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Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:23 am
by Breakdown777
This seems like the next logical comparison thread. If this one does not garner much discussion, feel free to lock or put in the "prospects" thread.
I think I'll just settle for whichever SG/SF drops at 16. If we get Turner, I'm 100% fine with taking whomever drops here. If we end up taking Cuz, then I wouldn't be opposed to combining 16 and 23 (or something like Pek or Sessions or Gomes) for a legit wing talent.
Oh, and just because I used the word "garner":

Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:02 am
by John Doe [MIN]
Can I vote 'neither?'
I'd prefer trading up for George or Henry to Babbitt or Hayward at 16, but I'd prefer Anderson or Whiteside at 16 to either option.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:25 am
by shangrila
I don't think we'd have to trade up to get either George or Henry, at least one of them will be there at 16. But if neither are there I'd just take Babbitt I guess.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 11:08 am
by IAmTheTruth
George and Henry are gonzo by 16. Just watch. People are whispering George as high as 8 and Henry at 10. They will not be there.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:58 pm
by moss_is_1
Yeah the Clippers will probably take one of them, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Milwaukee take one at 15.(I think they pick there anyway.)
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:43 pm
by jade_hippo
,Didn't Babbitt have a really impressive combine? I have seen him sliding up the mocks lately too, Whiteside seems to be dropping, I guess he was a poor interview
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:02 pm
by Krapinsky
moss_is_1 wrote:Yeah the Clippers will probably take one of them, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Milwaukee take one at 15.(I think they pick there anyway.)
Pretty much every team in the 8-15 range could be in the mix.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:23 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
I don't want a non-athletic SF unless its with the 23 pick. With so much crazy athletic SFs in this draft, that'd be super disappointing to get one of those 2
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:36 pm
by Krapinsky
Devilzsidewalk wrote:I don't want a non-athletic SF unless its with the 23 pick. With so much crazy athletic SFs in this draft, that'd be super disappointing to get one of those 2
It wouldn't be bad to have a pure shooter though. With Rubio dishing, and Al, Pekovic, Cousins, whoever in the post, we could certainly use a few guys like that and Babbit/Hayward are certainly an upgrade over Ellingotn for that role.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:04 pm
by KariTakko
I'd rather trade up for Henry or George.
From Kahn's standpoint, if he "knows" one of George/Henry is going to make an impact in the league, I hope he goes for quality over quantity in this case.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:05 pm
by karch34
With Brewer I think we have our athletic SF, but it would be nice to have a shooter at SF. Not sure if I think it's an upgrade over Ellington as much as a compliment to him as a shooter at another position. Ellington and Babbit/Hayward off the bench would stretch the D and allow for some different looks.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:28 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Krapinsky wrote:Devilzsidewalk wrote:I don't want a non-athletic SF unless its with the 23 pick. With so much crazy athletic SFs in this draft, that'd be super disappointing to get one of those 2
It wouldn't be bad to have a pure shooter though. With Rubio dishing, and Al, Pekovic, Cousins, whoever in the post, we could certainly use a few guys like that and Babbit/Hayward are certainly an upgrade over Ellingotn for that role.
Henry and George are great shooters, and athletic
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:45 pm
by Esohny
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Krapinsky wrote:Devilzsidewalk wrote:I don't want a non-athletic SF unless its with the 23 pick. With so much crazy athletic SFs in this draft, that'd be super disappointing to get one of those 2
It wouldn't be bad to have a pure shooter though. With Rubio dishing, and Al, Pekovic, Cousins, whoever in the post, we could certainly use a few guys like that and Babbit/Hayward are certainly an upgrade over Ellingotn for that role.
Henry and George are great shooters, and athletic
True. I'd much rather have either one than Babbit and Hayward.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:52 pm
by Krapinsky
I agree with all that. But if for some reason Henry or George are not obtainable, I would be happy with Babbit or Hayward as a consolation.
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 7:24 pm
by younggunsmn
Who says Henry and George go first? Any of the 4 could go as high as 8 to the clippers.
Babbitt's floor might be 12 to the Grizzlies. They could easily go 8-9-10-11.
I'm OK with trading up for any of Henry, George, or Babbitt.
Hayward sucks the big dong. Talking heads call him a great shooter when he shot 29.4% from the COLLEGE 3-point line last year. Not to mention he's as thin as Corey Brewer without the lateral quickness. If the Wolves draft him at 16 I may have another Mayo moment. Wolves have a terrible history of drafting guys on their tournament stock.
Babbitt is a 50-40-90 guy with a great handle, prototypical size, good athleticism, good rebounder, and a really high BBIQ. If he can play even average D at SF he is going to be a really good player in this league. He's the perfect offensive fit for a triangle SF too with good passing and post skills.
Henry is the same type of player, except a SG.
George clearly has the most upside, maybe of anyone outside the top 4.
Personally I would have no problem packaging 16+23 for any of those 3. Quality over quantity (I've been preaching that for 2 years now). We need 2 legitimate starters out of this draft, we have enough role players. Backup PG is filled. Backup wing is filled (Brewer). We have potentially 4 starting quality bigs before the draft even starts. I'll be very disappointed if we don't trade up from 16. I have a feeling some of the late-lottery bigs are going to drop (Patterson, Orton, Whiteside, Motiejunas).
Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:28 pm
by funkatron101
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Re: Babbitt/Hayward vs. trading up for Henry/George
Posted: Thu Jun 3, 2010 11:26 pm
by skorff26
It all depends on what it would cost to move up. 16+23 to move up might interest me... I'm very tempted to sit at 16 and take whoever falls out of george/henry/babbit and if none of the do just take the BPA