Trade proposal involving Rockets/Suns

[[RCG]]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3q3ss6w

MN out: Webster, Tolliver, Pekovic, Flynn, #20
MN in: #13, #14, Childress

PHX out: #13, Childress
PHX in: Pekovic, Flynn, #20

HOU out: #14
HOU in: Tolliver, Webster

(Originally I thought about giving Phoenix Utah's 1st and #20 to Houston but I thought this was fair enough)

Phoenix is rumored to be looking for more "bulk" inside, can hardly get any more bulky than Pekovic. They were also interested in Flynn earlier this year. Suns acquire both while moving down 7 slots and dumping Childress in the process.

Houston gets two young vets, which are proven unlike the gamble they'd be taking in the late lottery. Both Tolliver and Webster are good locker room guys who can produce on the floor. Both have good contracts which can be absorbed.

Minnesota sheds $8 million dollars which can be used to target a guy like Afflalo, or a C. Wolves also get a chance to pick up two guys like Burks/Brooks/Biyombo or another player who might slip. If there is indeed an amnesty clause in the new CBA, Childress could be cut for even more savings.

Assuming Williams is picked at 2, Brooks/Burks at #13 and Biyombo at #14.

Rubio/Ridnour
Johnson/(Brooks/Burks)/Childress
Beasley/(Williams)
Love/(Williams)
Milicic/Randolph/(Biyombo)

We'd have an awfully young team again. But I'm not sure how many games Webster, Tolliver, Pekovic, Flynn are going to win or how much growing they can still do.

[Krapinsky]

Pretty sure this is the opposite direction Kahn wants to go

[Grits n Gravy]

i personally would do it...not sure houston would though.

[The J Rocka]

Pass. We don't need Childress, we lose solid role players, and getting 13 + 14 is adding too much youth.

[MNRunLeft]

I wouldn't take on Childress' contract isn't something I'd want to take on.

[karch34]

How did Childress look this year? I know there was a time that he was the type we were looking for, but thought he underwhelmed this year. Didn't follow Suns close enough to know. Not sure the picks would be enticing (like the players at those slots), but maybe that would be part of another deal.

[Grits n Gravy]

i personally would do it...not sure houston would though.

now looking at childress`s contract...pass

[deeney0]

Cut out Houston. Flynn, Pek, and #20 for Childress and #13. Not that the Houston trade isn't good value, but I doubt the Rockets would do it. The rest seems solid to me though.

[Dewey]

ick

[eyeteeth]

Is paying someone $6 mil plus to sit on the bench for 5 years worth the #13 pick? I doubt it.

Josh Childress is the classic example of a marginal NBA talent with a simply silly-large contract. (Oh, wait, maybe that's Vince Carter. Go Suns!) There are two players on that team worth having at their current salary: Nash and Gortat. That roster is awful. I can't imagine trading with them.

[shrink]

I would apply different trade values to the pieces involved, but I approve of sending pieces like Flynn and Pekovic to the places where they have the most value, and getting back more universally tradable assets like the picks.

I don't see us using the picks, unless we could move up higher into the draft, or as additional incentive to trade for a player we liked -- for example, the Derozean deal.

In PHX, Sarver has been all over the board on his finances. Sometimes he's really cheap, sometimes he spends money on questionable investments. I'm not a fan of Childress' contract (4 more years at about $7 mil/year), but I'd be curious if Sarver is even less of one, and what incentive he'd provide to move that money.

[[RCG]]

Anyone paying close attention to CBA talks? How likely is it that the new CBA will include an amnesty clause? If it does or looks like it probably will then it might be worth it to take a gamble on take on a contract that isn't desirable in order to get something else of value back. Obviously not some team-wrecking deal like Arenas but Childress' is more manageable.

This deal I was under the assumption that there would likely be an amnesty clause. I'm also curious because we would have a lot of young pieces with potential (perhaps a younger OKC?) There players being shipped out are certainly tradeable. We should be in a position of trying to acqure talent and potential all-stars or assets that can be used in acquiring them.

[shrink]

If it's like the last amnesty clause, keep in mind that a team still has to pay the contract, and that money still counts against the cap space a team has available.

All the last amnesty clause did was - if your payroll was over the lux, that contract didn't count towards your lux.

Now this could still have an effect, because if MIN gives out a few big contracts and/or trades for one, they could be there.

[noobcake]

Houston doesn't even touch this.

2 bench warmers won't fetch a late lotto pick. Lotto picks have potentials to be all stars. Websters and Tolliver are career backups (average/below average backups at that)

[shrink]

Lotto picks have potentials to be all stars.

LOL! Let's just see what "potential All Star" you get at 14 in this draft.

thanks for stopping by.

[Swimmer]

Houston wouldn't do this. But it might make it easier to package up to grab Biyombo! And I don't mind Childress the player, though his contract is rather bad, so I'd probably do this, since I don't really like the contracts we are sending out either.