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Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:09 pm
by cavsfan58
http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStori ... TORY_33383It seems like now that you guys signed rubio that flynn is the odd man out... what would you guys be looking to get from toronto and sacramento?
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:14 pm
by Foye
A protected future 1st would be great. Expect more like a salary dump or adding a vet (Barbosa for example), though.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:19 pm
by shangrila
From Toronto I would be cool with Bayless or, at worst, Barbosa. From Sacramento? Greene would be cool.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:23 pm
by Foye
shangrila wrote:From Toronto I would be cool with Bayless or, at worst, Barbosa. From Sacramento? Greene would be cool.
I don't care about Greene and Bayless. They would have trouble getting PT here as well.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:35 pm
by Kumar
Flynn packaged with #20 for OJ.
MEM gets a backup point and the #20 - MIN gets their starting SG.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:36 pm
by shrink
Pricewise. I value him at being worth about about a 17 pick.
He has a better chance of becoming a useful player than other guys in this draft.
I'd prefer a future pick, since it helps with roster glut, or including him as small incentive in a larger trade. I'm not interested in Bayless of Barbosa, so TOR's options are limited unless they want to make this a bigger trade.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:51 pm
by [RCG]
Top 10-protected future 1st from Toronto, Phoenix or Sacramento would be nice.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 5:02 pm
by Esohny
Kumar wrote:Flynn packaged with #20 for OJ.
MEM gets a backup point and the #20 - MIN gets their starting SG.
I would think a 3-way would be needed if the target was Mayo. I doubt Memphis wants Flynn.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 10:30 pm
by Calinks
It all depends on how many other teams believe he can turn the corner and get back to his rookie form. If a handful of teams feel that way then we could be looking at a top 10-20 pick return. If no teams are offering, Kahn will end up moving him for whatever he can get eventually.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Sun Jun 5, 2011 10:32 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
I think teams want him because we have Rubio now and figure they can get him for basically nothing. There's always a market for a top 10 pick still on his rookie contract.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:08 am
by Esohny
Devilzsidewalk wrote:I think teams want him because we have Rubio now and figure they can get him for basically nothing. There's always a market for a top 10 pick still on his rookie contract.
I'd be happy to package him, get a future (highly protected, if necessary) pick, or hell, get straight cap if the Wolves keep going and get enough to sign a decent free agent (Marc Gasol please).
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:06 am
by Krapinsky
I don't think Gasol or even Bogut is the answer for what we want to become. Perhaps if we were running the triangle, sure.
We want to become a running team with Rubio and take advantage of the athleticism that our youth brings, but we can't do that with Love and Gasol as our two big fat plodding bigs. With Love I think we need a big that's going to run the floor, whether that's Randolph, Biyombo, Kanter or Jonas!.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:15 am
by Klomp
I don't think many thought Foye and Miller could get us #5, so it will be interesting to see how much Flynn can get us.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:32 am
by Wolves21
Well I will take Evans and DeRozan

but being more realistic I would take Garcia or Barbosa to give us a solid back up SG that can give us a pop off of the bench and be our six or seventh man.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:59 am
by Breakdown777
I like the idea of Garcia. He's active on D.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:02 am
by Grits n Gravy
Breakdown777 wrote:I like the idea of Garcia. He's active on D.
he's making 6 mil per year the next 2 years

Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:21 am
by Breakdown777
kiwi_adam wrote:Breakdown777 wrote:I like the idea of Garcia. He's active on D.
he's making 6 mil per year the next 2 years

Nevermind then...

I'd rather spend 14+ on Iggy than 6 on Garcia.
Re: Johnny Flynn rumors?
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2011 4:30 am
by Esohny
Krapinsky wrote:I don't think Gasol or even Bogut is the answer for what we want to become. Perhaps if we were running the triangle, sure.
We want to become a running team with Rubio and take advantage of the athleticism that our youth brings, but we can't do that with Love and Gasol as our two big fat plodding bigs. With Love I think we need a big that's going to run the floor, whether that's Randolph, Biyombo, Kanter or Jonas!.
By "we," I assume you mean Kahn. I know that it's a lot to ask, but I would really hope that Kahn would have realized by now that the whole "no defense, all youth, tons of turnovers, no effective half-court game, let's try to run all the time" strategy is stupid, and he should just try to get effective players on the team.
It's not like you need the bigs to be the ones finishing fast breaks anyway, that's supposed to be what Wes Johnson, Randolph, and to an extent Beasley are for. Let Rubio and whoever run when there's an opportunity, and otherwise play a pick and roll game between Rubio and Love/Kanter/Gasol/whoever.