::Official Timberwolves' 2011 NBA Draft Thread::

Torcher · Post #1 » by **Torcher** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:24 am

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This is the official thread for the upcoming 2011 NBA draft. Any other threads regarding the draft won't be nessessary. Please use this thread from now until after the actual draft.
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Okay, now that I've got that out of the way, I'll start us off in our first topic.
Let's say the draft went like this.

1: Irving
2: Williams
3: Barnes
4: Jones
5: Kanter

Now, now post your suggestions on how you'll carry out the draft from each draft position. (1-5) Here's mine:

1: Draft Irving, don't look back.
2: Trade Williams plus two of our bench players, draft picks, and cash for Irving.
3: Draft Barnes.
4: Trade Jones for a nice veteran. (We already have a Perry Jones of our own, Randolph)
5: Either draft Valanciunas or Knight.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #2 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:37 am

my top 4 are P Jones/Irving/D Williams/Barnes

after that I'm not feeling too good about knowing who to take. Kanter, Walker, Knight would all get consideration, but overall I'd probably hope to swing a trade.

In fact I'm pretty open to trades of any sort at any pick the Wolves might get, I'm not wild about tying the Wolves future to Kahn picking the right guy out of a crap-shoot draft. If a trade for an established player comes along, I'd pounce.

Post #3 » by **revprodeji** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:19 am

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How about not?

As a matter of fact, I think the "prospect watch" there is fine for prospects, and the "pick watch" thread is fine for placement. I do not appreciate back seat mod trying to make official threads.

btw, "necessary"*

Torcher · Post #4 » by **Torcher** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:47 am

revprodeji wrote:
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This is the official thread for the upcoming 2011 NBA draft. Any other threads regarding the draft won't be nessessary. Please use this thread from now until after the actual draft.
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How about not?

As a matter of fact, I think the "prospect watch" there is fine for prospects, and the "pick watch" thread is fine for placement. I do not appreciate back seat mod trying to make official threads.

btw, "necessary"*

I get what your saying, but why not have one, single thread instead several threads? Why not combine them? Don't take this too seriously, revprodeji.

Post #5 » by **Calinks** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:51 am

You don't get it. The wolves have made everybody evil now. We are all like mirror verse people from star trek. Say the wrong thing an d you might get a knife in the eye. Hell, I don't even talk to myself anymore.

Post #6 » by **revprodeji** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:53 am

A single thread never works because of the tangets they go on. Typically pre-draft we will have various prospect threads, trade scenario threads and then the actual draft. That allows conversations to develop in various avenues.

I am "not taking things too serious" you just have no reason to demand an "official thread" for something that is not for three months.

Post #7 » by **The J Rocka** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:18 am

revprodeji wrote:A single thread never works because of the tangets they go on. Typically pre-draft we will have various prospect threads, trade scenario threads and then the actual draft. That allows conversations to develop in various avenues.

I am "not taking things too serious" you just have no reason to demand an "official thread" for something that is not for three months.

In other words, save it for rubechat.

Esohny · Post #8 » by **Esohny** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:45 am

Not that the outcome here couldn't have been predicted, but we all would have lost something.

Post #9 » by **Klomp** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:56 am

revprodeji wrote:
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This is the official thread for the upcoming 2011 NBA draft. Any other threads regarding the draft won't be nessessary. Please use this thread from now until after the actual draft.
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How about not?

As a matter of fact, I think the "prospect watch" there is fine for prospects, and the "pick watch" thread is fine for placement. I do not appreciate back seat mod trying to make official threads.

btw, "necessary"*

Dangit, the old retired (but not retired) guy beat me to it. I need to work on my game.

Post #10 » by **revprodeji** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:50 pm

If you ever worked on your game you would not need me anymore. Get to it.

john2jer · Post #11 » by **john2jer** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:46 pm

Didn't rev lose a "loser leaves town" battle against C.lupus for modship? Rev, take your retired arse back to your wife and house hunting.

eyeteeth · Post #12 » by **eyeteeth** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 8:42 pm

David Aldridge's big board for SG's is up at NBA.com. Definitely interesting.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/d ... ef:nbahpt1

HSOB SIRHC · Post #13 » by **HSOB SIRHC** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:30 pm

Are the Timberwolves entertaining offers for Rubio or is he untouchable? Raptors might have 4th pick?

funkatron101 · Post #14 » by **funkatron101** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:35 pm

HSOB SIRHC wrote:Are the Timberwolves entertaining offers for Rubio or is he untouchable? Raptors might have 4th pick?

Kahn is not trading Rubio. I went to a town hall meeting a few weeks ago in which he stated "Rubio will start his NBA career as a Timberwolf." Gotta let "Rubio or die trying" thing go.

HSOB SIRHC · Post #15 » by **HSOB SIRHC** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:24 pm

funkatron101 wrote:
HSOB SIRHC wrote:Are the Timberwolves entertaining offers for Rubio or is he untouchable? Raptors might have 4th pick?

Kahn is not trading Rubio. I went to a town hall meeting a few weeks ago in which he stated "Rubio will start his NBA career as a Timberwolf." Gotta let "Rubio or die trying" thing go.

So what happens if the Timberwolves end up with the first overall pick? Draft Irving? End up with the following PG's on the roster?

Irving
Rubio
Flynn
Telfair
Ridnour

funkatron101 · Post #16 » by **funkatron101** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:33 pm

HSOB SIRHC wrote:
funkatron101 wrote:
HSOB SIRHC wrote:Are the Timberwolves entertaining offers for Rubio or is he untouchable? Raptors might have 4th pick?

Kahn is not trading Rubio. I went to a town hall meeting a few weeks ago in which he stated "Rubio will start his NBA career as a Timberwolf." Gotta let "Rubio or die trying" thing go.

So what happens if the Timberwolves end up with the first overall pick? Draft Irving? End up with the following PG's on the roster?

Irving
Rubio
Flynn
Telfair
Ridnour

Telfair is expiring, he is not on the team next season. A number of different scenarios could take place.

1. Irving could be traded for an established star-quality vet. (likely)
2. Flynn gets traded (likely), Ridnour gets traded, or both.
3. Pick someone else.

I think Kahn is going to have to be blown away in order to trade Rubio, and no team is going to offer such a deal.

Also, if the lockout happens, it is very likely that Rubio will wait yet another year, and I don't blame him.

Kahn's career hinges on Rubio. I would personally trade him in a lot of scenarios, but Kahn has insisted that he is going to be a Timberwolf.

eyeteeth · Post #17 » by **eyeteeth** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:59 pm

Yeah, I think it's become personal for DK. He had sooo many people laugh at him after he drafted Rubio, insisting RR would never play here, that it's just not entirely about the basketball anymore. I can't blame him, I mean, tons of people around the league and in national NBA-related media were basically making fun of MN and DK. So now he's got to have this thing just so everybody can't turn around and laugh at him again and say "told you so."

For my part I bet RR signs here regardless of the lockout. He needs to work on his NBA game, and to do that he needs to be on a team and start working with teammates and coaches. Besides, it's simply way too clear that Barca just doesn't give a sh*t about him. So I think he's coming over next season no matter what.

Peezo · Post #18 » by **Peezo** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 2:11 am

I watched Barnes beat up on a few teams in the past couple weeks and he has me firmly on his bandwagon, but isn't he very similar to Wesley J? He is another huge wing (6''8) who can stroke.

Irving is not John Wall or D Rose. He could be very, very good, but he is not on that elite level. At least not yet (I felt this way pre-injury, and he couldn't have done much to improve his game since then).

I'd rather give minutes to AR than Perry Jones (as someone already stated).

Does a top 3 pick, Wes or Beas, Rubio, and two more firsts get you CP3? Does it get you laughed at? Because I'd much rather see us swing big for a vet in a bad situation instead of picking another young guy. I know CP3 is supposed to be untouchable, but we just have so much ammo and they might not be able to keep David West.

Lastly, I think Kemba Walker could play some decent two for us. Not next to flynn or ridnour though.

Post #19 » by **The J Rocka** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 2:22 am

Peezo wrote:I watched Barnes beat up on a few teams in the past couple weeks and he has me firmly on his bandwagon, but isn't he very similar to Wesley J? He is another huge wing (6''8) who can stroke.

Irving is not John Wall or D Rose. He could be very, very good, but he is not on that elite level. At least not yet (I felt this way pre-injury, and he couldn't have done much to improve his game since then).

I'd rather give minutes to AR than Perry Jones (as someone already stated).

Does a top 3 pick, Wes or Beas, Rubio, and two more firsts get you CP3? Does it get you laughed at? Because I'd much rather see us swing big for a vet in a bad situation instead of picking another young guy. I know CP3 is supposed to be untouchable, but we just have so much ammo and they might not be able to keep David West.

Lastly, I think Kemba Walker could play some decent two for us. Not next to flynn or ridnour though.

No thank you. Give me a bigger/natural 2 guard who can defend bigger guards & one that isn't a tweener. I don't want a poormans Ben Gordon or Randy Foye.

collin_k41 · Post #20 » by **collin_k41** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 2:31 am

Kahn will not trade Rubio unless it's an absolute steal for us. When you look at it, his job depends on Rubio succeeding.

When I look at this draft I'm really disappointed. Barnes was the only one I wanted on this team, and now it's looking like he's staying at UNC for another season, although there is still plenty of time for him to change his mind. Irving isn't a Rose or Wall like PG, Derrick Williams is a tween, all of the in draft bigs are risky, etc. The way I see it now, we need either Irving or Williams which is likely going to take a top 2 pick. If we can get one of those guys, trade the Memphis pick and others for a big.