MN/TOR

Dewey · Post #1 » by **Dewey** » Thu May 6, 2010 2:35 pm

Jefferson/Gomes/#16/#23 to Toronto

Bosh to MN

Toronto acquires Jefferson to soften the blow for Bosh who's likely out. Toronto would still have #10, #16, #23 draft picks to utilize. They could probably trade up to get Cousins or Favors if they wanted to.

Wolves get Bosh:
Flynn, Sessions
Turner, Ellington
Brewer, Wilkins
Bosh, Love
Milicic, Hollins

cpfsf · Post #2 » by **cpfsf** » Thu May 6, 2010 2:54 pm

Do we really have to trade picks? I'm not sure what the competition would be for Bosh, but I just assumed Big Al would have made Calderon, Bargnani, and Turkoglu more effective because teams would be double teaming Jefferson leaving those guys open for easy 3 pointers.

Krapinsky · Post #3 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu May 6, 2010 3:23 pm

Why stop there?

Pekovic + Flynn + Love for Dwayne Wade

Post #4 » by **C.lupus** » Thu May 6, 2010 3:24 pm

If we did this, i'd like to try to keep one of the picks to pick up a backup PF, then trade Love for Wes Johnson or Aminu. Love backing up Bosh seems redundant and unnecessary.

Flynn, Sessions
Turner, Ellington
Johnson or Aminu, Brewer
Bosh, Seraphin?
Milicic, Pekovic, Hollins

shrink · Post #5 » by **shrink** » Thu May 6, 2010 3:30 pm

C.lupus wrote:If we did this, i'd like to try to keep one of the picks to pick up a backup PF, then trade Love for Wes Johnson or Aminu. Love backing up Bosh seems redundant and unnecessary

Pekovic would be a nice replacement for the pick, as he would fit very well with Bargnani flitting around the outside.

While I put our chances of getting LeBron at 0%, I might go as high as 1% for Bosh. LeBron has maintained he wants to go someplace to win. Bosh has said he wants to go someplace to "be the man." We'd really only have a chance at getting him at an acceptable price if Bosh was consciously ruling out rivals, and I don't think that's likely.

Varejao17 · Post #6 » by **Varejao17** » Thu May 6, 2010 4:10 pm

I'd do the trade without the picks...

Dewey · Post #7 » by **Dewey** » Thu May 6, 2010 4:47 pm

I considered leaving the picks out, but ultimately, I feel we'd need to give them if we really had interest in Bosh.

Picks 16 and 23 could result in a very good player, but I feel Bosh is an upgrade and would fit well here. Plus, we still need to account for drafting Turner? while adding Pekovic this summer and Rubio 2011 ... there is only so much youth that we can be accountable for.

Potentially heading into 2011...
Rubio
Turner
Brewer
Bosh
Milicic

Flynn, Sessions, Ellington, Love, and Hollins would be a great bench.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #8 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Thu May 6, 2010 4:55 pm

I wish we could snag Bosh, but I think if he made a list of teams in the NBA he wants to play for, we'd be bottom 3 for sure, maybe last

Krapinsky · Post #9 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu May 6, 2010 5:11 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I wish we could snag Bosh, but I think if he made a list of teams in the NBA he wants to play for, we'd be bottom 3 for sure, maybe last

Ha, so true. Maybe second to last, after the Raptors though.

cpfsf · Post #10 » by **cpfsf** » Thu May 6, 2010 5:22 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I wish we could snag Bosh, but I think if he made a list of teams in the NBA he wants to play for, we'd be bottom 3 for sure, maybe last

Remove any mention of our teams record. Walk Bosh into a room with a piece of paper that says this.

Value
Rubio >>> Calderon - Better in value and arguably skill
Pick >>> DeRozan - Better in value and arguably skill
Brewer >>> Turkoglu - is Turk's game really worth about 11 million per year?
Love >>> Bargnani - Love's still on his rookie contract, but I'd probably trade him anyway
cap space >>>>>>>>> no cap space
Flynn & Pekovic & Darko >>> ???

dunkonu21 · Post #11 » by **dunkonu21** » Thu May 6, 2010 5:45 pm

Bosh is overrated

Foye · Post #12 » by **Foye** » Thu May 6, 2010 6:37 pm

I don't think you give up that much in a sign and trade deal.

Krapinsky · Post #13 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu May 6, 2010 6:50 pm

cpfsf wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:I wish we could snag Bosh, but I think if he made a list of teams in the NBA he wants to play for, we'd be bottom 3 for sure, maybe last

Remove any mention of our teams record. Walk Bosh into a room with a piece of paper that says this.

Value
Rubio >>> Calderon - Better in value and arguably skill
Pick >>> DeRozan - Better in value and arguably skill
Brewer >>> Turkoglu - is Turk's game really worth about 11 million per year?
Love >>> Bargnani - Love's still on his rookie contract, but I'd probably trade him anyway
cap space >>>>>>>>> no cap space
Flynn & Pekovic & Darko >>> ???

Bosh sees your piece of paper, turns it over, and scribbles this

Miami > Minneapolis
Florida tax < Minnesota tax
Southbeach hardbodies > Minnesota fat chicks
Pat Riley's rings > Timberwolves' rings
Dwayne Wade > Your Roster

Dewey · Post #14 » by **Dewey** » Thu May 6, 2010 7:04 pm

Bosh adds athleticism as well as a 20-10 guy himself.

I also agree that MN does not likely sit atop his list of places to play, however, if he really wants to be the man ... he's got a home in MN. While he could be our centerpiece, it's most probable that he will opt to join a team that sells him the idea they need just one more piece ... and he's that final piece.

Center Piece vs. Final Piece (what the ...

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Dewey · Post #15 » by **Dewey** » Thu May 6, 2010 7:12 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
cpfsf wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:I wish we could snag Bosh, but I think if he made a list of teams in the NBA he wants to play for, we'd be bottom 3 for sure, maybe last

Remove any mention of our teams record. Walk Bosh into a room with a piece of paper that says this.

Value
Rubio >>> Calderon - Better in value and arguably skill
Pick >>> DeRozan - Better in value and arguably skill
Brewer >>> Turkoglu - is Turk's game really worth about 11 million per year?
Love >>> Bargnani - Love's still on his rookie contract, but I'd probably trade him anyway
cap space >>>>>>>>> no cap space
Flynn & Pekovic & Darko >>> ???

Bosh sees your piece of paper, turns it over, and scribbles this

Miami > Minneapolis
Florida tax < Minnesota tax
Southbeach hardbodies > Minnesota fat chicks
Pat Riley's rings > Timberwolves' rings
Dwayne Wade > Your Roster

Yep, there is some truth to that, but most anyone can witness the ole leather skinned chicks in south florida look like 5 miles of bad road when they hit 35... get'em when they're young.

I can see Bosh opting to play with Wade as he's a great proven player ... if the $$ is close, these guys prefer to "team up" rather than be the man.

cpfsf · Post #16 » by **cpfsf** » Thu May 6, 2010 7:23 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Bosh sees your piece of paper, turns it over, and scribbles this

Miami > Minneapolis
Florida tax < Minnesota tax
Southbeach hardbodies > Minnesota fat chicks
Pat Riley's rings > Timberwolves' rings
Dwayne Wade > Your Roster

Those chicks prefer the term curves.

Post #17 » by **The J Rocka** » Thu May 6, 2010 7:35 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
cpfsf wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:I wish we could snag Bosh, but I think if he made a list of teams in the NBA he wants to play for, we'd be bottom 3 for sure, maybe last

Remove any mention of our teams record. Walk Bosh into a room with a piece of paper that says this.

Value
Rubio >>> Calderon - Better in value and arguably skill
Pick >>> DeRozan - Better in value and arguably skill
Brewer >>> Turkoglu - is Turk's game really worth about 11 million per year?
Love >>> Bargnani - Love's still on his rookie contract, but I'd probably trade him anyway
cap space >>>>>>>>> no cap space
Flynn & Pekovic & Darko >>> ???

Bosh sees your piece of paper, turns it over, and scribbles this

Miami > Minneapolis
Florida tax < Minnesota tax
Southbeach hardbodies > Minnesota fat chicks
Pat Riley's rings > Timberwolves' rings
Dwayne Wade > Your Roster

Chicago Bulls > Miami Heat = Wade in Bulls uniform

Esohny · Post #18 » by **Esohny** » Thu May 6, 2010 7:47 pm

It would be tough to turn down all that extra money from Miami if/when they sign a 2nd max guy.

Post #19 » by **The J Rocka** » Thu May 6, 2010 8:10 pm

The Heat have NOTHING. Bulls are one star SG-SF away from winning a ring. Heat got KILLED in playoffs. Nobody did anything but Wade. Okay if they add a Bosh and re-sign Wade, they will make it to the 2nd round or Eastern Finals (if even).

Krapinsky · Post #20 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu May 6, 2010 8:31 pm

J_Era_3 wrote:The Heat have NOTHING. Bulls are one star SG-SF away from winning a ring. Heat got KILLED in playoffs. Nobody did anything but Wade. Okay if they add a Bosh and re-sign Wade, they will make it to the 2nd round or Eastern Finals (if even).

They'd definitely be championship contenders, a far cry from Bosh in a T-Wolves uni.