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If you could determine how the wolves play would you scrap the triangle or stick with it? If you would make any changes what would they be? Limited triangle? More pick and roll? Half court? What would be your style of play?

Calinks wrote:If you could determine how the wolves play would you scrap the triangle or stick with it? If you would make any changes what would they be? Limited triangle? More pick and roll? Half court? What would be your style of play?

Shaq played and excelled in the triangle. I see no reason to think Cousins or Jefferson cannot. No reason to scrap it.

Krapinsky wrote:Shaq played and excelled in the triangle. I see no reason to think Cousins or Jefferson cannot. No reason to scrap it.

Yeah, because theres no difference between a top 5 center of all time and freakin' Al Jefferson or Demarcus Cousins....

Having said that, keep the triangle, don't blame it.

wow, Klomp what a prick response.

You mean stop using it 20% of the time?

revprodeji wrote:wow, Klomp what a prick response.

Sorry. You get those from me every once in a while.....along with some horrendous trade offers.

Shaq was a very good passer averaging 2.6 assist per game for his career and between 3 and 4 per game in his prime with the Lakers. I don't see Jefferson or Cousins with that kind of passing ability.

Dan's with the Wolves wrote:Shaq was a very good passer averaging 2.6 assist per game for his career and between 3 and 4 per game in his prime with the Lakers. I don't see Jefferson or Cousins with that kind of passing ability.

I don't know. From what I've read, Cousins was apparently a great passer in HS, and he showed flashes of that passing ability at Kentucky. On top of that, Bynum is currently the starting C on a championship level Triangle team, and he's not much of a passer.

AQuintus wrote:On top of that, Bynum is currently the starting C on a championship level Triangle team, and he's not much of a passer.

See Gasol, Pau.

Klomp wrote:
See Gasol, Pau.

I looked up Gasol,Pau in the dictionary and I found "The guy who is currently the starting POWER FORWARD for the defending championship LA Lakers."

I still don't think the triangle was the best offense for this team last season. It's hard to tell what our roster will be in a month or two, but I only hope that Rambis is flexible. If something doesn't work, than I hope he tries something else.

revprodeji wrote:wow, Klomp what a prick response.

He's just mad about me upsetting his Aminu tweener status denial

Klomp wrote:

Krapinsky wrote:Shaq played and excelled in the triangle. I see no reason to think Cousins or Jefferson cannot. No reason to scrap it.

Yeah, because theres no difference between a top 5 center of all time and freakin' Al Jefferson or Demarcus Cousins....

Having said that, keep the triangle, don't blame it.

I'm not sure where I implied either player was the next Shaq. My point is that you can run the triangle around a #1 half court dominant post option effectively. The triangle did not hold Shaq back. If anything it made him more effective. The key to the triangle is taking advantage of double teams, making quick passes, and finding the open man, or best one on one matchup.

Krapinsky wrote:[
I'm not sure where I implied either player was the next Shaq. My point is that you can run the triangle around a #1 half court dominant post option effectively. The triangle did not hold Shaq back. If anything it made him more effective. The key to the triangle is taking advantage of double teams, making quick passes, and finding the open man, or best one on one matchup.

Which neither Cousins or Jefferson does very well.

Dan's with the Wolves wrote:

Krapinsky wrote:[
I'm not sure where I implied either player was the next Shaq. My point is that you can run the triangle around a #1 half court dominant post option effectively. The triangle did not hold Shaq back. If anything it made him more effective. The key to the triangle is taking advantage of double teams, making quick passes, and finding the open man, or best one on one matchup.

Which neither Cousins or Jefferson does very well.

Very true w/ Jefferson. This is something Rambis has him working on. Regardless, it's clear we're not scrapping the triangle for Jefferson. Re Cousins, I don't think that's the case. At Kentucky, his lack of passing was likely be design. He had no reason to pass. If he got the ball near the basket it was in his team's best interest for him to go hard to the basket. If he didn't score, chances were he was going to get to the line.

Well if you watch the Lakers of today they use the post alot. Not just with bigs either, the post seems to be an integral part of the triangle. Maybe because it allows players to see the other offensive players moving in the triangle for pass outs. Also I don't think its impossible to teach anyone how to pass out of the post. They may not be as crafty at it as others but they can learn to see the obvious plays. Also, when you got Darko out there you got a "point guard in the paint" as Al Jefferson puts it.

Dan's with the Wolves wrote:

Krapinsky wrote:[
I'm not sure where I implied either player was the next Shaq. My point is that you can run the triangle around a #1 half court dominant post option effectively. The triangle did not hold Shaq back. If anything it made him more effective. The key to the triangle is taking advantage of double teams, making quick passes, and finding the open man, or best one on one matchup.

Which neither Cousins or Jefferson does very well.

From DX 2009 write up ---

"Even more impressive though was Cousins’ ability to pass the ball. Constantly keeping his head up, he was able to find the open man on a regular basis when faced with a double team. The stat sheet reflected this based on his 5 assists with one lone turnover, and the senior could have had a handful more assists had his teammates done a better job of finishing. This ability is going to translate immediately at the collegiate level due to the fact that at all of the programs recruiting him (with the exception of Wake Forest and Louisville), he will likely be the focal point of the post offense and will certainly be faced with multiple defenders consistently."

From 2007 write up --

"Cousins showed off the game of the skilled power forward that he is finally at the LeBron camp, seeming to finally get it through his head that he is much better suited on the blocks then he his hanging around the perimeter all day. The passing and ball handling skills that he showed off were unbelievable for a player standing 6’9 and nearly 250 lbs. He is a nightmare to guard on the offensive end, able to take slower defenders off of the dribble from the wing, but also able to kill you in post with his remarkably soft touch."

I'm hopping on the Cousins bandwagon. Get the big lug over here, and trade one of the similar pieces for some picks/wing help.

And YES, scrap the triangle. Either that or completely overhaul the roster AGAIN.