Gobert up like you do.

All these stats, all these winning teams, never won a chip. He's good when the nets are lowered and there's less pressure.

If he's so good why the **** did Lively and Gafford destroy him. If he's so good how come he didn't block that shot Luka hit, if he's so good how come he didn't drop 35 a game?

If he's so good on defense why Jokic hit lob after lob to Gordon. Why did Gobert not play defense on him the whole time?

If he's so good why did some rookie get close to taking DPOY from him?

You talk major **** and make a ton of excuses for a guy who's impact you can't even see.


You can’t see the neverminds and altered shots that Grady is narrating for you?

There are easy-for-me-to-see answers to your questions that support Gobert’s major impact. (Btw, I played a TON of quality bball in my day. ;) )


Is that worth $41 million dollars? Is that worth more than Towns?

Which player would you have an easier time trading?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#955 » by Jody Smokz » Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:27 am

KAT for KD straight up
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#956 » by Neeva » Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:42 am

Jody Smokz wrote:KAT for KD straight up


I’d do it, but i think the wolves need a little incentive since Kat is under contract for much longer. Like swap picks this year and Suns take wendell moore jr off of wolve’s hands to make salaries work.

Kat gets to play with his best friend and keep Booker in Phoenix,and wolves really go for it the next two years.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#957 » by thinktank » Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:03 am

Note30 wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Note30 wrote:
What's the highest level of basketball you've coached or played?

Most players will say Gobert is overrated af. Multiple execs say we overpaid for Gobert.

Only armchair, stat reading "analytics" based commenters talk Gobert up like you do.

All these stats, all these winning teams, never won a chip. He's good when the nets are lowered and there's less pressure.

If he's so good why the **** did Lively and Gafford destroy him. If he's so good how come he didn't block that shot Luka hit, if he's so good how come he didn't drop 35 a game?

If he's so good on defense why Jokic hit lob after lob to Gordon. Why did Gobert not play defense on him the whole time?

If he's so good why did some rookie get close to taking DPOY from him?

You talk major **** and make a ton of excuses for a guy who's impact you can't even see.


You can’t see the neverminds and altered shots that Grady is narrating for you?

There are easy-for-me-to-see answers to your questions that support Gobert’s major impact. (Btw, I played a TON of quality bball in my day. ;) )


Is that worth $41 million dollars? Is that worth more than Towns?

Which player would you have an easier time trading?


I didn’t know I had to make a trade right now.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#958 » by TimberKat » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:00 am

Note30 wrote:MIN Out: Towns, #27, #37, 2028 1st swap rights
MIN In: Bridges, Murray

Atlanta In: Towns, DFS
Atlanta Out: Murray, Capela, ATL 1st, Johnson

Nets In: Johnson, Capela, #27, #37, 2028 1st Swap
Nets Out: Bridges, DFS


Wolves lineup post trade with Anderson resigned

Murray/Conley
Edwards/NAW
Bridges/McDaniels
Reid/Anderson
Gobert

Yes, looks good if we could pull it off.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#959 » by shrink » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:18 am

Note30 wrote:MIN Out: Towns, #27, #37, 2028 1st swap rights
MIN In: Bridges, Murray

Atlanta In: Towns, DFS
Atlanta Out: Murray, Capela, ATL 1st, Johnson

Nets In: Johnson, Capela, #27, #37, 2028 1st Swap
Nets Out: Bridges, DFS


Wolves lineup post trade with Anderson resigned

Murray/Conley
Edwards/NAW
Bridges/McDaniels
Reid/Anderson
Gobert

Pushing McDaniels to the bench doesn’t maximize our talents. I like Bridges, but he is more valuable on other teams.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!) 

Post#960 » by cmoss84 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:14 am

shrink wrote:
Note30 wrote:MIN Out: Towns, #27, #37, 2028 1st swap rights
MIN In: Bridges, Murray

Atlanta In: Towns, DFS
Atlanta Out: Murray, Capela, ATL 1st, Johnson

Nets In: Johnson, Capela, #27, #37, 2028 1st Swap
Nets Out: Bridges, DFS


Wolves lineup post trade with Anderson resigned

Murray/Conley
Edwards/NAW
Bridges/McDaniels
Reid/Anderson
Gobert

Pushing McDaniels to the bench doesn’t maximize our talents. I like Bridges, but he is more valuable on other teams.

I love this trade but I get your point. Could Jaden be a combo 3/4...depending on matchups? This would also allow Naz to keep with 6th man some games...
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

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