Friday Morning GM Challenge

[Dan's with the Wolves]

A lot of you have slammed the Kahn/Ronzone/Rambis draft as bad. Here is you chance to compete for the 1st annual Dan's with the Wolves "Friday Morning GM" title.

Scenarios can be submitted up to 12 midnight CDT today. Then a poll will be conducted based on the best GM scenarios submitted.

A few rules that I will use to evaluate the scenarios.

1 you cannot invent new trades that didn't happen.

2' you can use trade that the wolves would have given a higher draft pick for the same return.

3 you can select any player remaining on the board when the wolves picked.

Good Luck to the 1st Annual "Friday Morning GM" title winner.

EDIT:

This challenge is about which of the trade opportunities that came to fruition, you as GM would have outbid the actual winner. Plus selecting alternate available players at the draft spots.

[revprodeji]

I disagree because most of our objections have to do with not getting value in the portland trade, and not making a trade involving Al to move up.

[funkatron101]

I'm confused. We get a "redo" but can't propose any different trades?

[Dan's with the Wolves]

It takes two teams to make a trade. This has to have some basis in reality. You could for example say that you would have offered New Jersey the 23rd for the 27th and 31 pick which is a better pick for NJ than the 24th they received for the 27th and 31st.

Or you could say you would have offered the 16 + 23 to NO for the 11 and MoPete which is better than the 21 and 26 they received from OKC.

this is limiited to the options that we know were available and the Wolves declined. This is not open to your fantasy fleecing of the other team's GM.

Here is a link to the AP list of trades that went down. That the wolves could have possibly offered better value to the other team.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketba ... 4305_x.htm

[funkatron101]

I would have proposed Sessions, Gomes & Babbitt for Ford & George. But since I can't, none of those seem real appealing to me.

[Dan's with the Wolves]

I disagree because most of our objections have to do with not getting value in the portland trade, and not making a trade involving Al to move up.

then you could propose the trading the 16 to the clippers for a future first which is better than the 18th they received from OKC.

If you think that was better value.

The wolves were rumored to be turned down 3 timed for Jefferson trades. The highest anyone moved up was to 11. that cost the 21 + 26 and taking on moPete.

Would you have offered better to NO? Like the 16 and 23 plus take on MoPete?

There were no takers for Al on draft nights.

[Dan's with the Wolves]

I would have proposed Sessions, Gomes & Babbitt for Ford & George. But since I can't, none of those seem real appealing to me.

For all we know the wolves proposed that and were rejected.

What we do know is the Pacers rejected all trade offers from all teams for the 10 and selected Paul George.

The only way we know that the wolves could have drafted George was to take him at 4.

Would you do that?

[Dan's with the Wolves]

I'm confused. We get a "redo" but can't propose any different trades?

You can only select trade that actually went down that you would have out bid the actual winner. you can however just keep the picks and draft someone still on the board.
Here is a possible scenario.

The Wolves make no trades and draft

Cousins at 4
James Anderson at 16
Damion James at 23
Alabi at 45
Robinson at 56

that is a feasible scenario of last nights trade.

[PHTown]

How about the #10 for Flynn trade that Kahn called an insult? I saw a couple versions of that, but if it was straight up I will slap Kahn not so much for not doing that, but for being totally arrogant and insulting about it. The value is fair. Johnny is a good back up pg, but what good is that to us?

I'm ignoring your rules and even though I don't like Johnson at 4, I'm going to do a scenario that would have been acceptable even if they did almost everything they did.

-trade Flynn for #10.
-Johnson at #4
-Henry at #10
-trade #16 again but for a future first round pick who isn't paid $5 million a year to be mediocre
-Do the 23 for 30 and 35. Pick Armon Johnson to back up the pg or Whiteside's crazy butt.
-Get the Europeans you got.
-Bring over darko and pek. Trade gomes later or simply cut him. Resign wilkins for pennies.

Your lineup:

Sessions/A. Johnson
Henry/Brewer/Ellington
W. Johnson/Brewer/Wilkins(or serbian dude should he come)
Al/Love
Darko/Pek.

That line up is simple, arguably better, and with way more upside then the one he ended up with and is cheaper by about $5 million.What a clown.

You get knock down shooting at the wings, with solid defensive potential, all on rookie conracts, still have your young veterans in brewer, wilkins, session, love and Al if that is important to you.

Plus most of your trade assets, a future pick to replace the clippers, and more salary cap room. Could have sold the 30 also, if you didn't want it instead of wasting a guaranteed contract on a 6'5" small forward

[RB10]

I would trade the 23rd pick for the 27th (Crawford) and the 31st (Pleiss) which ups the 24th offered pick. Trade Pleiss to OKC for cash considerations which did happen. I'd give up Gomes 45 and 56 for 11 and MoPete. I'd also take on Kirk Hinrich and 17 for a two future second round picks.
So picks are
4. W. Johnson
11. X. Henry
16. L. Babbitt
17. K. Seraphin
27. J. Crawford

Trade Babbitt and cash considerations to Blazers for Martell Webster

So, future starting lineup
1. Flynn, Hinrich
2. Henry, Crawford
3. Johnson, Webster
4. Jefferson, Love
5. Milicic, Seraphin

Decent I think, I might be the only timberwolves fan who likes the Webster trade so that's why I did it.

[Krapinsky]

I honestly don't see anything I like much better. Knowing that Al has such little trade value, I think I stick with Johnson.

The only things I would have considered doing differently are to have taken Seraphin at 16 and Dominique Jones at 23.

[skorff26]

#4 Cousins
#16 Babbit (keep him)
#23 for #27 and #31
#27 Whiteside
#31 Bjelica
#45 Warren
#56 Robinson

Flynn/Sessions
Brewer/Ellington/Warren
Babbit/Gomes/Robinson
Jefferson/Love/Darko
Darko/Cousins/Whiteside

-I'd also have looked into trading Gomes + 16 and moving up in the draft to get George or Henry instead of Babbit
-Also I'd look to move one of Jefferson or Love for a SG or SF

[the_bruce]

I'd probably do everything the same way save 2 things. I don't even mind the webster trade.

take whiteside @ 30 (how MN passed on him here is beyond me)
take robinson @ 56

[Foye]

I would trade the 23rd pick for the 27th (Crawford) and the 31st (Pleiss) which ups the 24th offered pick. Trade Pleiss to OKC for cash considerations which did happen. I'd give up Gomes 45 and 56 for 11 and MoPete. I'd also take on Kirk Hinrich and 17 for a two future second round picks.
So picks are
4. W. Johnson
11. X. Henry
16. L. Babbitt
17. K. Seraphin
27. J. Crawford

Trade Babbitt and cash considerations to Blazers for Martell Webster

So, future starting lineup
1. Flynn, Hinrich
2. Henry, Crawford
3. Johnson, Webster
4. Jefferson, Love
5. Milicic, Seraphin

Decent I think, I might be the only timberwolves fan who likes the Webster trade so that's why I did it.

That's not better than OKC's offer

I'll try myself:

#4 - Cousins for #5 - Johnson + #33 (or what pick the Kings had in the 2nd round)
MoPete, #11 for Ryan Hollins, Ryan Gomes, #16 and #45 (+56th if needed).
#11 - Xavier Henry
#23 - for #27 and #31
#27 - Tibor Pleiss (stays in Germany for a year or two until coming over)
#31 - Hassan Whiteside
#33 - Nemanja Bjelica
#56 - sold or added to OKC deal

[Dan's with the Wolves]

I added a poll to vote for a winner. The poll will run for 1 day.

Sorry Foye, you just missed my creation of the poll.

[Dan's with the Wolves]

The Winner of the First Annual Dan's with the Wolves' Friday Morning GM Challenge is:

Skorff26

Congratulations

#4 Cousins
#16 Babbit (keep him)
#23 for #27 and #31
#27 Whiteside
#31 Bjelica
#45 Warren
#56 Robinson

Flynn/Sessions
Brewer/Ellington/Warren
Babbit/Gomes/Robinson
Jefferson/Love/Darko
Darko/Cousins/Whiteside

-I'd also have looked into trading Gomes + 16 and moving up in the draft to get George or Henry instead of Babbit
-Also I'd look to move one of Jefferson or Love for a SG or SF