12 trade ideas involving MIN and GSW - opinions needed

[Casperkid23]

I came up with 12 potential trades with the Warriors as they are seemingly a good trade partner. Anyone interested say yes or no to these various ideas, giving reasoning if you wish. A few of these trades are likely going to be seen as unfair in the minds of GS fans, and the same goes for MIN fans.

Don't say no to one because another deal I am speculating on is better and has the Timberwolves giving up less - if you'd do both, then please say yes to both (i.e. if I had posted a Love for Randolph and #6 trade as well as the Love for Randolph trade - don't say no to the 2nd just because the 1st was posted).

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph
5. Jefferson for Ellis
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins
8. Love for Wright and #6
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium)
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins

Feel free to quote the 12 and then give a bold YES or NO next to the ideas, followed by the reasoning if you wish.

Again, don't take this as I think all of these deals are balanced or that the Timberwolves should do all of these trades... just give me opinions on the ones I listed.

[karch34]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6
No. Don't like Magette at all and not very high on Wright
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6
Yes if no Darko.
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6
No
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph
No. Like Randolph, but think Monte is very over-rated, could only fit in a Nellie ball type system5. Jefferson for Ellis
No
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright
No
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins
No.
8. Love for Wright and #6
Yes
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6
Yes
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph
No
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium)
Yes
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins
Yes

[PeeDee]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 NO
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 NO
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 HELL NO
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph NO
5. Jefferson for Ellis NO
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright NO
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins NO
8. Love for Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph HELL NO
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) NO
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins NO

[dunkonu21]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 - no
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 - no
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 - no
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph - yes, looove ellis
5. Jefferson for Ellis - yes
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright - yes
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins - yes
8. Love for Wright and #6 - no
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 - maybe, adding on buke is nice, but not sure
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph - no
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) - yes
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins - heeelll no

[dunkonu21]

Peedee, I think we all have to assume Wes gone at 6 in this thread.

[[RCG]]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 - Yes
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 - Yes
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 - No
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph - Yes
5. Jefferson for Ellis - No
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright - Yes
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins - No
8. Love for Wright and #6 - Yes
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 - No
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph - No
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) - No
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins - No

[Biff Cooper]

I'm really having trouble putting value on these trades, but I'm tending to agree with PeeDee

The other day, I was playing around with something like:

Randolph, Wright, Azubuike, #33
for Gomes, Hollins, #4

Part of me thinks we're getting screwed, and part of me thinks we're screwing GS. Opinions?

[Quackenboss]

Pretty good idea. I'd do 8 and 9 as a GSW fan.

edit: oops. sorry for butting in. I thought I was responding to this on the Trade board.

[Krapinsky]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 NO
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 NO
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 NO
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph YES
5. Jefferson for Ellis NO
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright NO
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins NO
8. Love for Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph HELL NO
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) YES
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins NO

The only ones I changed from Peedee are in bold

[Wingman]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 No interest
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 Better but no
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 Terrible for us IMO
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph Yes
5. Jefferson for Ellis Yes
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright Yes
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins Yes
8. Love for Wright and #6 No
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 Close but no
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph No
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) No
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins No

[and1GS]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 NO
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 NO
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 NO
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph YES
5. Jefferson for Ellis NO
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright NO
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins NO
8. Love for Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph HELL NO
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) YES
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins NO

The only ones I changed from Peedee are in bold

Just wondering, are you not a fan of Love? I'm not informed on how Minny fans view him but my general impression has been that they love the guy.

4 is just not feasible from the Warriors end btw.

[Krapinsky]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 NO
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 NO
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 NO
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph YES
5. Jefferson for Ellis NO
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright NO
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins NO
8. Love for Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 If Wes Johnson is there @ 6, YES
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph HELL NO
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) YES
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins NO

The only ones I changed from Peedee are in bold

Just wondering, are you not a fan of Love? I'm not informed on how Minny fans view him but my general impression has been that they love the guy.

4 is just not feasible from the Warriors end btw.

I'd prefer to keep Al over Love and I'm the biggest proponent of Randolph on the Wolves board.

[GopherIt!]

1. Jefferson and #16 for Maggette, Wright, and #6 hell no
2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 no
3. Jefferson and #4 for Maggette, Randolph, and #6 hell no
4. Jefferson and Brewer for Ellis and Randolph no
5. Jefferson for Ellis aw hell no
6. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis, Maggette, and Wright hell no
7. Jefferson, Gomes, and Hollins for Ellis and Biedrins no
8. Love for Wright and #6 no
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 no
10. Love, Gomes, and Hollins for Maggette and Randolph hell no
11. Love for Randolph (post moratorium) hell no
12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins no

I'd say no to 1-7 of these assuming Big Al for Prince and #7 is the standard.
Wouldn't touch Maggette, so 1, 3, 6 & 10 are an ez no.
Love >>> Randolph and Love > #6, so no to 8, 9, 10 & 11
Don't want Ellis so no to 4, 5, 6, & 7.
I like Brewer, so no to 12

2 is the only one I would consider and I'm not sure I even like that one.

[John Doe [MIN]]

No to all of them. I'd reconsider 2, 8, or 9 if Wes Johnson is available at their pick.

[[RCG]]

The same poll is on the Warriors board, it's kind of funny how the consensus for them is NO to every trade

[Esohny]

The same poll is on the Warriors board, it's kind of funny how the consensus for them is NO to every trade

"Funny?"

Or "typical?"

[[RCG]]

The same poll is on the Warriors board, it's kind of funny how the consensus for them is NO to every trade

"Funny?"

Or "typical?"

Sad.

[Casperkid23]

The same poll is on the Warriors board, it's kind of funny how the consensus for them is NO to every trade

Pretty much why I did it.

[Krapinsky]

The same poll is on the Warriors board, it's kind of funny how the consensus for them is NO to every trade

They are unified in their hate for Al Jefferson. The only one I can see them being interested in is 10. That's a slam dunk for them.

[Winter Wonder]

8 & 9 are pretty decent valuewise and I would likely say yes to those, especially if Johnson was at 6, otherwise it is a tougher sell, but solid value.

8. Love for Wright and #6 = possible yes
9. Love and Gomes for Azubuike, Wright and #6 = probable yes

I'd consider #2, but probably turn it down in the end. It does very little for balancing out the roster and is maybe a push in overall on court talent. I like Wright, Beans can be solid (hmmm), #6 is nice, but where do those three fit with the roster with our current frontcourt logjam? This makes it even more crowded.

2. Jefferson and #16 for Biedrins, Wright, and #6 = probable no

Also worth considering is #12. Brewer is still a player I like on this team, Gomes is mainly a cap relief contract this summer for someone, and Hollins is a 4th big. It consolidates assets into a better asset (probably), but again, another one to toss into the frontcourt logjam. Hollins out and replaced by a guy that should get more minutes (that we may not have for him) than the player he is replacing. If Darko was for sure not coming back, maybe. But adding Cousins to the mix with Love and Jefferson still on the team, it just seems like there would be enough minutes sans another trade. If Jefferson were gone for Prince #7 and no Darko, then it makes a ton more sense.

12. Gomes, Brewer, Hollins for Biedrins = conditional no

The other trades with Maggette are a sizable no in my books. Not a fan currently with lack of durability and ugly contract. Also, not sure he fits the offense we would be trying to run. Ellis trades don't interest me either. I believe he is too small to play two guard for us. Randolph I like alot, but not at the price taks or in the deals listed.