Trade Talk (Part Seven)

[shrink]

I'd be happy with Richaun Holmes or Jamychal Green as tough bigs

I’d offer the full MLE for Holmes, but he might get more. It’s a shame the Hield trade didn’t go through, because adding Kuzma and Harrell might have made it less likely the Kings re-signed Harrell.

I’ve always liked JaMychal Green, but I heard he may have declined this season. He should be available. Hard to believe he’s 31 already.

[Norseman79]

The loss of Rubio's value/contract as a trade chip or part of a bigger trade pretty much eliminates us from big game hunting from the standpoint of making salaries line up....

The bigger question I have is if Rubio said he wanted to start or trade him... because from a solely back up perspective, the drop from Rubio to any other PG on the roster is far greater than the improvement from Prince to a guy like Juancho

[_AIJ_]

So we wait until Monday or Friday?

[IceManBK1]

all hope is not lost yet...we can still be in a 3 way sign and trade b/w raptors, 76ers, and us. Hopefully we get either Siakam or Simmons from this trade. Warriors hasn't traded for Turner yet. So he's still available too.

[Foye]

all hope is not lost yet...we can still be in a 3 way sign and trade b/w raptors, 76ers, and us. Hopefully we get either Siakam or Simmons from this trade. Warriors hasn't traded for Turner yet. So he's still available too.

Yeah...no.

[Colbinii]

all hope is not lost yet...we can still be in a 3 way sign and trade b/w raptors, 76ers, and us. Hopefully we get either Siakam or Simmons from this trade. Warriors hasn't traded for Turner yet. So he's still available too.

The Wolves aren't in a position and don't have the assets for a big name like Simmons or Siakam.

[jpatrick]

If ownership will let him trade future picks, which is not a given, after the DLo swap and with new ownership coming in, I think Rosas will end up with a decent big. Maybe not Simmons, but a Turner, Siakam, etc.

I have no idea what we’d give up for Turner though. Do they want someone like Beasley plus picks? Would we give up Beasley, McDaniels, and a FRP? I wouldn’t.

[shangrila]

If ownership will let him trade future picks, which is not a given, after the DLo swap and with new ownership coming in, I think Rosas will end up with a decent big. Maybe not Simmons, but a Turner, Siakam, etc.

I have no idea what we’d give up for Turner though. Do they want someone like Beasley plus picks? Would we give up Beasley, McDaniels, and a FRP? I wouldn’t.

For Turner I'd probably do that deal with Reid instead of McDaniels. And protections on the pick, something like lottery for 2 years then top 10 then 2nds.

But as you say they might not want Beasley, especially given they just drafted Duarte.

[_AIJ_]

Is the Myles Turner dream still alive?

[Neeva]

Turner and simmons are overated especially for their cost.

[IceManBK1]

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I think we have 7 sth Mil in cap space now?

[packforfreedom]

Why would he come to us instead of going to the lakers?

[Neeva]

Why would wolves want him?

[karch34]

I'd be happy with Richaun Holmes or Jamychal Green as tough bigs

I’d offer the full MLE for Holmes, but he might get more. It’s a shame the Hield trade didn’t go through, because adding Kuzma and Harrell might have made it less likely the Kings re-signed Harrell.

I’ve always liked JaMychal Green, but I heard he may have declined this season. He should be available. Hard to believe he’s 31 already.

Love Holmes but have a feeling some team goes slightly above MLE to get him. I’m surprised Green is that old, but also feels like we’ve talked about him since I joined the board.

[TaylorTag]

If Dame or Beal or Lowry don't work out for Simmons, how far off would we be with a package of Prince, Beasely and 3 firsts?

[_AIJ_]

Turner and simmons are overated especially for their cost.

Any options in mind?

[moonpie]

Pelicans have been missing that pure shooter since JJ left. How about Malik? Also there have been some rumblings that Hart isn't too happy in NOP so in this scenario, I included him as a S&T (let's say 3 yrs/$24-27M).

MIN in: Myles Turner, Josh Hart (via S&T)
MIN out: Malik Beasley, Jarrett Culver, Leandro Bolmaro, 2022 2nd round pick (MIN), 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)

IND in: Jarrett Culver, Leandro Bolmaro, Wenyen Gabriel, 2022 1st round pick (NOP, top 10 protected), 2022 2nd round pick (MIN), 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)
IND out: Myles Turner

NOP in: Malik Beasley
NOP out: Wenyen Gariel, 2022 1st round pick (top 10 protected)

MIN - It's clear that Turner is someone we're interested in and slots in at the 5 as a rim protector who can stretch the floor, sliding KAT over to the 4. Hart replaces Malik. Less offensive punch, but a solid defender/rebounder and will come a bit cheaper. We give up Bolmaro, but preserve future 1sts. By acquiring Hart in a S&T instead of throwing an offer sheet at him, I believe we can still use our MLE based on the cap figures?

IND - Save a lot of money and pick up some prospects and picks. Shift to Sabonis full time at C?

NOP - Get a sniper to space the floor for Zion and Ingram and whichever PG they end up with

DLO/Nowell/JMac or Mckinley
Ant/Hart/Okogie
Jaden/Prince/Layman
KAT/Vando/Juancho
Turner/Naz

[IceManBK1]

Pelicans have been missing that pure shooter since JJ left. How about Malik? Also there have been some rumblings that Hart isn't too happy in NOP so in this scenario, I included him as a S&T (let's say 3 yrs/$24-27M).

MIN in: Myles Turner, Josh Hart (via S&T)
MIN out: Malik Beasley, Jarrett Culver, Leandro Bolmaro, 2022 2nd round pick (MIN), 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)

IND in: Jarrett Culver, Leandro Bolmaro, Wenyen Gabriel, 2022 1st round pick (NOP, top 10 protected), 2022 2nd round pick (MIN), 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)
IND out: Myles Turner

NOP in: Malik Beasley
NOP out: Wenyen Gariel, 2022 1st round pick (top 10 protected)

MIN - It's clear that Turner is someone we're interested in and slots in at the 5 as a rim protector who can stretch the floor, sliding KAT over to the 4. Hart replaces Malik. Less offensive punch, but a solid defender/rebounder and will come a bit cheaper. We give up Bolmaro, but preserve future 1sts. By acquiring Hart in a S&T instead of throwing an offer sheet at him, I believe we can still use our MLE based on the cap figures?

IND - Save a lot of money and pick up some prospects and picks. Shift to Sabonis full time at C?

NOP - Get a sniper to space the floor for Zion and Ingram and whichever PG they end up with

DLO/Nowell/JMac or Mckinley
Ant/Hart/Okogie
Jaden/Prince/Layman
KAT/Vando/Juancho
Turner/Naz

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If Warriors want Simmons then they won't go after Turner?

[moonpie]

^They could I guess, but I haven't seen anything linking the Warriors to Turner

[moonpie]

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Holmes is another guy that fits the mold of a defensive, rim running C. If the Kings don't want to pay him that much, maybe we can get involved? Incentive for the Kings would be us taking on Hield's contract while routing Malik to a 3rd team, Kings get some assets back instead of losing Holmes for nothing and free up money by unloading a disgruntled Hield (and possibly Bagley as well). Gets us the big we want next to KAT, take on an, in essence, older, more expensive version of Beasley, but get to keep more assets because of those facts