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Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:20 am
by Klomp
ST. PAUL, Minn. - A new plan announced Wednesday by St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman would bring the Minnesota Timberwolves across the river to St. Paul and keep the Vikings in Minneapolis.
Coleman’s plan calls for two-cent per drink sales tax around Minnesota to keep the Vikings in Minneapolis. He says the plan would cover "the full $550 million public investment for a new Vikings stadium.”
“Whether in Mankato, Minnetonka or Mountain Iron, Vikings fans are eating wings and drinking beer while watching their favorite team. Such a statewide asset deserves a statewide commitment,” Coleman said.
The plan would also relieve Minneapolis of its existing debt on Target Center.
“Our region cannot sustain two competing arenas while larger markets use just one. We are the smallest market in the country to host our professional hockey and basketball teams in competing arenas, which is an economic disadvantage we must overcome,” Coleman said. “Using one first-class arena for both the Timberwolves and the Wild will ensure our region remains competitive while cutting the long-term costs of supporting two competing arenas.”
As for the Timberwolves, they would come to St. Paul and share Xcel Energy Center with the Minnesota Wild. Coleman says a $75 million retrofit of the X would accommodate both teams, including a practice facility.
But not so fast -- the Vikings still insist they are going to Arden Hills. But Coleman says the half-cent sales tax hike in the Ramsey County-Arden Hills stadium plan isn't a good deal for his city.
“Current stadium proposals place an undue burden on one part of Minnesota for the benefit of another," Coleman said. "The Ramsey County proposal to place a half-cent sales tax on St. Paul to build a stadium in Arden Hills is not a good deal for St. Paul. The Minneapolis proposal to spend $150 million on the Target Center, while it competes against the Xcel Energy Center, is a bad investment for our region.”
Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak met with his St. Paul counterpart, and said it would be a mistake to close Target Center and move the Timberwolves.
“I met with Mayor Coleman to hear his plan and will consider all ideas to keep the Vikings in Minnesota. However, after a decade of investing tax dollars in a civic building and important economic engine, it would be a mistake to close the Target Center and move the Timberwolves," Rybak said. "The sensible solution is to renovate the Target Center.”
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news ... ay-25-2011
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:23 am
by Klomp
@MNTimberwolves MN Timberwolves
RT @WolvesCMO Busy day talking about Mayor Coleman's proposal to move #twolves to St Paul. Love you St Paul, but love our home in Mpls more!
http://twitter.com/#!/MNTimberwolves/st ... 0576779264
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:39 am
by Esohny
I would like that, xcel is a much better building. And I assume it would also be better financially, but who knows for sure?
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:54 am
by Calinks
I was hoping for a new stadium but I would LOVE this!
St. Paul needs way more attractions and wolves games would be a 20 minute bus ride away. Sign me up!
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:09 am
by The J Rocka
I like the building structure of XEC but you gotta keep them in Minneapolis. I don't want to drive to St. Paul and knowing that they are in a hockey zone doesn't thrill me.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:14 am
by Krapinsky
I would put the odds of them moving to St. Paul at less than 1%
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:15 am
by Klomp
Klomp wrote:“Our region cannot sustain two competing arenas while larger markets use just one. We are the smallest market in the country to host our professional hockey and basketball teams in competing arenas, which is an economic disadvantage we must overcome,” Coleman said. “Using one first-class arena for both the Timberwolves and the Wild will ensure our region remains competitive while cutting the long-term costs of supporting two competing arenas.”
I'm not a fan of this line of thinking. The Xcel Energy Center may be a "first-class arena" for hockey, but I doubt it would be the same for basketball. Thats why baseball had to move out of the Metrodome.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:20 am
by The J Rocka
Klomp wrote:Klomp wrote:“Our region cannot sustain two competing arenas while larger markets use just one. We are the smallest market in the country to host our professional hockey and basketball teams in competing arenas, which is an economic disadvantage we must overcome,” Coleman said. “Using one first-class arena for both the Timberwolves and the Wild will ensure our region remains competitive while cutting the long-term costs of supporting two competing arenas.”
I'm not a fan of this line of thinking. The Xcel Energy Center may be a "first-class arena" for hockey, but I doubt it would be the same for basketball. Thats why baseball had to move out of the Metrodome.
You know they're going to have Wild stuff (theme) around no matter how much Wolves stuff they try to put in place. It's not like they're going to drag that George Mikan statue there and take out a statue the Wild have (if they have one already). When you walk in the front door, people will get that feeling of going to a hockey game. Renovate TC and establish a basketball atmosphere.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:24 am
by jade_hippo
I think the statue is of Herb Brooks if I remember right?
*edit* or is that more over by the Roy Wilkins? geeze, been forever since I was there.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:42 am
by pumunga
Mountain Iron represent!
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:51 am
by Gunny
So instead of driving 15 minutes to a game, I'd have to drive for 20. Oh well.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:34 am
by urinesane
Screw that the Target Center is 15 minutes from my house.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:42 am
by Tha Juice
The J Rocka wrote:You know they're going to have Wild stuff (theme) around no matter how much Wolves stuff they try to put in place. It's not like they're going to drag that George Mikan statue there and take out a statue the Wild have (if they have one already). When you walk in the front door, people will get that feeling of going to a hockey game. Renovate TC and establish a basketball atmosphere.
Agreed. I would like to see the Wolves stay in Minneapolis. Keep that basketball history in the city where it originally started with the Lakers playing at the old Minneapolis Auditorium. With the Vikings potentially moving to Arden Hills the Wolves would be the only major sport playing in the winter months left in the city. Renovate Target Center and rekindle that basketball atmosphere that we haven't had in Minneapolis for quite some time.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:11 am
by jade_hippo
I'd be ok with Mt Iron stadium. Can put it just down the street from the skating rink. As an added bonus, more of a reason to head to Virginia for some Cane Lakes candy.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:39 am
by CoffeeJanitor
So what would they do with the Target Center, then? It's not like it's a dump.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:56 am
by Foye
Considering they just released plans to renovate TC I think that's highly unlikely.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:57 pm
by Esohny
Foye wrote:Considering they just released plans to renovate TC I think that's highly unlikely.
They released a proposal.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:39 pm
by C.lupus
Screw both locations. They are both too far away. Move the team to the new Sanford Center in Bemidji!
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:21 pm
by mandurugo
I'm not interested in any tax increase to support professional sports acquisition of new arenas. If an industry that generates that much financial traffic can't figure out how to support itself let it die.
Re: Timberwolves to St. Paul?
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:20 pm
by Klomp
C.lupus wrote:Screw both locations. They are both too far away. Move the team to the new Sanford Center in Bemidji!
I'm sold!