Post Entry Passing

Jackattaq · Post #1 » by **Jackattaq** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:16 pm

Is this really a skill that must be taught? I don't know how many post entry passes I saw that were flat out stolen in this past game against GS. But seriously, do you have to teach a player, who has been hooping for at least 15 years, how to make a post entry pass? I never thought of it as a "skill", it's just common sense. You need a good angle, a good communication with the post man and you need to put the ball where they are calling for it.

Is this a problem due to not having one consistent PG to feed the post? Most times, any player should be able to feed the post, then cut baseline or spot up outside the 3pt line. I just don't understand how some players can't make a simple post entry pass.

thinktank · Post #2 » by **thinktank** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:18 pm

You also need good timing and it helps if you don't telegraph it.

mandurugo · Post #3 » by **mandurugo** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:31 pm

I think the hardest thing to keep in mind is how much bigger and faster everyone in the NBA is - I mean obviously everyone realizes this, but watching the game on TV and even live to a certain extent our brains get fooled and we start judging these guys by our own experiences. Play them in a gym with your normal competition and suddenly Brewer can dribble, Wes has a left hand, and everyone can throw a perfect inbound pass/seal their defender to effortlessly receive the pass. But that said - yeah, they do have to get better at this.

spolgar · Post #4 » by **spolgar** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:44 pm

The post entry pass is difficult. As a Rockets fan of years past, passes to a center of Yao Ming's height were either from the two or the three position. Note that in the past, they had two excellent passers for their position in McGrady and Battier. Both of these players have excellent length and savvy to execute.

Is there someone on the wolves personnel that fits that description?

Devilzsidewalk · Post #5 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:40 pm

too often I'm seeing the guys dribbling into position instead of receiving the ball in position off a pass, then they pick up their dribble to make the pass and the triple threat is gone, they can't improve their angle at all and they either have to shoot out of rhythm or make a telegraphed pass

Post #6 » by **revprodeji** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:26 pm

I just worked with my 8th grade traveling team on this skill last week.

I think this is a concern, but a greater concern should be that we are not letting Darko know when the pg is coming from behind to steal the ball. His confidence is fragile and we should not have him thinking about the double team from the blind side.

Jackattaq · Post #7 » by **Jackattaq** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:00 pm

revprodeji wrote:I just worked with my 8th grade traveling team on this skill last week.

I think this is a concern, but a greater concern should be that we are not letting Darko know when the pg is coming from behind to steal the ball. His confidence is fragile and we should not have him thinking about the double team from the blind side.

Do you think it's just a by-product of a young team coming together or is it a culmination of players just not having that skill to their overall games? I think the post entry passe is a key to a successful team. Not every team has a low post threat, so I know guys are much more comfortable with dribbling and playing one on one than feeding the post guys and setting up an offense.

It's frustrating because Minnesota can have some great possessions where they dump it inside to Love and Darko and then draw doubles and kick the ball around for open shots, but they also have WAY TOO MANY PULL-UP JUMPSHOTS with NO ONE UNDERNEATH FOR A REBOUND (a la Ridnour and Beasley). When you make up your mind to run an offense through your bigs, you have to stick with it. To me, it seems like that requires way more effort for a defense to defend for 22 seconds per shot clock than a pull up shot and long rebound which often leads to easy fastbreaks for the other team. I like the offense going through the bigs (that's why Duncan and Olajuwon have always been favorites of mine outside my hometown team). When you run it through the bigs there is a lot more control to your offense and you are able to control pace. Not many missed 6 foot shots rebound out to the 3 point line and turn into fastbreaks for the defense.

Here is to hoping the T-Wolve don't give up on feeding the bigs inside and developing a truly dominate frontcourt. Both Darko and Love have size and decent post up games. If the other players start to trust and communicate with them better they will get better shots. Wes Johnson only has to move without the ball after feeding the post and he's getting easy baskets. I loved the one at the end of the Spurs game where he fed Darko, Darko got doubled, and Johnson moved to the corner for a very long 2pter and Wes knocked it down. You just gotta move. Johnson is so athletic that if he just moves, he will get layups and dunks. This team has talent, they just need to "grow up" together and learn to play off each other.

Good Luck T-Wolves.

Post #8 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:53 pm

revprodeji wrote:I think this is a concern, but a greater concern should be that we are not letting Darko know when the pg is coming from behind to steal the ball. His confidence is fragile and we should not have him thinking about the double team from the blind side.

Part of it is communication I'm sure, but alot of that is on Darko. He has to know where the defenders are on the court.