If we got Wall, possible Flynn and Rubio trades...?

Krapinsky · Post #1 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:44 pm

I had a few ideas, I was wondering what other people thought. I assume most would try to package Rubio for Turner, but I don't know how realistic that is. It seems like Turner would fit on just about every team in the lottery.

Rubio to the Clippers for #8 + Future MN 1st returned. LAC could sell a max free agent on joining the likes of Gordon/Griffin/Jordan AND Rubio.

Flynn to the Pacers for #10. This has been thrown out there. I'm not sure how interested the Pacers would be though. Would they rather have Collison or the younger Flynn?

Any other better ideas/thoughts?

Esohny · Post #2 » by **Esohny** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:51 pm

I don't think there's a realistic trade for Turner short of trading down from #1 and giving up Wall.

Post #3 » by **The J Rocka** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:35 am

Any trade to get Turner would be us packaging Rubio/draft picks or Flynn/Love, realistically if we get Wall and keep him, trade anybody to grab Favors and we will have to look at FA or take a player like P. George or X. Henry if available later in draft

Post #4 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:54 am

I was told that we envision RUbio and Wall working together. Take it for what it is worth.

cpfsf · Post #5 » by **cpfsf** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:09 am

If we get the number one pick, I think we shouldn't keep both Rubio and Wall. Would Wall really even compare to Turner at shooting guard (granted that it will be limited minutes)? We could simply trade down for a person who looks made for the triangle. I know it's nitpicking, but I really liked that comment Turner tweeted or twittered or w/e. Imagine all the stories that we will hear if Kahn keeps Wall. Do you really want to subject yourself to that?

Flynn stays (for now). I consider Flynn to be a 6th man. He wouldn't be a great starter, but he can be a huge spark on the bench. So if it's a debate between keeping Rubio and keeping Wall, I would keep Rubio. Rubio won't have high value, so we'd be trading low. Other teams need Wall. We need Turner. That trade fits like ... um ... OJ's glove?

Breakdown777 · Post #6 » by **Breakdown777** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:10 am

revprodeji wrote:I was told that we envision RUbio and Wall working together. Take it for what it is worth.

Of course we do. It's okay if 2 PGs play together, so long as we never ever ever have 2 PF play together.

shangrila · Post #7 » by **shangrila** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:22 am

Well, Sacramento said Rubio measured out at 6-5 with 6-7 arms, so he could technically play and guard shooting guards.

Besides, I'd rather keep Rubio if the team got Wall until next year and trade him for a lottery pick then. Someone will be unhappy with where they ended up and then you could use him to nab a wing player with plenty of potential.

lobishome · Post #8 » by **lobishome** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:44 am

This is a unrealistic situation, Isn't? All the teams will prefer Wall to Turner except Minnesota because they already has Rubio's rights and they will prefer Turner.

If Minnesota has the first pick, they will pick Turner, and if Minnesota has the second pick probably Turner still would be available. First or second round are around 1/3 of posibilities. Otherwise, nor Wall nor Turner.

I supose you are suggesting if Minnesota has the first pick then they could get Wall. I think the same as Rev, if Minny get Wall, Rubio won't be traded.

I think the Wolves are emulating Blazers with the Fernández's situation. Minny's fans have read a lot of Rubio and most of them would be pissed if Ricky is traded without play any game with the Wolves jacket, as Kahn promised. It's a great value, but nobody wants trade him.

Foye · Post #9 » by **Foye** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:49 am

I'd take Wall and see if Rubio/Wall can work together unless we can trade down for Turner + gain additional assets.

southern wolf · Post #10 » by **southern wolf** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:54 am

Breakdown777 wrote:
revprodeji wrote:I was told that we envision RUbio and Wall working together. Take it for what it is worth.

Of course we do. It's okay if 2 PGs play together, so long as we never ever ever have 2 PF play together.

It's going to be an interesting off-season. Kahn's not going to leave the office.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #11 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:33 am

Krapinsky wrote:Rubio to the Clippers for #8 + Future MN 1st returned. LAC could sell a max free agent on joining the likes of Gordon/Griffin/Jordan AND Rubio. ?

NO thanks.

shrink · Post #12 » by **shrink** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:35 am

lobishome wrote:This is a unrealistic situation, Isn't? All the teams will prefer Wall to Turner except Minnesota because they already has Rubio's rights and they will prefer Turner.

If Minnesota has the first pick, they will pick Turner....

Wall is too lucrative to pass up, plus he has a better chance of becoming a superstar than Turner. I can't see MIN passing up Wall over Turner.

jade_hippo · Post #13 » by **jade_hippo** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:52 am

a backcourt of Rubio/Wall/Brewer doesn't sound too terrible, can throw a lot of looks at you. A bench of Flynn/Sessions and Wayne leaves a lot to be desired defensively, but its a good start.

Post #14 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:21 pm

a backcourt of Rubio/Wall/Brewer doesn't sound too terrible, can throw a lot of looks at you. A bench of Flynn/Sessions and Wayne leaves a lot to be desired defensively, but its a good start.

I would assume Rubio/Wall means goodbye to both Flynn and Sessions.

karch34 · Post #15 » by **karch34** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:49 pm

It depends on who gets #2, but I would look at packaging Rubio and other pieces for Turner. Tough to say what as we don't know how it plays out. I'd consider another young wing player as well in a deal of Rubio. Wall and Rubio might be able to play together, but we'd be in a position where we could be set at PG and one of our wing positions for years and I'd prefer that route. Get our core established rather than have a glut of PG and PF that you'll have to move eventually anyways.

I'd consider moving Wall for Turner if we got something significant for moving down. I think Rubio for Clippers first and our first returned is a pretty good deal, but I'd try to get a little more. I'd definitely look at packaging one of our later picks for a future pick as well in the Clippers scenario.

dunkonu21 · Post #16 » by **dunkonu21** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:34 pm

Any trade that happens in this scenario needs to happen before the draft.

Italia Raps Fan · Post #17 » by **Italia Raps Fan** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:41 pm

I want to know why NBA fans keep saying Rubio is 6'5"? This is quite ridiculous. No one in Europe would claim he is 6'5". He is 6'3" in shoes. This is a fact and there is no need to keep saying he is 6'5". Let me just state that I have personally stood next to him and Juan Carlos Navarro and talked to them both.

Rubio is eye to eye with me and I am 6'3" in shoes. Navarro is a solid inch at the very least, if not more than that, taller than both me and Rubio. I have never seen one NBA fan ever describe Navarro as anything but "very undersized" for a SG and he is noticeably taller than Rubio is and much bigger build wise and in the body.

I just wanted to say that because I keep seeing NBA fans claim Rubio is 6'5". I am sorry, but there is no way in hell that he is 6'5". He is 6'3" in shoes. He is nowhere near being 6'5" in shoes. There is no way that he would play SG in the NBA. He is way too small to play SG in the NBA. Navarro is considerably taller and bigger than Rubio is.

SO_MONEY · Post #18 » by **SO_MONEY** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:52 pm

Esohny wrote:I don't think there's a realistic trade for Turner short of trading down from #1 and giving up Wall.

Love and Rubio

Devilzsidewalk · Post #19 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:58 pm

Italia Raps Fan wrote:I want to know why NBA fans keep saying Rubio is 6'5"? This is quite ridiculous. No one in Europe would claim he is 6'5". He is 6'3" in shoes. This is a fact and there is no need to keep saying he is 6'5". Let me just state that I have personally stood next to him and Juan Carlos Navarro and talked to them both.

Rubio is eye to eye with me and I am 6'3" in shoes. Navarro is a solid inch at the very least, if not more than that, taller than both me and Rubio. I have never seen one NBA fan ever describe Navarro as anything but "very undersized" for a SG and he is noticeably taller than Rubio is and much bigger build wise and in the body.

I just wanted to say that because I keep seeing NBA fans claim Rubio is 6'5". I am sorry, but there is no way in hell that he is 6'5". He is 6'3" in shoes. He is nowhere near being 6'5" in shoes. There is no way that he would play SG in the NBA. He is way too small to play SG in the NBA. Navarro is considerably taller and bigger than Rubio is.

no, you're wrong, he's definitely 6'5". We were hanging out together once doing 100% heterosexual stuff only and I remember my eye level was even w/ his stomach when I was on my knees and so if I calculate my height when on my knees vs the average person's leg length being 47-49% of their height, then that makes Rubio at least 6'5"

you just been MythBustered buddy

Krapinsky · Post #20 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:01 pm

Italia Raps Fan wrote:I want to know why NBA fans keep saying Rubio is 6'5"? This is quite ridiculous. No one in Europe would claim he is 6'5". He is 6'3" in shoes. This is a fact and there is no need to keep saying he is 6'5". Let me just state that I have personally stood next to him and Juan Carlos Navarro and talked to them both.

Rubio is eye to eye with me and I am 6'3" in shoes. Navarro is a solid inch at the very least, if not more than that, taller than both me and Rubio. I have never seen one NBA fan ever describe Navarro as anything but "very undersized" for a SG and he is noticeably taller than Rubio is and much bigger build wise and in the body.

I just wanted to say that because I keep seeing NBA fans claim Rubio is 6'5". I am sorry, but there is no way in hell that he is 6'5". He is 6'3" in shoes. He is nowhere near being 6'5" in shoes. There is no way that he would play SG in the NBA. He is way too small to play SG in the NBA. Navarro is considerably taller and bigger than Rubio is.

You're just mad because he wouldn't make out with you.

But really, all joking aside, I don't think anyone here envisions him as a SG. In all pics he looks about the same exact height as Navarro. I've heard he's now 6'4-5" in shoes (and has grew one or two inches in the last year), but I haven't seen anything documenting that like Shangrila alluded to. If he played next to Wall at times, I'd imagine Wall would usually guard opposing SG's, but a lot of it would depend on matchups -- i.e. against Utah you would probably put Wall on Deron Williams and Rubio on Korver.