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The 2025 Wolves Off Season

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#941 » by minimus » Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:09 am

Minnesota will likely keep its 2026 first-round pick, as the Jazz have the option to swap. Utah is expected to be one of the worst teams, though, so a swap is not expected to occur. In 2027, their first-round pick will either go to the Jazz or the Suns. It's pertinent that some of their recent draft picks hit and become vital parts of the rotation (Rob Dillingham, Terrence Shannon Jr., Jaylen Clark, Joan Beringer).


It feels good to know that MIN have 2026 pick
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#942 » by winforlose » Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:29 pm

minimus wrote:
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You can call him Bones, I will call him this years P.J Dozier.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#943 » by shrink » Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:41 pm

Partially guaranteed money was Connelly’s gift to Bones.

Just like his buddy PJ Dozier last year, no one else was bidding for him, and neither could say no to a completely unguaranteed deal.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#944 » by younggunsmn » Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:30 pm

Klomp wrote:
minimus wrote:
Read on Twitter

Note: PJ Dozier got $1 million guaranteed last year, so Tim is getting more frugal. Or perhaps ownership is just being cheap.... :lol:


Or PJ Dozier just passed his pictures of TC drunk at the christmas party onto Bones Hyland.

We're probably stuck with him on the roster for at least a couple months now. Gross.
Give me any random college free agent guard over Bones Hyland.
Or even Johnny Juzang.

There will be better players than Hyland cut by teams over the next month.

Probably better off just giving the kid a head start at finding a team in Europe.
Just like with PJ Dozier last year.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#945 » by shrink » Fri Sep 19, 2025 10:56 pm

I am not a fan of Tim Connelly’s off-season. We are hoping that Terrence Shannon Jr, Jaylen Clark and Dillingham can step up to help cover the loss of Nickiel Alexander-Walker. However, unlike many of our rivals, we didn’t get any legitimate rotation bench players in free agency. When we miss on a guy like Malcolm Brogdan, we’re quick to say, “oh, we didn’t need him anyway, he’s cooked,” but if we got him, we’d be happy about it. The team still has two big holes at back up center and back up PG. Sure, we only had vet mins to offer, but many decent players signed vet min deals elsewhere, and there was opportunity to come here as a free agent, and be on a contender to raise a player’s stock.

Our free agent acquisitions: Joe Ingles, Bones Hyland

Here are our rival’s acquisitions

DAL: DLo, Dennis Smith Jr
DEN: Bruce Brown, Tim Hardaway Jr, Valanciunas, Cam Johnson
GSW: Al Horford, DeAndre Melton waiting to sign after Kuminga
HOU: Clint Capela, Dorian Finney-Smith
LAC: Brad Beal, Brook Lopez, Chris Paul
LAL: Ayton, Marcus Smart

Yeah, I know we didn’t have the room to sign free agents, and used our limited financial flexibility to keep Naz and Randle. But many of these guys are vet mins signing, and we just didn’t bring anyone here.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#946 » by Klomp » Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:11 pm

shrink wrote:I am not a fan of Tim Connelly’s off-season. We are hoping that Terrence Shannon Jr, Jaylen Clark and Dillingham can step up to help cover the loss of Nickiel Alexander-Walker. However, unlike many of our rivals, we didn’t get any legitimate rotation bench players in free agency. When we miss on a guy like Malcolm Brogdan, we’re quick to say, “oh, we didn’t need him anyway, he’s cooked,” but if we got him, we’d be happy about it. The team still has two big holes at back up center and back up PG. Sure, we only had vet mins to offer, but many decent players signed vet min deals elsewhere, and there was opportunity to come here as a free agent, and be on a contender to raise a player’s stock.

Our free agent acquisitions: Joe Ingles, Bones Hyland

Here are our rival’s acquisitions

DAL: DLo, Dennis Smith Jr
DEN: Bruce Brown, Tim Hardaway Jr, Valanciunas, Cam Johnson
GSW: Al Horford, DeAndre Melton waiting to sign after Kuminga
HOU: Clint Capela, Dorian Finney-Smith
LAC: Brad Beal, Brook Lopez, Chris Paul
LAL: Ayton, Marcus Smart

Yeah, I know we didn’t have the room to sign free agents, and used our limited financial flexibility to keep Naz and Randle. But many of these guys are vet mins signing, and we just didn’t bring anyone here.

Mavericks, Warriors and Lakers signings really don't do that much for me....

Denver has to use those signings to offset the losses of Porter and Westbrook. Houston's season will be defined by the result of the big trade, these signings might be relatively inconsequential. The Clippers added a 40-year old and a 37-year old, and a guy that kinda destroyed what was building in Phoenix.

Continuity isn't exciting. Many here had the same concerns about not doing anything two years ago, and it resulted in a 14-win jump from year to year.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#947 » by shangrila » Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:47 pm

shrink wrote:I am not a fan of Tim Connelly’s off-season. We are hoping that Terrence Shannon Jr, Jaylen Clark and Dillingham can step up to help cover the loss of Nickiel Alexander-Walker. However, unlike many of our rivals, we didn’t get any legitimate rotation bench players in free agency. When we miss on a guy like Malcolm Brogdan, we’re quick to say, “oh, we didn’t need him anyway, he’s cooked,” but if we got him, we’d be happy about it. The team still has two big holes at back up center and back up PG. Sure, we only had vet mins to offer, but many decent players signed vet min deals elsewhere, and there was opportunity to come here as a free agent, and be on a contender to raise a player’s stock.

Our free agent acquisitions: Joe Ingles, Bones Hyland

Here are our rival’s acquisitions

DAL: DLo, Dennis Smith Jr
DEN: Bruce Brown, Tim Hardaway Jr, Valanciunas, Cam Johnson
GSW: Al Horford, DeAndre Melton waiting to sign after Kuminga
HOU: Clint Capela, Dorian Finney-Smith
LAC: Brad Beal, Brook Lopez, Chris Paul
LAL: Ayton, Marcus Smart

Yeah, I know we didn’t have the room to sign free agents, and used our limited financial flexibility to keep Naz and Randle. But many of these guys are vet mins signing, and we just didn’t bring anyone here.

You say we only had the vet min to offer, then proceed to list a dozen players that either cost more than the vet min or were acquired via trade.

What?
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#948 » by shrink » Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:20 am

shangrila wrote:
shrink wrote:I am not a fan of Tim Connelly’s off-season. We are hoping that Terrence Shannon Jr, Jaylen Clark and Dillingham can step up to help cover the loss of Nickiel Alexander-Walker. However, unlike many of our rivals, we didn’t get any legitimate rotation bench players in free agency. When we miss on a guy like Malcolm Brogdan, we’re quick to say, “oh, we didn’t need him anyway, he’s cooked,” but if we got him, we’d be happy about it. The team still has two big holes at back up center and back up PG. Sure, we only had vet mins to offer, but many decent players signed vet min deals elsewhere, and there was opportunity to come here as a free agent, and be on a contender to raise a player’s stock.

Our free agent acquisitions: Joe Ingles, Bones Hyland

Here are our rival’s acquisitions

DAL: DLo, Dennis Smith Jr
DEN: Bruce Brown, Tim Hardaway Jr, Valanciunas, Cam Johnson
GSW: Al Horford, DeAndre Melton waiting to sign after Kuminga
HOU: Clint Capela, Dorian Finney-Smith
LAC: Brad Beal, Brook Lopez, Chris Paul
LAL: Ayton, Marcus Smart

Yeah, I know we didn’t have the room to sign free agents, and used our limited financial flexibility to keep Naz and Randle. But many of these guys are vet mins signing, and we just didn’t bring anyone here.

You say we only had the vet min to offer, then proceed to list a dozen players that either cost more than the vet min or were acquired via trade.

What?

Well, technically we had the tax-payer MLE ($5.75), the BAE ($5.135) and the NAW TPE ($7.59), but with lux taxes, our high payroll, and apron considerations, I look at it as basically having vet mins. The large (though not necessarily unfair) contracts we gave to Randle and Naz cut the legs out from under us. I do wonder with so little free agent money available in the league,whether Connelly could have played some hardball, but he seems to prioritize relationship over money.

I listed the other contracts to show how much ground we lost in the free agent market to rivals, not that they could all have been here on the vet min.
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Post#949 » by minimus » Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:21 am

I'd definitely define early Gobert extension, then Reid and Randle re-signings as acquisitions. And I'd add Beringer as acquisition as well.
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Post#950 » by shrink » Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:19 pm

minimus wrote:I'd definitely define early Gobert extension, then Reid and Randle re-signings as acquisitions. And I'd add Beringer as acquisition as well.

By that standard, other teams’ “acquisitions” included Luka, Harden, Booker, Holmgren, JWill and SGA.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#951 » by Guest84 » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:19 am

Did I miss something? I just read that KG was the new Chief operations Officer for the wolves now.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#952 » by Guest84 » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:24 am

Guest84 wrote:Did I miss something? I just read that KG was the new Chief operations Officer for the wolves now.


Looks like it was a fake post I saw…carry on
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#953 » by KGdaBom » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:39 am

Guest84 wrote:Did I miss something? I just read that KG was the new Chief operations Officer for the wolves now.

I don't think it would be a good idea, but it was fun. :lol:
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#954 » by shrink » Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:41 pm

Kevin Love is expected to be bought out, can sign with any team, and wants to be on a contender.

MIN has never been able to get free agents to want to come here. For many years, we weren’t a bad team, and free agents only knew Minnesota weather from their games here in the winter. Love knows what it’s like to be here, and we are a contender that definitely needs a back up center. He could bookend his career, perhaps helping his original team make a big playoff run.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#955 » by Norseman79 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 5:39 pm

I think our offseason sucked. I liked our draft. That was about it.
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Post#956 » by Klomp » Sat Sep 27, 2025 9:19 pm

shrink wrote:Kevin Love is expected to be bought out, can sign with any team, and wants to be on a contender.

MIN has never been able to get free agents to want to come here. For many years, we weren’t a bad team, and free agents only knew Minnesota weather from their games here in the winter. Love knows what it’s like to be here, and we are a contender that definitely needs a back up center. He could bookend his career, perhaps helping his original team make a big playoff run.

Doubtful
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#957 » by KGdaBom » Sat Sep 27, 2025 10:11 pm

shrink wrote:Kevin Love is expected to be bought out, can sign with any team, and wants to be on a contender.

MIN has never been able to get free agents to want to come here. For many years, we weren’t a bad team, and free agents only knew Minnesota weather from their games here in the winter. Love knows what it’s like to be here, and we are a contender that definitely needs a back up center. He could bookend his career, perhaps helping his original team make a big playoff run.

I'd take him back in a heartbeat, but don't know if he can beat out Le Berricade for minutes.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#958 » by shangrila » Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:19 pm

shrink wrote:
shangrila wrote:
shrink wrote:I am not a fan of Tim Connelly’s off-season. We are hoping that Terrence Shannon Jr, Jaylen Clark and Dillingham can step up to help cover the loss of Nickiel Alexander-Walker. However, unlike many of our rivals, we didn’t get any legitimate rotation bench players in free agency. When we miss on a guy like Malcolm Brogdan, we’re quick to say, “oh, we didn’t need him anyway, he’s cooked,” but if we got him, we’d be happy about it. The team still has two big holes at back up center and back up PG. Sure, we only had vet mins to offer, but many decent players signed vet min deals elsewhere, and there was opportunity to come here as a free agent, and be on a contender to raise a player’s stock.

Our free agent acquisitions: Joe Ingles, Bones Hyland

Here are our rival’s acquisitions

DAL: DLo, Dennis Smith Jr
DEN: Bruce Brown, Tim Hardaway Jr, Valanciunas, Cam Johnson
GSW: Al Horford, DeAndre Melton waiting to sign after Kuminga
HOU: Clint Capela, Dorian Finney-Smith
LAC: Brad Beal, Brook Lopez, Chris Paul
LAL: Ayton, Marcus Smart

Yeah, I know we didn’t have the room to sign free agents, and used our limited financial flexibility to keep Naz and Randle. But many of these guys are vet mins signing, and we just didn’t bring anyone here.

You say we only had the vet min to offer, then proceed to list a dozen players that either cost more than the vet min or were acquired via trade.

What?

Well, technically we had the tax-payer MLE ($5.75), the BAE ($5.135) and the NAW TPE ($7.59), but with lux taxes, our high payroll, and apron considerations, I look at it as basically having vet mins. The large (though not necessarily unfair) contracts we gave to Randle and Naz cut the legs out from under us. I do wonder with so little free agent money available in the league,whether Connelly could have played some hardball, but he seems to prioritize relationship over money.

I listed the other contracts to show how much ground we lost in the free agent market to rivals, not that they could all have been here on the vet min.

That's fine, but you presented it as the reason you weren't a fan of the offseason. So do you think they could have done more? Even with the realistic restrictions you've admitted the team had?
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#959 » by TimberKat » Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:43 am

KGdaBom wrote:
shrink wrote:Kevin Love is expected to be bought out, can sign with any team, and wants to be on a contender.

MIN has never been able to get free agents to want to come here. For many years, we weren’t a bad team, and free agents only knew Minnesota weather from their games here in the winter. Love knows what it’s like to be here, and we are a contender that definitely needs a back up center. He could bookend his career, perhaps helping his original team make a big playoff run.

I'd take him back in a heartbeat, but don't know if he can beat out Le Berricade for minutes.

He is going to LAL
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#960 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:21 am

TimberKat wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
shrink wrote:Kevin Love is expected to be bought out, can sign with any team, and wants to be on a contender.

MIN has never been able to get free agents to want to come here. For many years, we weren’t a bad team, and free agents only knew Minnesota weather from their games here in the winter. Love knows what it’s like to be here, and we are a contender that definitely needs a back up center. He could bookend his career, perhaps helping his original team make a big playoff run.

I'd take him back in a heartbeat, but don't know if he can beat out Le Berricade for minutes.

He is going to LAL

Seems like a very Lakers move.

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