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ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:38 am
by revprodeji
Den
out Mello
in Brewer, Chandler, 1st (from us)

NY
Out Randolph, Curry, Chandler
in Mello

MN
out Brewer, 1st rd pick (which one?)
In Randolph and Curry



Curry? Expiring deal but could we flip it as an expiring?

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:39 am
by CoffeeJanitor
DO NOT WANT

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:39 am
by allweneedisLOVE
Terrible deal unless Randolph can actually start playing a lot better than a 12th man.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:40 am
by Den Masters
Not sure if i would want to part with brewer and our 1st for randolph AND curry. I understand Curry is expiring but we are under salary cap anyway. We're basically giving DEN a favor.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:43 am
by cpfsf
Is this Kahn's way of saying thank you for Darko?

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:50 am
by Piecake
If the pick is our first, I am done watching the wolves

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:52 am
by revprodeji
It cannot be our first. We are not allowed to trade it due to the LAC trade (how many times do I need to say that). So it is Utah or Mem pick.

I do not understand why we take Curry. What does that do for us at all? We waive him and then lose the cap flexibility? I do not understand that aspect.

Ronzone loves Randolph. Take a flier on him, but for Brewer+1st+taking Curry?

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:54 am
by revprodeji
Basically, we absorb Curry's contract and Denver gets our space so it saves them around 20mil.

Yet we are throwing in the pick, and a player arguably better than Randolph.

As much as I like Randolph, once again Kahn is not getting the full value for assets.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:57 am
by LordBaldric
This trade is pure garbage.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:01 am
by shangrila
Agreed. But until it's a done deal it's just a rumour

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:01 am
by Piecake
Well, maybe my dislike for Chris Broussard will be validated and this trade will be just a bunch of BS

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:04 am
by FairDinkum
This is disgusting...

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:08 am
by Thiazi
I'm glad to see everyone else thinks this proposed trade is terrible. Brewer is a FA after this year anyway, so if we don't want him after this season, then's he gone anyway. Curry's contract would just be bought out, so doesn't do us any good and we're already under the cap. I can't really comment on Randolph, but I think saying that he's not worth Brewer, a first rounder and taking on Curry's contract. There really isn't any reason for us to be involved in this trade and if anything we should be receiving 1st round picks for aiding the deal, not throwing in firsts.

I generally like what Kahn is doing, but this trade needs to be aborted now. Let someone else be the third wheel. We would just be giving up way too much for little to no reward.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:12 am
by urinesane
This one sounds better:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1464 ... n-out-west

While the Nuggets realize they will have to seriously engage the Knicks in trade talks for Anthony before the Feb. 24 deadline, a third team already has stepped into the on-deck circle as a potential facilitator if talks between Denver and New York ever gain traction. That team, sources say, is the Timberwolves, who are willing to absorb Eddy Curry's $11.3 million expiring contract in a three-team scenario that would send Anthony Randolph to Minnesota and Anthony to New York. In this scenario, which one executive involved deemed "unlikely," the Wolves would simply waive Curry after the trade. Depending on the timing, Curry would likely have only five paychecks remaining for a total of $4.7 million. So taking on Curry would involve little or no cost to Minnesota; if the Wolves could negotiate a $3 million buyout covering the remainder of Curry's salary, that tab would be fully picked up by the Knicks, who could send as much as $3 million cash to Minnesota in the trade. But Curry's $11.3 million cap number would help make the complicated trade math work in a three-team deal. The Nuggets aren't interested in Curry's expiring contract, sources say, and the only other team with enough cap space to take it on without sending back equal salary is Sacramento -- which has yet to be invited into any Knicks-Nuggets discussions. If the Knicks and Nuggets aren't going to do business before the deadline, perhaps leaving Anthony in free-agent limbo heading into a new collective bargaining agreement, then Minnesota would still be interested in Randolph -- and would be willing to give up a low first-round pick and absorb Roger Mason ($1.4 million) into their cap space in a one-on-one deal.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:24 am
by Piecake
urinesane wrote:This one sounds better:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1464 ... n-out-west

While the Nuggets realize they will have to seriously engage the Knicks in trade talks for Anthony before the Feb. 24 deadline, a third team already has stepped into the on-deck circle as a potential facilitator if talks between Denver and New York ever gain traction. That team, sources say, is the Timberwolves, who are willing to absorb Eddy Curry's $11.3 million expiring contract in a three-team scenario that would send Anthony Randolph to Minnesota and Anthony to New York. In this scenario, which one executive involved deemed "unlikely," the Wolves would simply waive Curry after the trade. Depending on the timing, Curry would likely have only five paychecks remaining for a total of $4.7 million. So taking on Curry would involve little or no cost to Minnesota; if the Wolves could negotiate a $3 million buyout covering the remainder of Curry's salary, that tab would be fully picked up by the Knicks, who could send as much as $3 million cash to Minnesota in the trade. But Curry's $11.3 million cap number would help make the complicated trade math work in a three-team deal. The Nuggets aren't interested in Curry's expiring contract, sources say, and the only other team with enough cap space to take it on without sending back equal salary is Sacramento -- which has yet to be invited into any Knicks-Nuggets discussions. If the Knicks and Nuggets aren't going to do business before the deadline, perhaps leaving Anthony in free-agent limbo heading into a new collective bargaining agreement, then Minnesota would still be interested in Randolph -- and would be willing to give up a low first-round pick and absorb Roger Mason ($1.4 million) into their cap space in a one-on-one deal.


Now that would be sensible.

The only way that the ESPN trade makes any amount of sense for us is if Broussard simply forgot to say that Minnesota also gets Afflalo in the deal.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:26 am
by dookieguy
Although Curry would take up Minny's cap space, he's only owed $4.7m. 2/3 of that could be covered by the Knicks if they send $3m Minnesota's way.

So basically, it's Brewer + late 1st for AR, which I think is pretty solid. AR is what the team needs while still having some potential, Brewer is an RFA, and the team doesn't need more prospects anyway.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:28 am
by Yes We Kahn
Why not? Brewer is going to be a FA anyways. And all you talk about how the draft is going to be so thin. Based on that, I'd rather have a look at Randolph than a low pick in a bad draft.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:29 am
by Effigy
At that above article, there's no way Curry accepts a buyout that big. He may never get another contract, he's keeping his money. But since you'd be getting $3 million and losing Brewer's salary it's probably at least a wash. If Brewer has no value, it's basically a very late pick, probably not even the Memphis pick, for Randolph, and Randolph still has potential and is likely much better than what you'd get drafting in the 20's.

It's terrible for Denver, especially after the Nets rumor, and it's fantastic for the Knicks. Just Curry and Randolph for Melo? Amazing. If you guys are steamed about this I can only imagine what's going on in the Denver board.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:30 am
by AQuintus
I could see us maybe adding Brewer or maybe taking back Curry (and buying him out), but not both.

Re: ESPN: NY/MN/DEN Deal on Sportcenter

Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:30 am
by Ice32
if this is true, at least one member of the Timberwolves is going to the Playoffs....