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Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 1:58 am
by shrink
I've been doing some research on amnesty candidates, compiling suggestions from a lot of writers. If these players become free agents, who could we use? Try to hold back any Pavlovian bile that a high salary might condition you to. For example, Rashard Lewis at $20 mil << Rashard Lewis at $5 mil.

CENTER:
DAL: Haywood?
UTA: Okur
CHA: Diop
BOS: Jermaine O'Neal?
HOU: Thabeet

PF-SF
WAS: Rashard Lewis
LAL: Artest?
ATL: Marvin Williams
DEN: Al Harrington?
DET: Villanueva
LAC: Gomes
LAL: Walton
MIA: Mike Miller
MIL: Gooden?
NOH: Ariza
NJN: Outlaw
NYK: Balkman?
PHI: Nocioni
SAS: Richard Jefferson
TOR: Kleiza?

SG:
POR: Brandon Roy
DET: Rip Hamilton,
GSW: Charlie Bell
IND: Posey, Dahntay Jones
SAC: Garcia
PHO: Childress

PG:
ORL: Arenas
CLE: Baron Davis
TOR Calderon?
MIL: Udrih

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 2:50 am
by jade_hippo
Mike Miller, Ariza, and Artest stand out to me.

Miller won't look so out of place with shooters/scorers like Beasley, Ridnour, Williams, Love hanging around it would be so mind numbing when he passes up shots.

Both Ariza and Artest can play defense and won't be required to do any heavy lifting on offense which should be ideal for them.

*edit* as a side note, I'd love to see Gomes come back. I once made a bold prediction that Ryan Gomes would be the only T-Wolf on the current roster when we make the playoffs, and I can't imagine Telfair will return, so it could come true.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 3:31 am
by B Calrissian
I wouldn't mind Gomes back either, assuming he gets 82 DNP CD.

None of the players on that list really interest me very much. I wouldn't mind Calderon, Okur, or Haywood for dirt cheap, but for dirt cheap I'm sure they'd rather play/start for a team like Miami.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 4:20 am
by digitaldropoff
Assuming Okur is healthy again, I think he would be a perfect fit. He's a euro Brad Miller but with a better shot and not quite the vision. You could keep Darko and Pek and play all three at any particular situation. I would like Okur....I think Adelman would to.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 5:08 am
by Esohny
B Calrissian wrote:I wouldn't mind Gomes back either, assuming he gets 82 DNP CD.

None of the players on that list really interest me very much. I wouldn't mind Calderon, Okur, or Haywood for dirt cheap, but for dirt cheap I'm sure they'd rather play/start for a team like Miami.


Gomes and Calderon don't interest me in the least. I agree with Okur and Haywood for the right price, but as you say, they're not coming here on the cheap.

Nobody else on that list is appealing, except maybe Roy for a cheap/incentive laden contract (although he's probably the same situation as Okur and Haywood).

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 5:25 am
by shangrila
Yeah, Okur or Haywood for something similar to Ridnour's contract would be great.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 5:49 am
by cpfsf
Ariza is pretty high on my list of amnesty candidates, but I don't see New Orleans even using the amnesty on anyone. He had a pretty big role offensively under Adelman, and that worries me a bit. Maybe Ariza would consider Minnesota assuming he was comfortable with the coach. I like the FA class options far more. I'd rather pursue Battier, Prince, or Moute instead.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 6:20 am
by Narf
Don't think that Haywood will be amnestied personally. Haywood's contract is less than $9 mil a year and he's still a top 15 center in the league. He'll probably average 10 points, 10 rebounds, and 2 blocks per 36 for the next 3 years. If they allow you to Amnesty players in a year or 2, rather than right away, my guess is Dallas keeps him for another 2 years then Amnesties him.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 11:17 am
by Vindicater
Haywood is one guy we should be clearly having at least a little look at.

But lets be honest guys...

We all want this guy.

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Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 11:47 am
by Basti
Sorry in advance for the clutter :D

shrink wrote:I've been doing some research on amnesty candidates, compiling suggestions from a lot of writers. If these players become free agents, who could we use? Try to hold back any Pavlovian bile that a high salary might condition you to. For example, Rashard Lewis at $20 mil << Rashard Lewis at $5 mil.

CENTER:
DAL: Haywood? I'd love to get him but I don't think Dallas will amnesty him. Nor would he sign here unless we overpaid him
UTA: Okur Not much of a fan of his. He lacks (lateral) quickness and defense which is something I want from a center
CHA: Diop I prefer Darko over him
BOS: Jermaine O'Neal? Is probably too injury prone and he'd probably sign with a contender
HOU: Thabeet I'd like to give him a chance

PF-SF
WAS: Rashard Lewis I don't think his skill-set is anything we'd need right now given our glut at the forward positions
LAL: Artest? Too old and not good enough anymore to consider him. I'd rather give Williams, Johnson and Beasley the minutes
ATL: Marvin Williams I wouldn't mind having him on board but only if we traded one our tweener forwards for a decent center/shooting guard first
DEN: Al Harrington? No, thanks. Too much of a ballhog
DET: Villanueva I don't like his skillset. Brings nothing to the table we don't already have
LAC: Gomes I really like him and would love to see him in a Wolves uniform again one fine day but we have no need for him
LAL: Walton No, thanks
MIA: Mike Miller If he grew some balls in the meantime, I'd take him back but if he still gives up wide open shots he can stay away
MIL: Gooden? Ugh. There's a reason he's been on the roster of about half the league's teams
NOH: Ariza At the right prize I'd take him but his role should be the same that he had back in LaLaLand
NJN: Outlaw Was probably overrated by Portland fans and has been probably underrated by Nets fans since signing there. I don't know what to think of him. If his Defense is as decent as advertised I might consider him
NYK: Balkman? No, he doesn't really do anything well so he's not worth spending any money on
PHI: Nocioni I've been a huge fan of his for a few years and I love his attitude and passion for the game but he's over the hill.
SAS: Richard Jefferson I wonder if his last season was a fluke. Isn't he also quite injury prone? Too much of a risk considering how much he probably would ask for
TOR: Kleiza? We have enough role players already

SG:
POR: Brandon Roy Tough one. I love him as a player but I'd only give him heavily protected contract, like having team options after the 2nd and 3rd year. I wonder if he would really sign up for that
DET: Rip Hamilton, Only as a veteran mentor to play ~20 minutes a night. I'm not sure he'd accept a role like that.
GSW: Charlie Bell No, thanks. Too much of a role player. Isn't he also some kind of tweener?
IND: Posey, Dahntay Jones I wouldn't mind Posey as he brings toughness and veteran experience to the table but I assume he'd rather sign with a contender *cough* Miami *cough*. Not sure about Dahntay Jones. Haven't heard anything of him for years, which leads me to think he's a role player. No need for that
SAC: Garcia I wouldn't be opposed to signing him but IIRC he's been somewhat injury prone for a while. Feel free to correct me here. Not sure about his defense, too.
PHO: Childress I don't know about him.

PG:
ORL: Arenas Meh. Not that I really have an issue with his personality or his past but he screams ballhog to me.
CLE: Baron Davis Sign him to a single year contract and I'd be okay with it. He just gets too lazy way too often.
TOR Calderon? Without having to take on his huge contract I could live with him mentoring Rubio
MIL: Udrih Too much of a role player to me, although he could help Rubio transitioning from the European to the American game

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 8:02 pm
by shrink
Interesting note:

-- A so-called "amnesty clause'' is a cinch to be included in a final agreement. The clause would enable teams to dump one bad contract from their payroll.

However, contrary to several reports, I've been told the "amnesty'' player wouldn't be free to sign with another team. Instead, he would be subjected to a "bidding'' war for his services.

For example, if the Bucks opted to rid themselves of Drew Gooden's contract -- he has four years for $26 million -- other teams could bid to sign him.


http://www.journaltimes.com/sports/bucks-notes-kohl-s-interest-in-selling-bucks-growing/article_740c5f4a-06a1-11e1-a728-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1cxPnKkGF

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 6, 2011 8:31 pm
by B Calrissian
That does make it more interesting. It will give teams like the Wolves a chance to sign guys that would normally go to a contender.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Mon Nov 7, 2011 4:04 am
by moss_is_1
That would make things a lot better for teams that actually used their cap wisely. I'd be okay with Rip Hamilton or Haywood, other then that no one really interests me with our current roster.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Mon Nov 7, 2011 3:07 pm
by cpfsf
shrink wrote:Interesting note:

-- A so-called "amnesty clause'' is a cinch to be included in a final agreement. The clause would enable teams to dump one bad contract from their payroll.

However, contrary to several reports, I've been told the "amnesty'' player wouldn't be free to sign with another team. Instead, he would be subjected to a "bidding'' war for his services.

For example, if the Bucks opted to rid themselves of Drew Gooden's contract -- he has four years for $26 million -- other teams could bid to sign him.


http://www.journaltimes.com/sports/bucks-notes-kohl-s-interest-in-selling-bucks-growing/article_740c5f4a-06a1-11e1-a728-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1cxPnKkGF


I know nobody here is hiding underneath the negotiating table, but how could you set up a contract? It's not the player is a RFA.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Tue Nov 8, 2011 6:14 am
by Vindicater
I actually think Childress could be an interesting pickup if he comes cheap. (As in Vet Min.)

Another reclamation type.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Tue Nov 8, 2011 9:45 am
by shangrila
If he couldn't cut it offensively in Pheonix I don't have much hope for the guy.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:58 pm
by Vindicater
I think getting cut will motivate him. Saying that still though I don't want anything to do with him if he costs more than the minimum.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:28 am
by younggunsmn
SG or C only. We are loaded at PG, SF, and PF.

Can't see anyone who I would consider a long-term fix outside of Oden or Roy experiencing medical miracles.

Re: Amnesty Candidates we should look at?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:21 am
by Vindicater
Throw some money at Haywood... probably wont get him, but do it anyway :)