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breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:48 pm
by revprodeji
Re: breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:28 pm
by Rolf
Thanks Rev.
I agree with the poster on canis; I usually really don't like Charley Rosen, but it's always refreshing to see the triangle broken down in a systematic, x's and o's kind of way. The concept of interchangability beyond the center position rings through in our draft day moves, as well as the comment Kahn or Rambis recently made about Darko being the one long-term starter they feel confident is currently on the team.
Re: breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:48 pm
by revprodeji
yea, I think a big problem is people identify the triangle with the bulls/lakers and assume that those are exactly the type of players needed, but in reality the 1-3 is interchangeable and the posts are also. It is basically a 3-out 2-in system. (Some ways I have seen it displayed would be a 4-out, 1-in presentation). The classic "position" is going away. We just need players that fit the proper mentality, skill set, and defensive abilities.
The whole "triangle cannot work with a running team" is crap in my opinion. Every running team flows into some kind of offense. Whether it is P/R or flex or hawk or whatever. That does not make a difference.
Re: breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:09 pm
by Calinks
Well this crap better pan out because if we spend 5 years trying to build players around it and ultimately throw it out the window, I will be very disappointed.
Re: breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:45 am
by breatnach
here's a video someone posted in response to the written explaination (which is a bit dry to read through, IMO)
http://vimeo.com/1491700Edit: It seems too good to be true. The only drawback is that it's hard to learn, right? But once you've got it down, it seems pretty darn awesome! And since most of our guys are 25 or younger, that shouldn't be a problem...

Re: breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:40 am
by revprodeji
The issue is that basketball is not commonly taught this way in US youth sports. Usually it is a pattern offense that requires very little thinking and you use that offense to get your best player the ball in a position to go one on one or to set up some form of a P/R. It is bad basketball.
In part of europe it is illegal in youth basketball to run an offensive play. Kids need to learn how to play basketball. There are attempts right now to use read and react systems but they are taking time because it requires instinctive thinking that most players do not have yet. Kentucky runs the Dribble-drive which is similar in fundamentals but it is based on a strong ballhandler breaking down, where as a r-r and the triangle are based more on spacing and reacting off movement to what the defense is giving you.
I think it is a beautiful system.
Re: breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:26 pm
by TrentTuckerForever
breatnach wrote:here's a video someone posted in response to the written explaination (which is a bit dry to read through, IMO)
http://vimeo.com/1491700Edit: It seems too good to be true. The only drawback is that it's hard to learn, right? But once you've got it down, it seems pretty darn awesome! And since most of our guys are 25 or younger, that shouldn't be a problem...

Terrific stuff. Question... I lived in Chicago for most of last season so didn't see many Wolves games. Did you guys see the more of the single-guard action I've heard Rambis talk about than the two guard (with the "lag" pass described in the video) front? I didn't see much triangle at all in the games I watched, but I didn't realize they were running a modified form; I was looking for that two-guard front since Jackson's teams run it pretty frequently.
Re: breaking down the triangle...
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:09 pm
by john2jer
I'll have to read this when I get home and offer my take. Not saying its the case for this article, but more often than not I'm learning most people don't know jack about the triangle.