Should Beasley continue getting PT at PF?

NewWolvesOrder · Post #1 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:38 pm

When Tolliver returns? I really like Beasley getting part PF / part SF minutes. Let's get this straight, Beasley is a tweener, he's more comfortable playing defense at PF where he can help with his shotblocking, but you don't want him banging in the post for 38 min a game due to lack of size and Love plays PF here. There will be matchups that will be too big and physical for him, but there will be matchups he can handle and destroy them on offense. I think Beasley should continue playing backup minutes at PF and start as SF. It will open up more minutes for Wes and Web at SF. Ideally, Beasley comes off the bench getting big minutes at both positions and finishes games and we start the game with good ball movement lineup. But it's not realistic to expect.

Tolliver should get all the minutes behind Darko, he's really good fit next to Love: long and quick athlete that hustles on defense, he doesn't get a ton of blocks but gets quite a few charges. I really like Love/Tolliver and Beasley/Darko PF/C combinations. Both have good mix of physical stength and athletic agility. It can go like this: Beasley,Love, Darko start, then Darko goes to the bench first(due to usual foul trouble), Tolliver comes in, then Beasley goes and Webster comes in, 2nd Q we start with Love gettting big rest and Beasley/Darko at PF/C during this stretch.

Last part, Kahn needs to up his play and get this team a starting caliber PG at last. I can't take it any more.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #2 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:56 pm

yes he should

Grits n Gravy · Post #3 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:32 pm

beasleys potential at pf is far greater than that at sf imo. he is far too quick for pf's and has very good handles for a pf. you say last night against utah how much of a match up nightmare he is for pf's. he was not settling for jumpers and being aggressive getting to the rim, he also showed amazing unselfishness last night..passing up good shots for great shots. last night was a glimpse of the player beas could be, outstanding to see. if beasley developed a post game for his sf spot, i think his potential as a sf would be close to that at the pf spot. so yes, i think he should see a good amount of minutes at the pf.

horaceworthy · Post #4 » by **horaceworthy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:23 pm

Beasley settling for jumpers doesn't really have anything to do with the guy guarding him. Much of the time he spent at PF he still ended up being checked by AK47, the same guy who was guarding him most of the time when he was at SF. Very tough to attribute his willingness to share last night with spending time at PF as well.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #5 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:32 pm

horaceworthy wrote:Beasley settling for jumpers doesn't really have anything to do with the guy guarding him. Much of the time he spent at PF he still ended up being checked by AK47, the same guy who was guarding him most of the time when he was at SF. Very tough to attribute his willingness to share last night with spending time at PF as well.

AK is a SF/PF combo himself.

Grits n Gravy · Post #6 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:37 pm

horaceworthy wrote:Beasley settling for jumpers doesn't really have anything to do with the guy guarding him. Much of the time he spent at PF he still ended up being checked by AK47, the same guy who was guarding him most of the time when he was at SF. Very tough to attribute his willingness to share last night with spending time at PF as well.

thats right, but late in the game he was flat out abusing milsap off the dribble...milsap did have 5 fouls bu7t that wasn't a factor off the dribble as much as it was on the contest.

Ice32 · Post #7 » by **Ice32** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:40 pm

Beasley should be playing some PF more often, depending on match-ups. But we can't have Love playing centre too much, the interior defense suffers. Tolliver could help that when he returns.

Beasley shoots 47% and can take his man outside, and drive by or pop a three. I like what he brings, and hes only going to get better.

To think that hes only 21 and Love is 22. These guys need to be given good contracts so they can lead the Wolf Pack. Imagine how good they are going to be in 2,3 or 4 seasons time.

Lets get Chris Paul! Look at what hes done for New Orleans.

Piecake · Post #8 » by **Piecake** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:45 pm

I'm kinda worried about Paul's knees holding up long term. No way we are getting him anyways

horaceworthy · Post #9 » by **horaceworthy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:45 pm

kiwi_adam wrote:thats right, but late in the game he was flat out abusing milsap off the dribble...milsap did have 5 fouls bu7t that wasn't a factor off the dribble as much as it was on the contest.

And often got abused himself at the other end when Millsap got the chance.

Beasley can get a step on just about anyone, SF or PF. He can finish over/though just about anyone at those positions as well. His shot selection seems to have more to do with his mood than his position. Same goes for his willingness to share.

Piecake · Post #10 » by **Piecake** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:47 pm

I think his willingness to drive to the hole and pass the ball have been much better of late. His defense has looked marginally better the last few games as well (that's not saying much). Hopefully he will keep this improvement up

Post #11 » by **C.lupus** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:54 pm

I'm with horace on this one. Beasley's game has more to do with Beasley's mood than his position. I'm not too sure SF/PF is that important in this situation anyway. He'll be matched up with some of each in any given game. When his game is on, he's pretty unstoppable so he just needs to learn to bring his A game every night.

mandurugo · Post #12 » by **mandurugo** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:26 pm

I still think Beasley is a PF, but asking him to play both positions is unreasonable. He's going to have enough problems learning his assignments for one of the positions, let alone both of them. Beasley or Love should be traded, they don't compliment each other enough (or much at all really) on offense to make up for their defense when on the court together.

Post #13 » by **revprodeji** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:04 am

Offensively he can do the same thing as a SF or PF. The issue is who he defends.

Breakdown777 · Post #14 » by **Breakdown777** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:20 am

I think Beasley can still get some minutes at PF, but for Defensive purposes I'd be nice to have another tweener Forward who can guard SF/PF...giving Beasley the opportunity to guard whomever is the easier matchup.

It's too bad all of the players like that I can think of like that either don't play good D or are all-stars.

pumunga · Post #15 » by **pumunga** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:49 am

shangrila · Post #16 » by **shangrila** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:50 am

Yeah, I think a lot depends on matchups. Tolliver will probably get some minutes at centre as well, so I guess there's some minutes for Beasley there at PF.

Greco21 · Post #17 » by **Greco21** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:44 pm

There is a huge advantage with Beasly as a Small Forward against most of the current lineups in the NBA. You are spacing the floor if you play him as a PF... but i honestly like old school lineups and that floor spacing can be delivered by Kevin Love too. To add to the above i believe that most NBA teams are weak in the back court defense.

Last but not least Minesota is leading in Rebounds. Why change what makes you the best guys?

mandurugo · Post #18 » by **mandurugo** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:55 pm

Greco21 wrote:There is a huge advantage with Beasly as a Small Forward against most of the current lineups in the NBA. You are spacing the floor if you play him as a PF... but i honestly like old school lineups and that floor spacing can be delivered by Kevin Love too. To add to the above i believe that most NBA teams are weak in the back court defense.

Last but not least Minesota is leading in Rebounds. Why change what makes you the best guys?

Well, what makes the wolves the best is getting the team around 15-20 wins a year. I think they can risk going in another direction with those results...

canucklife21 · Post #19 » by **canucklife21** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:34 pm

i would like to see beasley at the three because for the future.. beasley must be a three becuase of kevin love.. have beasley and love at the 4 and 5 will be difficult for us to stop the elite bigs in the leauge.. knowing beasley can take fours def make sence however our future should play a big part of this decison and what will work down the road

NewWolvesOrder · Post #20 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:52 pm

canucklife21 wrote:i would like to see beasley at the three because for the future.. beasley must be a three becuase of kevin love.. have beasley and love at the 4 and 5 will be difficult for us to stop the elite bigs in the leauge.. knowing beasley can take fours def make sence however our future should play a big part of this decison and what will work down the road

This thread wasn't about Beasley playing full time 4 and Love at 5. The question is wether wolves should continue to convert him into a true SF or should they let him be himself- a tweener or combo forward playing both positions.