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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#981 » by shangrila » Sun May 25, 2014 4:26 am

Takingbaconback wrote:Could you find one for Doug McDermott? I think he's the best shooter in this draft and like Curry, his shooting form, stroke, and release is so organic and pristine. Also you can see through McDermott's and Curry's college numbers that there is immense godly production with amazing accuracy. Stauskas had a great season this year but McDermott's and Curry's numbers are out of this world.

Curry isn't as successful as he is just because his shot is nice. He's that great because he can get it off so ridiculously quickly. I don't get the same impression from McDermott at all.
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Post#982 » by Klomp » Sun May 25, 2014 6:43 am

A good comp I saw for McDermott today was Szczerbiak. He'll put up good numbers, but way too limited in other areas. Can he be that productive with the current state of the SF position in the league? I think his likely trajectory is a NBA role player

With Stauskas, I just see much more potential. Has more than enough size to play SG, whereas McDermott is average at best at SF. I also feel like he has that "it factor." At worst, he will be a role player, but still has the upside to do more.

Remember how a couple years ago we were practically drooling over what we thought a Rubio-Shved backcourt could do?! That's the kind of impact I could easily see him having...only Stauskas can actually shoot! Stauskas is a PERFECT fit next to Rubio.
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Post#983 » by Jukeness » Sun May 25, 2014 6:59 am

Klomp wrote:Remember how a couple years ago we were practically drooling over what we thought a Rubio-Shved backcourt could do?! That's the kind of impact I could easily see him having...only Stauskas can actually shoot! Stauskas is a PERFECT fit next to Rubio.

Kevin Martin?
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Post#984 » by Klomp » Sun May 25, 2014 7:06 am

Jukeness wrote:Kevin Martin?

What about him?
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Post#985 » by Jukeness » Sun May 25, 2014 7:10 am

Klomp wrote:
Jukeness wrote:Kevin Martin?

What about him?

Why is Stauskas the perfect fit next to Rubio? What makes him a better fit than Martin?
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Post#986 » by MinneOOPalis » Sun May 25, 2014 7:33 am

Jukeness wrote:
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Jukeness wrote:Kevin Martin?

What about him?

Why is Stauskas the perfect fit next to Rubio? What makes him a better fit than Martin?



He can shoot, dribble, and pass. This makes him better.
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Post#987 » by Feilong » Sun May 25, 2014 7:38 am

He doesn't hug the ball. He is like JJ Redick + he can go to the basket.
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Post#988 » by Feilong » Sun May 25, 2014 9:44 am

For those who like Saric.
Last night 36p 15R.
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Post#989 » by Takingbaconback » Sun May 25, 2014 9:54 am

shangrila wrote:
Takingbaconback wrote:Could you find one for Doug McDermott? I think he's the best shooter in this draft and like Curry, his shooting form, stroke, and release is so organic and pristine. Also you can see through McDermott's and Curry's college numbers that there is immense godly production with amazing accuracy. Stauskas had a great season this year but McDermott's and Curry's numbers are out of this world.

Curry isn't as successful as he is just because his shot is nice. He's that great because he can get it off so ridiculously quickly. I don't get the same impression from McDermott at all.

I strongly disagree. I think he's got a quick release along with a very organic one fell swoop motion. Everythings just always in sync which is always important when you are putting up a quick hurried shot. I make these observations on my own but every draft site points out his very quick and pure release as well.
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Post#990 » by Takingbaconback » Sun May 25, 2014 9:59 am

Klomp wrote:A good comp I saw for McDermott today was Szczerbiak. He'll put up good numbers, but way too limited in other areas. Can he be that productive with the current state of the SF position in the league? I think his likely trajectory is a NBA role player

With Stauskas, I just see much more potential. Has more than enough size to play SG, whereas McDermott is average at best at SF. I also feel like he has that "it factor." At worst, he will be a role player, but still has the upside to do more.

Remember how a couple years ago we were practically drooling over what we thought a Rubio-Shved backcourt could do?! That's the kind of impact I could easily see him having...only Stauskas can actually shoot! Stauskas is a PERFECT fit next to Rubio.


I think McDermott is a much better shooter than wally but I get the comparison. I think dougie will be one of the best 3 point shooters in the league with a deadly midrange game as well.

That Stauskas point is exactly why i would love to see Klay as a twolf. He, beal, and now stephenson make up the top 3 SG of the future and while Stauskas is similar to martin on defense, klay is a tough defender at the 2. Klay is taller, much strongee, and proven in the NBA as a rising star imo. If wolves end up with stauskas Ill be happy as well but I love me some Klay Thompson. I think he is just beginning to scratch the surface as an all around scorer and rubio is just the guy to bring it out of him.
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Post#991 » by Takingbaconback » Sun May 25, 2014 10:10 am

Also McDermott played at 220lbs at creighton. He will probably need to shed 10-15 pounds to strictly be a SF, which will make him faster on defense. I really doubt he is going to play PF when he measured just under 6 7 without shoes just for some information.
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Post#992 » by Jukeness » Sun May 25, 2014 4:15 pm

Sakuragi_ wrote:
Jukeness wrote:
Klomp wrote:What about him?

Why is Stauskas the perfect fit next to Rubio? What makes him a better fit than Martin?



He can shoot, dribble, and pass. This makes him better.

The perfect fit next to Rubio would be someone who can shoot and drive, that's definitely not Stauskas. Harris would fit with Rubio better than Stauskas.

What's with all the love for another white guy that cant play defense? That's exactly what we dont need. In my eyes, your shooting guard has to be able to defend. I think defense for a SG is more important than for every other position.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#993 » by minimus » Sun May 25, 2014 4:17 pm

Feilong wrote:For those who like Saric.
Last night 36p 15R.


Good pick and pop game, can fill Dante role easily. Can be effective with Rubio. Understands angles and positioning, but no athleticism to explore pick and roll at 100%. I like his motor and competitiveness.
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Post#994 » by Klomp » Sun May 25, 2014 4:55 pm

Takingbaconback wrote:Also McDermott played at 220lbs at creighton. He will probably need to shed 10-15 pounds to strictly be a SF, which will make him faster on defense.

Pretty sure Wally played at 230+ most of his career.

Losing weight won't make him a better defender.
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Post#995 » by dunkonu21 » Sun May 25, 2014 4:56 pm

Saric or McDermott would be very good for us. They are my clear favs after Wiggins.
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Post#996 » by dunkonu21 » Sun May 25, 2014 5:10 pm

Klomp wrote:
Takingbaconback wrote:Also McDermott played at 220lbs at creighton. He will probably need to shed 10-15 pounds to strictly be a SF, which will make him faster on defense.

Pretty sure Wally played at 230+ most of his career.

Losing weight won't make him a better defender.



If he loses body fat it absolutely will make him a better defender.
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Post#997 » by Mattya » Sun May 25, 2014 5:20 pm

Can losing weight make you a better defender, sure. Losing weight by itself doesn't make you a better defender. Example Derrick Williams.
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Post#998 » by Takingbaconback » Sun May 25, 2014 5:37 pm

Klomp wrote:
Takingbaconback wrote:Also McDermott played at 220lbs at creighton. He will probably need to shed 10-15 pounds to strictly be a SF, which will make him faster on defense.

Pretty sure Wally played at 230+ most of his career.

Losing weight won't make him a better defender.


It won't make him a better defender in technical sense, but losing weight makes you faster and lighter on foot. 10-15 pounds will put him at 205-10 which is substantially heavier than Brewer and around where Kyle Korver plays.
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Post#999 » by minimus » Sun May 25, 2014 5:38 pm

Let me ask this way: if McDermott = Korver, would you trade #13 for Korver?
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Post#1000 » by Takingbaconback » Sun May 25, 2014 5:42 pm

Jukeness wrote:
Sakuragi_ wrote:
Jukeness wrote:Why is Stauskas the perfect fit next to Rubio? What makes him a better fit than Martin?



He can shoot, dribble, and pass. This makes him better.

The perfect fit next to Rubio would be someone who can shoot and drive, that's definitely not Stauskas. Harris would fit with Rubio better than Stauskas.

What's with all the love for another white guy that cant play defense? That's exactly what we dont need. In my eyes, your shooting guard has to be able to defend. I think defense for a SG is more important than for every other position.


That's one of the problems for the wolves right now. Because of Rubio, you got to get a great two way SG who can be dynamite on offense and play good defense. I'd argue I rather have our SG be great at offense than defense if I had to choose because Rubio + Great defender with limited offensive capabilities = one of the lowest scoring teams in the league. I think Rubio could be an amazing catalyst but if starters aren't suited to his strengths, he becomes a big liability.

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