Woj: Wolves trade for Gobert

[MN7725]

To be fair, I highly doubt Naz Reid and Walker Kessler were exchangeable. Utah definitely wanted Kessler, in that trade.

Maybe, but the trade talks started before the draft, so I don’t know. I think there are a lot of questions about those negotiations we simply will never know the answers to.

Just the team control aspect makes Reid an unlikely target

[TimberKat]

God-darn-it Shrink.....that just makes too much sense! "It's called addition by subtraction"

I am overjoyed by this trade. It is "bold and visionary". Simply put, we are going to kick-ass because of it!

Supposed we could keep all five of those players. Would any of them make us better consider the top 10 guys are: Gobert, KAT, JMac, Ant, DLow, Andersen, Prince, Forbes, Nowell, JMcL? Who would you swap out? The only pick that is at risk is the 2027. The 2026 pick swap is low risk as Jazz also have a pick swap with Cavs. Sure we are lock-in and difficult to make other moves other than move DLow.
Just win baby! Not going to worry about picks now. I think Town and Gobert playing together will work out great. No one complained Dirk Nowitzki was too tall and should play center.

Kessler is a wild card. Not sure if he would have been better than Knight. Time will tell.

Lea is unlikely to make the Jazz roster, and I am not 100% sure we didn’t just dump him for a salary and a roster spot. No loss there.

Bev and Beasley were necessary to make the money work. I would love it if Bev made such a mess of the Lakers locker room that they bought him out and he came here. Not gonna happen, but would be fun. Short of that, they were the cost of doing business.

V8 I would have kept. He can defend the SF and PF and has value as an emergency center. He would have been the 11th man fighting for time against Prince and Anderson, but still great depth at a great price. The trade exemption might come in handy later, or it might not. V8 over Knight is a clear win.

Is there playing time for V8 given the current roster? I still play him after JMAC, Andersen, Prince

I think Bev and Beasley is about the same as (if not behind) Nowell, Forbes, JMcL

Keeping Kessler or one of the picks would be good. I was thinking Knight won't make the team but given how well he played in the first two games, he is ahead of Reid for the last few minutes of a game.

[winforlose]

Supposed we could keep all five of those players. Would any of them make us better consider the top 10 guys are: Gobert, KAT, JMac, Ant, DLow, Andersen, Prince, Forbes, Nowell, JMcL? Who would you swap out? The only pick that is at risk is the 2027. The 2026 pick swap is low risk as Jazz also have a pick swap with Cavs. Sure we are lock-in and difficult to make other moves other than move DLow.
Just win baby! Not going to worry about picks now. I think Town and Gobert playing together will work out great. No one complained Dirk Nowitzki was too tall and should play center.

Kessler is a wild card. Not sure if he would have been better than Knight. Time will tell.

Lea is unlikely to make the Jazz roster, and I am not 100% sure we didn’t just dump him for a salary and a roster spot. No loss there.

Bev and Beasley were necessary to make the money work. I would love it if Bev made such a mess of the Lakers locker room that they bought him out and he came here. Not gonna happen, but would be fun. Short of that, they were the cost of doing business.

V8 I would have kept. He can defend the SF and PF and has value as an emergency center. He would have been the 11th man fighting for time against Prince and Anderson, but still great depth at a great price. The trade exemption might come in handy later, or it might not. V8 over Knight is a clear win.

Is there playing time for V8 given the current roster? I still play him after JMAC, Andersen, Prince

I think Bev and Beasley is about the same as (if not behind) Nowell, Forbes, JMcL

Keeping Kessler or one of the picks would be good. I was thinking Knight won't make the team but given how well he played in the first two games, he is ahead of Reid for the last few minutes of a game.

Don’t let preseason fool you. Naz has a much better track record than Knight, and Knight has a history of being owned by opposing bigs. Knight is still more likely on the hot seat than Naz, especially if Garza impresses in practice.

V8 would have been an insurance player at 3-5. Even if he was 11th man, 4 million is a small price to pay for that kind of depth.

[Klomp]

Is there playing time for V8 given the current roster? I still play him after JMAC, Andersen, Prince

He would've been functionally in the Naz spot in the rotation, except you probably can't play him with Rudy.

[Klomp]

V8 would have been an insurance player at 3-5. Even if he was 11th man, 4 million is a small price to pay for that kind of depth.

$4 million is a lot to pay for DNP-CDs.

[winforlose]

V8 would have been an insurance player at 3-5. Even if he was 11th man, 4 million is a small price to pay for that kind of depth.

$4 million is a lot to pay for DNP-CDs.

4 million buys you a guy who can defend 1-4 and be an emergency 5. It buys you an elite rebounder, and a guy well liked and respected by the players V8 would be first guy in to replace Prince, KA, Naz, and would get a rotation spot if KAT or Rudy got hurt. That is a lot of insurance for only 4 million.

[Klomp]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

[Dewey]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

Beverly is far better example had we kept him … that’s the MF that we’ll miss most IMO. nothing against McD, but Beverly to me seems the natural comparison in that Boston deal.

[Dewey]

V8 would have been an insurance player at 3-5. Even if he was 11th man, 4 million is a small price to pay for that kind of depth.

$4 million is a lot to pay for DNP-CDs.

4 million buys you a guy who can defend 1-4 and be an emergency 5. It buys you an elite rebounder, and a guy well liked and respected by the players V8 would be first guy in to replace Prince, KA, Naz, and would get a rotation spot if KAT or Rudy got hurt. That is a lot of insurance for only 4 million.

Ya he’d be a great bench player for us, but teams lose that luxury (like we did) when they have a collection of max deals and have to roll the dice in cheaper options.

[Movics]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

Beverly is far better example had we kept him … that’s the MF that we’ll miss most IMO. nothing against McD, but Beverly to me seems the natural comparison in that Boston deal.

Young player with a bright future who is a great fit with all the stars on the team. That describes McDaniels and Rondo back in the day

[Krapinsky]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

I personally don't see it just because McDaniels is going to be stuck in an unheralded off the ball role as a low volume wing defender for as long as we have KAT and Edwards. 10 points and 5 rebounds per game is just not going to gather much recognition.

My crystal ball says McDaniel's break out will likely come on another team when he gets a rich RFA offer that we can't afford to match.

[Klomp]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

Beverly is far better example had we kept him … that’s the MF that we’ll miss most IMO. nothing against McD, but Beverly to me seems the natural comparison in that Boston deal.

Young player with a bright future who is a great fit with all the stars on the team. That describes McDaniels and Rondo back in the day

Exactly. Beverley is the Ratliff, Vanderbilt the Gomes, Beasley the Jefferson. Bolmaro is Telfair.

[Klomp]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

I personally don't see it just because McDaniels is going to be stuck in an unheralded role as a low volume wing defender for as long as we have KAT and Edwards. 10 points and 5 rebounds per game is just not going to gather much recognition.

My crystal ball says McDaniel's break out will likely come on another team when he gets a rich RFA offer that we can't afford to match.

Do you remember what Rondo was in his first few seasons? 10 pts/5ast in his first season as starter with the Big 3. 12/8 the next year. The definition of low volume.

[fattymcgee]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

Beverly is far better example had we kept him … that’s the MF that we’ll miss most IMO. nothing against McD, but Beverly to me seems the natural comparison in that Boston deal.

Except the deal couldn't have happened without including Bev's contact.

[winforlose]

Before long, I think people will talk about Minnesota keeping McDaniels in this trade like they did about the Celtics keeping Rondo in the Garnett trade.

Beverly is far better example had we kept him … that’s the MF that we’ll miss most IMO. nothing against McD, but Beverly to me seems the natural comparison in that Boston deal.

Except the deal couldn't have happened without including Bev's contact.

This, plus Bev is 34, while MCD is 22. MCD is also a on rookie deal while Bev is year to year for double digit millions.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Beverly is far better example had we kept him … that’s the MF that we’ll miss most IMO. nothing against McD, but Beverly to me seems the natural comparison in that Boston deal.

Young player with a bright future who is a great fit with all the stars on the team. That describes McDaniels and Rondo back in the day

Exactly. Beverley is the Ratliff, Vanderbilt the Gomes, Beasley the Jefferson. Bolmaro is Telfair.

can Garza be Doleac please

[KGdaBom]

Why are we still using the Wolves trade for Gobert thread? Shouldn't it all be the Official Rudy Gobert thread now?

[Nick K]

Beverly is far better example had we kept him … that’s the MF that we’ll miss most IMO. nothing against McD, but Beverly to me seems the natural comparison in that Boston deal.

Young player with a bright future who is a great fit with all the stars on the team. That describes McDaniels and Rondo back in the day

Exactly. Beverley is the Ratliff, Vanderbilt the Gomes, Beasley the Jefferson. Bolmaro is Telfair.

I agree. Well said Klomp.

[KGdaBom]

Young player with a bright future who is a great fit with all the stars on the team. That describes McDaniels and Rondo back in the day

Exactly. Beverley is the Ratliff, Vanderbilt the Gomes, Beasley the Jefferson. Bolmaro is Telfair.

I agree. Well said Klomp.

I guess at least some of it is still talking about the trade. I still think it's time to retire this one.

[Klomp]

Exactly. Beverley is the Ratliff, Vanderbilt the Gomes, Beasley the Jefferson. Bolmaro is Telfair.

I agree. Well said Klomp.

I guess at least some of it is still talking about the trade. I still think it's time to retire this one.

We are still talking about the trade, just in comparison with a previous blockbuster.

My reason for bringing the thread back up is because the discussion was specific to the trade itself, not to Rudy Gobert individually.