MIN/LAC

ritt0093 · Post #1 » by **ritt0093** » Mon May 16, 2011 9:24 pm

MIN in/LAC out:
Eric Gordon (SG)
2012 MIN 1st round pick

MIN out/LAC in:
MIN 2011 #1 pick
Michael Beasley (SF)

MIN lineup
PG: Rubio, Ridnour
SG: Gordon, Webster
SF: Johnson, ???
PF: Love, Randolph
C: Milicic, Pekovic

MIN gets good shooters to surround Rubio, and has players playing their natural positions.

LAC gets Irving to pair with Griffin, Beasley and Jordan.

funkatron101 · Post #2 » by **funkatron101** » Mon May 16, 2011 9:27 pm

Clippers say no way.

shrink · Post #3 » by **shrink** » Mon May 16, 2011 9:54 pm

I think that's a legit offer. If we got the #1 pick, that is worth >>> a slim chance at the 2012 top pick, and it's worth more than Gordon, who would get his first big FA contract in 2012 (along with the rest of our stars). Maybe the #1 doesn't have the value for both, but Beasley, at 19 PPG, is far from an insignificant piece.

While Clipper POSTERS may say no way, I think that's something Donald Sterling would consider. Kyrie would sell a lot of tickets.

For us? I'm OK with it. I think we may value Beasley more than other teams, so it might be better to find a different piece. I think if we land the #1 pick tomorrow night, that Kahn will look to deal it, since he needs to show progress, and Rubio won't hold that level of trade value. Tough for me to give up Kyrie, but this seems like legitimate value.

cpfsf · Post #4 » by **cpfsf** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:08 pm

I wouldn't do it if I was LAC.

Post #5 » by **The J Rocka** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:09 pm

Clippers just dumped their lotto pick to get Mo Williams and they have Bledsoe. AFA plays the same position as Beas. Not sure why the Clippers do this.

Flash4thewin · Post #6 » by **Flash4thewin** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:22 pm

shrink wrote:I think that's a legit offer. If we got the #1 pick, that is worth >>> a slim chance at the 2012 top pick, and it's worth more than Gordon, who would get his first big FA contract in 2012 (along with the rest of our stars). Maybe the #1 doesn't have the value for both, but Beasley, at 19 PPG, is far from an insignificant piece.

While Clipper POSTERS may say no way, I think that's something Donald Sterling would consider. Kyrie would sell a lot of tickets.

For us? I'm OK with it. I think we may value Beasley more than other teams, so it might be better to find a different piece. I think if we land the #1 pick tomorrow night, that Kahn will look to deal it, since he needs to show progress, and Rubio won't hold that level of trade value. Tough for me to give up Kyrie, but this seems like legitimate value.

Kahn would be an idiot to trade the #1 pick just because Rubio has a lower trade value. With the #1 pick you flip Rubio to a team that needs a pg like the raptors

Esohny · Post #7 » by **Esohny** » Mon May 16, 2011 11:28 pm

I would do it. But I don't think the Clippers do.

moss_is_1 · Post #8 » by **moss_is_1** » Mon May 16, 2011 11:31 pm

Yes please. Gordon is a stud.

B Calrissian · Post #9 » by **B Calrissian** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:17 am

I'd trade our 1st/Wes/Beas for Gordon.

eyeteeth · Post #10 » by **eyeteeth** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:20 am

I think Clips do this, but I am skeptical of "grass is greener" reports of how awesome next year's draft class is.

Don't know enough about Eric Gordon to say if it's worth it.

Beas · Post #11 » by **Beas** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:28 am

I would do this easily, but would the Clippers? I don't think so.

moss_is_1 · Post #12 » by **moss_is_1** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:51 am

eyeteeth wrote:I think Clips do this, but I am skeptical of "grass is greener" reports of how awesome next year's draft class is.

Don't know enough about Eric Gordon to say if it's worth it.

Eric Gordon is a stud, he plays at a high level on both ends. I think he's the 4th best sg after wade,kobe,gino, and he might even be better then Gino.

Post #13 » by **Klomp** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:18 am

moss_is_1 wrote:Eric Gordon is a stud, he plays at a high level on both ends. I think he's the 4th best sg after wade,kobe,gino, and he might even be better then Gino.

JJ? Monta?

moss_is_1 · Post #14 » by **moss_is_1** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:39 am

Klomp wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:Eric Gordon is a stud, he plays at a high level on both ends. I think he's the 4th best sg after wade,kobe,gino, and he might even be better then Gino.

JJ? Monta?

Yes he's better then both IMO. Gordon is a nightmare on offense, and he plays great defense. He can play some pg duty, can hit the 3, get to the line, athletic, long arms...and he's young.

pumunga · Post #15 » by **pumunga** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:00 am

moss_is_1 wrote:Eric Gordon is a stud, he plays at a high level on both ends. I think he's the 4th best sg after wade,kobe,gino, and he might even be better then Gino.

imo One coulde argue that quite a few shooting guards are better than gordon

skorff26 · Post #16 » by **skorff26** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:22 am

The J Rocka wrote:Clippers just dumped their lotto pick to get Mo Williams and they have Bledsoe. AFA plays the same position as Beas. Not sure why the Clippers do this.

Clippers dumped their lotto pick to get out of Baron's contract, not to acquire MoWill.

As for this trade, I'd love it but I don't think the clips would do it...

Sterling is one owner who might do something like this because of the salary savings. I think Johnson/#1 for Gordon/2012 1st might have more merit... he wouldn't have to pay Johnson or Irving for a couple of years then (any other owner there is no chance, but with someone like sterling running things, there is a chance of this being a possibility)

Esohny · Post #17 » by **Esohny** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:23 am

pumunga wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:Eric Gordon is a stud, he plays at a high level on both ends. I think he's the 4th best sg after wade,kobe,gino, and he might even be better then Gino.

imo One coulde argue that quite a few shooting guards are better than gordon

Which SGs?

Post #18 » by **The J Rocka** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:29 am

skorff26 wrote:
The J Rocka wrote:Clippers just dumped their lotto pick to get Mo Williams and they have Bledsoe. AFA plays the same position as Beas. Not sure why the Clippers do this.

Clippers dumped their lotto pick to get out of Baron's contract, not to acquire MoWill.

As for this trade, I'd love it but I don't think the clips would do it...

Sterling is one owner who might do something like this because of the salary savings. I think Johnson/#1 for Gordon/2012 1st might have more merit... he wouldn't have to pay Johnson or Irving for a couple of years then (any other owner there is no chance, but with someone like sterling running things, there is a chance of this being a possibility)

They could've dumped Baron's contract without giving up that pick. Lucky for them, next year they will have a better pick than that 8th pick this year + their own pick in a better draft next year. They knew what they were doing.

B Calrissian · Post #19 » by **B Calrissian** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:40 am

I'd agree Wade, Kobe, Manu (til next year maybe) are above him.

Pumunga, Who of the below are better? I'm sure I forgot quite a few and alot are misspelled. Feel free to add in ones that are better that I forgot to list.
Joe Johnson
Jamal Crawford
Ray Allen
Von Wafer
Gerald Henderson
Keith Bogans
Kyle Korver
Ronnie Brewer
Jason Terry
Corey Brewer
Deshawn Stevenson
JR Smith
Aaron Afflalo
Rip Hamilton
Ben Gordon
Monta Ellis
Kevin Martin
Courtney Lee
Brandon Rush
Paul George
Shannon Brown
OJ Mayo
Xavier Henry
Mike Miller
Eddie House
John Salmons
Wes Johnson
Martell Webster
Wayne Ellington
Sasha Vuajcic
Marco Bellinelli
Landry Fields
James Harden
JJ Redick
Andre Iguodala
Evan Turner
Jodie Meeks
Vince Carter
Mikael Pietrus
Wes Matthews
Brandon Roy
Rudy Goggles
Marcus Thornton
Gary Neal
Demar Derozan
CJ Miles
Raja Bell
Nick Young
Jordan Crawford

B Calrissian · Post #20 » by **B Calrissian** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:51 am

The J Rocka wrote:
skorff26 wrote:
The J Rocka wrote:Clippers just dumped their lotto pick to get Mo Williams and they have Bledsoe. AFA plays the same position as Beas. Not sure why the Clippers do this.

Clippers dumped their lotto pick to get out of Baron's contract, not to acquire MoWill.

As for this trade, I'd love it but I don't think the clips would do it...

Sterling is one owner who might do something like this because of the salary savings. I think Johnson/#1 for Gordon/2012 1st might have more merit... he wouldn't have to pay Johnson or Irving for a couple of years then (any other owner there is no chance, but with someone like sterling running things, there is a chance of this being a possibility)

They could've dumped Baron's contract without giving up that pick. Lucky for them, next year they will have a better pick than that 8th pick this year + their own pick in a better draft next year. They knew what they were doing.

How does that equate to them knowing what they were doing? Those things were true before the trade. Or are you saying they got rid of the lottery pick to be worse this upcoming season to get a better pick?