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Hawks fan here, just wondering what it would take to snag the #2 from you, Kenter and the Hawks would be a perfect fit, so what would you guys want for the second pick? (PS: Horford and Teague are off limits)

ATL Boy wrote:Hawks fan here, just wondering what it would take to snag the #2 from you... (PS: Horford and Teague are off limits)

Nothing that you're willing to give up.

AQuintus wrote:

ATL Boy wrote:Hawks fan here, just wondering what it would take to snag the #2 from you... (PS: Horford and Teague are off limits)

Nothing that you're willing to give up.

Seriously. What are you even offering if Teague and Horford are off the table? Josh Smith (who plays PF) and a bunch of mediocre to horribad contracts?

Swimmer wrote:

AQuintus wrote:

ATL Boy wrote:Hawks fan here, just wondering what it would take to snag the #2 from you... (PS: Horford and Teague are off limits)

Nothing that you're willing to give up.

Seriously. What are you even offering if Teague and Horford are off the table? Josh Smith (who plays PF) and a bunch of mediocre to horribad contracts?

I would love to have Kentar, but trading Horford defeats the purpose, the main reason the Hawks are searching for that consistent big man is to move Horford to the 4. And as for Teague this is the first time in years we've had a truly good point man, we aren't about to give that up.

So you think Teague is a better prospect than Brandon Knight?

ATL Boy wrote:I would love to have Kentar, but trading Horford defeats the purpose, the main reason the Hawks are searching for that consistent big man is to move Horford to the 4. And as for Teague this is the first time in years we've had a truly good point man, we aren't about to give that up.

That's fine. It's understandable why you wouldn't want to trade Horford, but clearly there aren't any other desirable assets to use in obtaining the #2. Shrug.

what would other teams want from the ATL if not Teague or Horford?

one billion dollars.

jade_hippo wrote:what would other teams want from the ATL if not Teague or Horford?

Right. I want a new X-Box, but I only want to use the change in my pocket.

Have we turned against Josh Smith? A few months ago everyone here was in love with him.

Worm Guts wrote:Have we turned against Josh Smith? A few months ago everyone here was in love with him.

I call it "coming to their senses" or "seeing the light."

And I think we have our limit of upside SF/PF's

Smith is more proven than upside, he's pretty good right now.

Worm Guts wrote:Smith is more proven than upside, he's pretty good right now.

Smith is very good, but not a player I want sharing floor time with Beasley or Randolph.

Worm Guts wrote:Have we turned against Josh Smith? A few months ago everyone here was in love with him.

for the record, I've never liked Smith, but if we are looking to trade the #2 because we think Williams is a bad fit with Love/Beasley/Randolph/Darko... wouldn't we just be making the same bad fit but at 4x's the cost per year with Smith?

jade_hippo wrote:

Worm Guts wrote:Have we turned against Josh Smith? A few months ago everyone here was in love with him.

for the record, I've never liked Smith, but if we are looking to trade the #2 because we think Williams is a bad fit with Love/Beasley/Randolph/Darko... wouldn't we just be making the same bad fit but at 4x's the cost per year with Smith?

No he's not a good fit, although he's a better defender than anyone we have. I'm not saying I would make the trade, just that I thought some people here really like him.

Krapinsky wrote:

Worm Guts wrote:Smith is more proven than upside, he's pretty good right now.

Smith is very good, but not a player I want sharing floor time with Beasley or Randolph.

No, not with them but instead of them. I mean he is better than either.

In situations like this, it might make sense to look at a three team trade.

Still, I think it will be difficult, since I think 2 > Smith, and most teams already have good options at PF.

You know Josh isn't the only player on our team, we have Hinrich, who is expiring, and would be a perfect mentor to Rubio if he comes over this year, (if not Hinrich is still a good player, he'll be a good fit this year.) I don't think you'll want Joe Johnson because of his contract, Marvin Williams can still be a good asset, or we could sign and trade Jamal Crawford.

ATL Boy wrote:You know Josh isn't the only player on our team, we have Hinrich, who is expiring, and would be a perfect mentor to Rubio if he comes over this year, (if not Hinrich is still a good player, he'll be a good fit this year.) I don't think you'll want Joe Johnson because of his contract, Marvin Williams can still be a good asset, or we could sign and trade Jamal Crawford.

I thought you were talking about the #2, not the #20.

Hinrich? Marvin Williams? come on.