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2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

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Who should Minnesota Pick at #1 (Assuming Minnesota keeps the pick)?

Anthony Edwards
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LaMelo Ball
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22%
James Wiseman
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35%
 
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#961 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:52 pm

Klomp wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I disagree jacking up many 3s a game at 25% is going to hurt your offense more than a very good passer finding somebody else to take them. If we had Ball I would only want him taking wide open layups. Leave the shooting to those who can actually make them.

Luka Doncic hurts the Mavs offense, got it...

Luka is a mediocre not bad 3 point shooter. He makes 32% which is a hell of a lot better than 25%. He has an EFg of 53% which is solid. It is possible that he should take a few less shots. Maybe his efficiency would go up if he were a bit more selective, but he's not a player I would be concerned about. Ball is simply a player I would want to limit to open shots at the rim.75% of the time he shoots from 3 he is going to hurt the team.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#962 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:58 pm

_AIJ_ wrote:Damn it! I want to draft Deni now! This draft sucks. lots of options to choose from.

If Deni can live up to his potential as a point PF he could be awesome. :D
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#963 » by Klomp » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:07 pm

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I think a lot of people need to remember this. LaVar Ball is not LaMelo Ball. The Timberwolves would not be drafting LaVar Ball.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#964 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:11 pm

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I think a lot of people need to remember this. LaVar Ball is not LaMelo Ball. The Timberwolves would not be drafting LaVar Ball.

I would never even consider drafting LaVar even if he were draft eligible. I think he lost his athleticism a long time ago. :D :lol:
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#965 » by UnFadeable21 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:13 pm



Concern with Anthony Edwards for a top pick

Teams are worried about Edwards' drive and enthusiasm for winning, and according to a source, the Golden State Warriors aren't a likely landing spot due to these concerns.

Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC.

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven't won at any level, and that he even forgets plays and actions.

He could still get consideration at No. 1 from Minnesota, but most seem to think the Wolves will favor Ball, who should also generate more interest from teams looking to trade up, given his superior star power and potential to transform a struggling team's identity with his flashy playmaking and exciting pace.

Meanwhile, the more we ask around about Edwards, the more we hear concern about his professionalism and ability to impact winning, even if his scoring production carries over.

While a trade could throw off any predraft predictions, the likelihood of Edwards dropping to No. 3 seems to have increased. The Charlotte Hornets would then have a tough call, particularly if James Wiseman is still on the board.



Low motor and low b-ball iq is indeed a worry about Edwards from NBA scouts
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#966 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:15 pm

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Concern with Anthony Edwards for a top pick

Teams are worried about Edwards' drive and enthusiasm for winning, and according to a source, the Golden State Warriors aren't a likely landing spot due to these concerns.

Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC.

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven't won at any level, and that he even forgets plays and actions.

He could still get consideration at No. 1 from Minnesota, but most seem to think the Wolves will favor Ball, who should also generate more interest from teams looking to trade up, given his superior star power and potential to transform a struggling team's identity with his flashy playmaking and exciting pace.

Meanwhile, the more we ask around about Edwards, the more we hear concern about his professionalism and ability to impact winning, even if his scoring production carries over.

While a trade could throw off any predraft predictions, the likelihood of Edwards dropping to No. 3 seems to have increased. The Charlotte Hornets would then have a tough call, particularly if James Wiseman is still on the board.



Low motor and low b-ball iq is indeed a worry about Edwards from NBA scouts

I was warming up to him. Maybe I have to cross him off my big board. Only three acceptable players at #1. Wiseman, Okongwu or Deni.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#967 » by Slim Tubby » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:31 pm

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Concern with Anthony Edwards for a top pick

Teams are worried about Edwards' drive and enthusiasm for winning, and according to a source, the Golden State Warriors aren't a likely landing spot due to these concerns.

Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC.

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven't won at any level, and that he even forgets plays and actions.

He could still get consideration at No. 1 from Minnesota, but most seem to think the Wolves will favor Ball, who should also generate more interest from teams looking to trade up, given his superior star power and potential to transform a struggling team's identity with his flashy playmaking and exciting pace.

Meanwhile, the more we ask around about Edwards, the more we hear concern about his professionalism and ability to impact winning, even if his scoring production carries over.

While a trade could throw off any predraft predictions, the likelihood of Edwards dropping to No. 3 seems to have increased. The Charlotte Hornets would then have a tough call, particularly if James Wiseman is still on the board.



Low motor and low b-ball iq is indeed a worry about Edwards from NBA scouts

I’ve been saying this for a month having watched quite a bit of Edwards at Georgia. He has the “Wiggins” mentality without the same production in one year of college. Stay the HELL away from Edwards at all cost.


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#968 » by UnFadeable21 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:34 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:


Concern with Anthony Edwards for a top pick

Teams are worried about Edwards' drive and enthusiasm for winning, and according to a source, the Golden State Warriors aren't a likely landing spot due to these concerns.

Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC.

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven't won at any level, and that he even forgets plays and actions.

He could still get consideration at No. 1 from Minnesota, but most seem to think the Wolves will favor Ball, who should also generate more interest from teams looking to trade up, given his superior star power and potential to transform a struggling team's identity with his flashy playmaking and exciting pace.

Meanwhile, the more we ask around about Edwards, the more we hear concern about his professionalism and ability to impact winning, even if his scoring production carries over.

While a trade could throw off any predraft predictions, the likelihood of Edwards dropping to No. 3 seems to have increased. The Charlotte Hornets would then have a tough call, particularly if James Wiseman is still on the board.



Low motor and low b-ball iq is indeed a worry about Edwards from NBA scouts

I’ve been saying this for a month having watched quite a bit of Edwards at Georgia. He has the “Wiggins” mentality without the same production in one year of college. Stay the HELL away from Edwards at all cost.


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Edwards at Georgia

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Wiggins at Kansas

17ppg 6rebs 2ast
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#969 » by Neeva » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:50 pm

Sounds like something a team that wants Edwards to fall would say,, charlotte or Chicago gms..
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#970 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:00 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:
Low motor and low b-ball iq is indeed a worry about Edwards from NBA scouts

I’ve been saying this for a month having watched quite a bit of Edwards at Georgia. He has the “Wiggins” mentality without the same production in one year of college. Stay the HELL away from Edwards at all cost.


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Edwards at Georgia

19ppg 5rebs 3ast
40% FG 29% 3pt

Wiggins at Kansas

17ppg 6rebs 2ast
48% FG 34% 3pt

Wiggins was a lot more efficient, but I would guess that playing on a good Kansas team would make for better efficiency than playing on a bad Georgia team. Wiggins is slightly taller but a stick figure. Edwards has a man's body.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#971 » by UnFadeable21 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:05 pm

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NBA draft prospect LaMelo Ball has been working out in Detroit since March. Here's why





LaMelo Ball, a potential No. 1 pick in the 2020 NBA draft, isn’t from Detroit.

But the Chino Hills, California, native has been living and working out in the metro Detroit area since March, thanks to a connection with his manager.

His manager is Jermaine Jackson, a former Detroit Finney and Detroit Mercy star who was also an assistant coach at UDM 2015-18.


Ball has been spotted on social media at various Detroit institutions this year, and he was at a gym in the city Monday when he addressed reporters via Zoom.

There’s a good chance Ball won’t be available when the Pistons pick at No. 7 in November’s draft, as he’s widely projected to be a top-four pick. But if he were to fall (or if the Pistons moved up), he’d already be familiar with the area.


“I definitely always had that mindset, but you know how it is out here,” Ball said when asked if he’s been able to adopt the “hard-nosed” mindset that Detroiters have. “So that’s only going to help, too.”

Ball, who participated in the NBA’s virtual draft combine media sessions on Monday, is one of many players likely near the top of the Pistons’ draft board. He’s widely regarded to be the best point guard prospect in this draft, and point guard is a major positional need for the Pistons.


He said he hasn’t talked to the Pistons, and it’s unclear if he will. But Ball declined to confirm if he talked to multiple teams when asked. The only team he confirmed he’s talked to so far is the New York Knicks, who have the eighth overall pick.

But he’s confident he can fit in with any team.

“With any team, I’ll give my best,” he said.


Ball met Jackson in 2018, when Jackson coached Ball at the SPIRE Institute in Geneva, Ohio. Jackson then moved with Ball to Australia during the summer of 2019, after Ball signed a contract with the Illawarra Hawks. Ball averaged 17 points, 7.6 rebounds, 6.8 assists and 1.6 steals last season, solidifying himself as one of the best prospects in the draft.

Even though he’s called Detroit home for six months, Ball made it clear that he views himself as being worthy of going No. 1.

“Ever since I was little, when you do little projects and stuff, that was one of my goals,” he said. "To go to the NBA and be the No. 1 pick.”

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II 

Post#972 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:10 pm

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NBA draft prospect LaMelo Ball has been working out in Detroit since March. Here's why





LaMelo Ball, a potential No. 1 pick in the 2020 NBA draft, isn’t from Detroit.

But the Chino Hills, California, native has been living and working out in the metro Detroit area since March, thanks to a connection with his manager.

His manager is Jermaine Jackson, a former Detroit Finney and Detroit Mercy star who was also an assistant coach at UDM 2015-18.


Ball has been spotted on social media at various Detroit institutions this year, and he was at a gym in the city Monday when he addressed reporters via Zoom.

There’s a good chance Ball won’t be available when the Pistons pick at No. 7 in November’s draft, as he’s widely projected to be a top-four pick. But if he were to fall (or if the Pistons moved up), he’d already be familiar with the area.


“I definitely always had that mindset, but you know how it is out here,” Ball said when asked if he’s been able to adopt the “hard-nosed” mindset that Detroiters have. “So that’s only going to help, too.”

Ball, who participated in the NBA’s virtual draft combine media sessions on Monday, is one of many players likely near the top of the Pistons’ draft board. He’s widely regarded to be the best point guard prospect in this draft, and point guard is a major positional need for the Pistons.


He said he hasn’t talked to the Pistons, and it’s unclear if he will. But Ball declined to confirm if he talked to multiple teams when asked. The only team he confirmed he’s talked to so far is the New York Knicks, who have the eighth overall pick.

But he’s confident he can fit in with any team.

“With any team, I’ll give my best,” he said.


Ball met Jackson in 2018, when Jackson coached Ball at the SPIRE Institute in Geneva, Ohio. Jackson then moved with Ball to Australia during the summer of 2019, after Ball signed a contract with the Illawarra Hawks. Ball averaged 17 points, 7.6 rebounds, 6.8 assists and 1.6 steals last season, solidifying himself as one of the best prospects in the draft.

Even though he’s called Detroit home for six months, Ball made it clear that he views himself as being worthy of going No. 1.

“Ever since I was little, when you do little projects and stuff, that was one of my goals,” he said. "To go to the NBA and be the No. 1 pick.”


There's always the chance there is substance to reports of bigger and stronger, but it's the same crap you read about a million players every draft and read about all your existing players every off season.
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Post#973 » by UnFadeable21 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:37 pm

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Post#974 » by KGdaBom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:54 pm

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Even on this link where they say it's looking smooth it's looking horrible. He shooting it from his chin.
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Post#975 » by BadWolf » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:01 pm

A lot if Lamelo fluff coming out today. What's going on?
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Post#976 » by CptCrunch » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:15 pm

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He changed his shooting from from last year. His old shot was lower, but had more follow-through. Now his off hand flips backwards towards his head, must be his new shooting motion. :banghead:

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Any 18 year old reinventing their shot is trouble, shooting wise.
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Post#977 » by _AIJ_ » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:16 pm

Im torn between Ball and Avdija. whatever happens, just stay away from edwards. i dont care anymore.
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Post#978 » by Klomp » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:24 pm

CptCrunch wrote:Any 18 year old reinventing their shot is trouble, shooting wise.

That must be why KGdaBom hates Ball so much. He reinvented his shooting form at the same age Brandon Clarke did. And we all know how much he hated Clarke, and how much Clarke busted as a rookie.
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Post#979 » by Neeva » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:37 pm

BadWolf wrote:A lot if Lamelo fluff coming out today. What's going on?


Only draftee with a pr firm?
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Post#980 » by Neeva » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:43 pm

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Yean Ball and Haliburton shots are hideous looking ( Haliburton’s go in more though) I am torn because those two do have some star potential but also major Fultz vibes.

if Wolves need a future pg I am leaning towards Ty Terry. Not the rebounding of Ball or defensive potential of Haliburton but Terry’s shot is so much better.

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