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Please, there's no need to trade G, he's an underradar beast. VERY skilled, hard worker and humble. And if he's offered 20M next summer... well, then maybe he is worth it.
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Tirion wrote:Why would you want to trade a good young bigman, who is a hard worker and improves every year?
Apparently, we aren't allowed to have good depth on this team. If we have two good players at one position, one of them must be traded.
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Im not against G by any means. I support him and I think he will have (and deserve) a big contract. I want him to do it well while he play for us, but if Bjelly can replicate 70-80% of G performance at 1/3 of the cost, I would trade G for good value in a position of need.
I envision Towns, Lavine and Wiggins as our core, with Rubio and Dunn like secondary pieces. But G overlaps with Towns too much IMO to handle 1/5 of the cap each.
I envision Towns, Lavine and Wiggins as our core, with Rubio and Dunn like secondary pieces. But G overlaps with Towns too much IMO to handle 1/5 of the cap each.
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Killboard wrote:Im not against G by any means. I support him and I think he will have (and deserve) a big contract. I want him to do it well while he play for us, but if Bjelly can replicate 70-80% of G performance at 1/3 of the cost, I would trade G for good value in a position of need.
I envision Towns, Lavine and Wiggins as our core, with Rubio and Dunn like secondary pieces. But G overlaps with Towns too much IMO to handle 1/5 of the cap each.
At this point, I don't know what we would trade him for that would be of more use than he is. I suppose we could use another wing, but trading Gorgui would just open a hole with our front court depth.
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Killboard wrote:I envision Towns, Lavine and Wiggins as our core, with Rubio and Dunn like secondary pieces. But G overlaps with Towns too much IMO to handle 1/5 of the cap each.
No chance Dieng gets $20 million. I don't even think he'll get $15 million.
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What teams are going to offer Gorgui that much money? Just looking at the projected cap space for this summer only Dallas, Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Miami and the Wolves have $20 million or more in cap space. Other teams would need to create some cap space to be able to offer Gorgui that much money.
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Klomp wrote:Killboard wrote:I envision Towns, Lavine and Wiggins as our core, with Rubio and Dunn like secondary pieces. But G overlaps with Towns too much IMO to handle 1/5 of the cap each.
No chance Dieng gets $20 million. I don't even think he'll get $15 million.
I think that's why they didnt get an extension in place already. Mozgov, Mahinmi, Noah all of them got over 16M and I dont see any of them being better than G. All of them are average starters without upside. If he is underrated by every other team with money in the offseason (or if he has a terrible year), there is a good chance we can lock him for less than 15, but I dont think that happens, specially if we make the playoffs with him in the starting unit.
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Killboard wrote:I think that's why they didnt get an extension in place already. Mozgov, Mahinmi, Noah all of them got over 16M and I dont see any of them being better than G. All of them are average starters without upside. If he is underrated by every other team with money in the offseason (or if he has a terrible year), there is a good chance we can lock him for less than 15, but I dont think that happens, specially if we make the playoffs with him in the starting unit.
He's seen as the 4th/5th wheel of the starting lineup. Mozgov is 7-1 (people overrate/overpay for height) and Noah is a former DPOY. I have no idea why Mahinmi was overpaid so much, but I think teams will learn from mistakes made this past offseason.
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Klomp wrote:Killboard wrote:I think that's why they didnt get an extension in place already. Mozgov, Mahinmi, Noah all of them got over 16M and I dont see any of them being better than G. All of them are average starters without upside. If he is underrated by every other team with money in the offseason (or if he has a terrible year), there is a good chance we can lock him for less than 15, but I dont think that happens, specially if we make the playoffs with him in the starting unit.
He's seen as the 4th/5th wheel of the starting lineup. Mozgov is 7-1 (people overrate/overpay for height) and Noah is a former DPOY. I have no idea why Mahinmi was overpaid so much, but I think teams will learn from mistakes made this past offseason.
More teams had money to spend than there were quality players to spend the money on. Around half the league had over 20 million to spend on players last summer. This summer there are only a handful of teams with that much money to spend.
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Mattya wrote:Klomp wrote:Killboard wrote:I think that's why they didnt get an extension in place already. Mozgov, Mahinmi, Noah all of them got over 16M and I dont see any of them being better than G. All of them are average starters without upside. If he is underrated by every other team with money in the offseason (or if he has a terrible year), there is a good chance we can lock him for less than 15, but I dont think that happens, specially if we make the playoffs with him in the starting unit.
He's seen as the 4th/5th wheel of the starting lineup. Mozgov is 7-1 (people overrate/overpay for height) and Noah is a former DPOY. I have no idea why Mahinmi was overpaid so much, but I think teams will learn from mistakes made this past offseason.
More teams had money to spend than there were quality players to spend the money on. Around half the league had over 20 million to spend on players last summer. This summer there are only a handful of teams with that much money to spend.
The list of true C's that could change teams next year is also very short. I think S. Adams and Gobert are going to get nearly max money from their teams. Then you have Noel, Bogut, Mason Plumlee and Pachulia, but little to nothing left.
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Killboard wrote:Mattya wrote:Klomp wrote:He's seen as the 4th/5th wheel of the starting lineup. Mozgov is 7-1 (people overrate/overpay for height) and Noah is a former DPOY. I have no idea why Mahinmi was overpaid so much, but I think teams will learn from mistakes made this past offseason.
More teams had money to spend than there were quality players to spend the money on. Around half the league had over 20 million to spend on players last summer. This summer there are only a handful of teams with that much money to spend.
The list of true C's that could change teams next year is also very short. I think S. Adams and Gobert are going to get nearly max money from their teams. Then you have Noel, Bogut, Mason Plumlee and Pachulia left, but not too much else.
Which also rules out Philadelphia and Miami for sure since they already have centers. Brooklyn maybe if they are desperate and don't care that they are already paying Lopez. So that would leave Dallas and The Hornets(if some of the options are declined) as the only teams that could potentially offer Gorgui that money that also even have a need for a center. Just go through the list below. I only see The Mavericks and Hornets as teams that could at this point realistically offer Gorgui a $20 million contract. Even The Hornets are questionable since they will have to also resign Zeller who they seem to like and will also need a new contract.
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/243084/The-Maximum-Available-2017-Cap-Space-For-All-30-NBA-Teams-Version-10
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Klomp wrote:Killboard wrote:I think that's why they didnt get an extension in place already. Mozgov, Mahinmi, Noah all of them got over 16M and I dont see any of them being better than G. All of them are average starters without upside. If he is underrated by every other team with money in the offseason (or if he has a terrible year), there is a good chance we can lock him for less than 15, but I dont think that happens, specially if we make the playoffs with him in the starting unit.
He's seen as the 4th/5th wheel of the starting lineup. Mozgov is 7-1 (people overrate/overpay for height) and Noah is a former DPOY. I have no idea why Mahinmi was overpaid so much, but I think teams will learn from mistakes made this past offseason.
History says most teams dont learn from their mistakes lol
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Nemanja is happy if MIN winning streak continues, he would not mind that he gets potato (0 points) every time while his team collects a win. I am sure he will start playing better soon because he cant do less than what he showed lately. He did improved his D and some decision making stuff is better but arguable he is still one of the worsts if not THE worst player on the team.
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Popovich wrote:Nemanja is happy if MIN winning streak continues, he would not mind that he gets potato (0 points) every time while his team collects a win. I am sure he will start playing better soon because he cant do less than what he showed lately. He did improved his D and some decision making stuff is better but arguable he is still one of the worsts if not THE worst player on the team.
He is not the worst player on the team But he hasn't been very good either.
Advanced stats show that he's been slightly below average player this season. The talent is there, he need more confidence and to play more with Rubio and Towns.
On the plus side, he looks like he gained some muscle in the upper body.
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Interview of the year!
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He a good defender. Needs to work on his shot and offensive composure.
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3 steals one turnover for now for Bjelica, second half starting right now.
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I always kinda hoped that Bjelica could do something similar or to become closer to Bodiroga's game. Burt really he did not yet managed to replicate that signature and patented Bodiroga's dribbling called "the whip" .
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Is he going to be resigned? If so at what price?
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Is he going to be resigned? If so at what price?
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