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Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:24 am
by Klomp
Their first option is to trade the pick for the shooting guard they need, and there have been discussions with the Toronto Raptors involving the pick and back-up point guard Jonny Flynn, with Demar DeRozan possibly being the piece who comes back to Minnesota. The Timberwolves have also shown interest in OJ Mayo, but he appears to be off the block after playing such a pivotal role in the Memphis Grizzlies' playoff run.
It seems the Raptors would much prefer to send Jose Calderon to Minnesota, with the obvious connection being he would be a mentor for fellow Spaniard Ricky Rubio, but the Timberwolves are not particularly interested in Calderon. In fact, their preferred mentor for Rubio is Steve Nash, but acquiring him seems like a bit of a stretch. Now it seems there may be another back-up plan.
According to Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski, the Timberwolves are considering trading Michael Beasley and going ahead and using the #2 pick to draft Williams, assuming he can play the small forward position. That's a real stretch, as Williams is very unlikely to be able to play the three in the NBA. What's more likely is that the Timberwolves are putting this information out there through rumor channels to create the impression that they are thinking about keeping the pick. Perhaps that will help either shake DeRozan loose from the Raptors or create another opportunity elsewhere. Either way, it seems like trading Beasley, who has such a phenomenal season for the Timberwolves last season, is more of a bluff than a real plan.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=20040
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:25 am
by Esohny
Hoopsworld...
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:31 am
by karch34
I'd love 2 and Flynn for 5 and DeRozen. Granted if Kahn had just got him 2 year ago...
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:33 am
by AQuintus
Esohny wrote:Hoopsworld...
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:53 am
by Peezo
karch34 wrote:I'd love 2 and Flynn for 5 and DeRozen. Granted if Kahn had just got him 2 year ago...
I think Raps fans would go crazy if it was the 5 and DeRozan. I think it would have to be Flynn the 2 and then another decent asset. Maybe I just overvalue DeRozan but he seems like a pretty good player to me and he is still so young.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:57 am
by Breakdown777
If I were a Raps fan, I'd consider DeRoz like I consider Wes on the Wolves; A very important part of the future, but moveable under the right circumstances. In Toronto's shoes, even though I'm moving up to get that sexy #2 pick....I'd want to move a bad contract with DeRoz to aid in the "starting over".
I'd be willing to take back Bayless, Kleiza, or Amir. If Kleiza or Amir are included...I'd be expecting more value back from TOR though.
If MN can find a 3rd team willing to take on Bargs or Calderon...This might be a good deal.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 2:20 am
by rennytwentyone
Except for right now DeRozan>>>>>>Wes.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 2:29 am
by Breakdown777
rennytwentyone wrote:Except for right now DeRozan>>>>>>Wes.
If that's the case, what's wrong with 5 + DeRozan for 2 + Wes Johnson? They are both young. Both have high ceilings. I'd never do this cuz I'm a homer and I like Wes Johnson and his potential more, but this could be in the rumor mill as well.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 2:49 am
by Esohny
Peezo wrote:karch34 wrote:I'd love 2 and Flynn for 5 and DeRozen. Granted if Kahn had just got him 2 year ago...
I think Raps fans would go crazy if it was the 5 and DeRozan. I think it would have to be Flynn the 2 and then another decent asset. Maybe I just overvalue DeRozan but he seems like a pretty good player to me and he is still so young.
The #2 is too much for Derozan. And I really like Derozan (I wanted him at 6 that year).
But for Derozan + 5 (I'd take Biyombo), in addition to Flynn + 2, I would also send Randolph or maybe take back salary (Kleiza maybe? Just not Calderon).
Of course, I think I'd prefer making a deal for Mayo relatively cheaply over sending a lot of assets to Toronto for Derozan. That would leave the #2 for a deal for a vet.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 3:23 am
by moss_is_1
Yes please. This is the kind of deal Kahn needs to make. At 5 we'd probably have to take Biyombo, cuz I doubt Kanter will fall.
Rubio-Demar-Beasley/Wes-Love-Darko/Biyombo
sex. Demar would be helped out by Beasley, Love, Wes being good shooters, and he would add some nice athleticism to our team.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 3:30 am
by prefuse73
I don't know, Derozan seems to be a one-trick pony. He is very athletic and can get into the paint however, he is not much of a shooter, defense is nothing special, and his handle is average at best. Granted I haven't seen him play a ton, but I feel like Mayo will come much cheaper and will be a better fit with Rubio.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 3:35 am
by theGreatRC
I know hoopsworld is crapola, but I really hope were trying to get Mayo...
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 3:36 am
by moss_is_1
^Mayo sucks though. DeMar still scores pretty well, and got to the line at a nice rate, and I believe is only 20-21.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 4:07 am
by Krapinsky
OMG I would love this sooooo much.
Flynn + #2.
Or Flynn + #4 (after a Verajao trade)
We could have just drafted Derozan instead of Flynn.... but whatever, better late than never.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 4:11 am
by younggunsmn
Not gonna happen.
Toronto is not moving him.
Wouldn't give up 2 for him.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 4:18 am
by Esohny
Raptors forum discussion. Not surprising in the least.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1117553
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 4:29 am
by The J Rocka
It's funny because they killed me for offering 2 + WJ for 5 + DD, but this deal is even worse.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 4:32 am
by TheProdigy
I'd throw in the #20 pick as well to make it 2, 20, Flynn for 5 and DeRozan. Raptors fans would hate that deal too I'm sure. Who can blame them though, DeRozan is an exciting fan favorite for them.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 4:36 am
by Krapinsky
The J Rocka wrote:It's funny because they killed me for offering 2 + WJ for 5 + DD, but this deal is even worse.
I see the deal as Flynn + 2 for Derozan and I would still do it.
Re: Rumor: DeRozan?
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2011 4:39 am
by TheProdigy
Krapinsky wrote:The J Rocka wrote:It's funny because they killed me for offering 2 + WJ for 5 + DD, but this deal is even worse.
I see the deal as Flynn + 2 for Derozan and I would still do it.
Wow that's a true illustration of how badly Kahn f'd up that draft.