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Can anyone tell me what's going on with him? When the Warriors drafted him & thought this kid was special. I keep watching your box score & see AR playing less or not at all.

He is still that player where his athletic abilities are All-Star worthy, but his BBIQ is the same as a 2-year old. I really hope he can put it together someday, but he really hasn't show any progress in his time here.

kevin44 wrote:Can anyone tell me what's going on with him? When the Warriors drafted him & thought this kid was special. I keep watching your box score & see AR playing less or not at all.

He shines in garbage time and shows off his talent when the game is not on the line.

It's a combination of two things:
1. Adelman is playing to win. Which means a lot of time for Love and Pek. Not as much time for Williams, AR is the odd man out.
2. He doesn't play team ball too often. Settles for too many jumpers and creates bad possessions.

On top of having a BBall IQ of a two year old, he's inconsistent as it gets. One night he's playing really well (like 15+ points and 10 boards in 25 minutes) and the next night he's 1 of 7 from the field, committing turnovers left and right, committing stupid fouls and the whole package.

Inconsistent play or not, I would much, much, much rather give him Tolliver, Miller or Darko's minutes. I don't care how low his BBIQ may be, he still creates more positive plays than those three combined. I'm not ready to give him 20 minutes a night, but he's one of the few players this team has than can play with energy and play above the rim. Randolph was at his best playing with a PG that creates and I thought played well with Rubio. The minute Rubio started playing with the starters more, Randolph went down the toilet.

Fire Mchale wrote:Inconsistent play or not, I would much, much, much rather give him Tolliver, Miller or Darko's minutes.

Which minutes? Tolliver, Miller and Darko are barely playing these days. And Darko can at least play very good defense in certain matchups, for example, the way Darko played on Griffin against Clippers is simply not possible for AR

Richard Miller wrote:

Fire Mchale wrote:Inconsistent play or not, I would much, much, much rather give him Tolliver, Miller or Darko's minutes.

Which minutes? Tolliver, Miller and Darko are barely playing these days. And Darko can at least play very good defense in certain matchups, for example, the way Darko played on Griffin against Clippers is simply not possible for AR

Yeah Adelman runs a tight ship. He knows who to play now. These guys are fighting for scraps.

Thanks for the insight on AR. I still believe he can make an impact in the NBA. I see him as a 6th man role like Odom if he can get his game together. I have a feeling he won't be on this team much longer.

funkatron101 wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:

Fire Mchale wrote:Inconsistent play or not, I would much, much, much rather give him Tolliver, Miller or Darko's minutes.

Which minutes? Tolliver, Miller and Darko are barely playing these days. And Darko can at least play very good defense in certain matchups, for example, the way Darko played on Griffin against Clippers is simply not possible for AR

Yeah Adelman runs a tight ship. He knows who to play now. These guys are fighting for scraps.

he knows how to ride 3 pgs down the stretch in close games. we are so lucky Hayward didnt demolish little ole 6 foot 2 luke ridnour the way the nuggets did.
we havent seen enough of randolph to see what he can and can not do.

I have. He's trade bait if you ask me.

I was one of the few clamoring for him to get his minutes back when Adelman initially started giving him DNPs. I realize he's got a low BB IQ, but so does Webster. Randolph brings things to the table that NONE of our other bigs do. Look at Love, Pek, Darko, Miller, Tolliver...no one would call any one of those guys athletic. Randolph is a freak athlete with naturaly basketball skill and talents.

With that said, I only want him on the court when Rubio is out there. He always seemed to be in the right place at the right time earlier in the season with Ricky on the court with him. He makes big-time hustle plays and has too much upside to be rotting on the bench game after game in my opinion.

I give Adelman credit for turning the ship around so fast, but my biggest complaint with him all season has been some of his rotations. I wish AR would get some more playing time. Love and Pek are going to be dead tired a month before the season ends if they keep playing as much as they have been. With talented players on the bench like AR and D-Will, they shouldn't have to play 40+ mpg.

But I trust Adelman. We don't see what goes on during practice or anything of that sort. There may be other contributing factors why AR never plays anymore.

Fire Mchale wrote:Inconsistent play or not, I would much, much, much rather give him Tolliver, Miller or Darko's minutes.

I'll maybe give you Tolliver, but not Miller or Darko.

Besides, in the last 8 games, these three have combined to play a total of 29 minutes. Thats 73 seconds per game per player. If you are worried about Adelman not giving Randolph that much time, you'd think that would send a message of how badly he's played this year.

kmgarnett21 wrote:Randolph is a freak athlete with natural basketball skill and talents.

So is Gerald Green, but where did that get him?

Klomp wrote:

kmgarnett21 wrote:Randolph is a freak athlete with natural basketball skill and talents.

So is Gerald Green, but where did that get him?

True. I don't argue that one bit. But am I wrong in saying that earlier in the season, AR seemed to have a connection with Rubio that none of the other bigs have/had? And I'm also right in that he's our best athlete at the F position along with Williams. I just don't think AR will get better if he never has the chance to. I don't understand why, when Tolliver comes in, that it's him over AR b/c in my opinion, AR brings more to the table than Tolliver does. They both make stupid plays, but AR's positives greatly outnumber Tolliver's.

But like I said, I believe that Adelman has a reason for his rotations even if we can't sometimes figure them out or understand them one bit.

The biggest thing about tolliver is that he knows what his role is when he gets on the court. He hustles, he only shoots wide open 3 pointers(although he can't make them), he plays active defense, and he's physical. Seems to be engaged on the bench when not playing. He's consistently average.

Randolph struggles with his role, and no doubt its partially adelman's fault/responsibility. And if Randolph accepted that his job is to play defense, rebound, and fly around looking for dunks than I think he would succeed and play much more. But seems 'everytime' he plays, he dribbles the ball up the court coast to coast and commits a turnover, takes turnaround J's from about 15-18 feet. And his effort level isn't always there, he's lethargic at times. (unless of course he is on the fastbreak.) He just struggles in the half-court offense.

I do think his personality turns people off too, he's sort of aloof. Looks disengaged at times on the bench. I think by now, its just his natural look/personality, so I don't blame him, but I think it rubs people the wrong way.

With all of that said, I don't have problems if he takes tolliver's minutes. I just don't trust him enough yet to say that he needs to play a larger role on our team.

kmgarnett21 wrote:I was one of the few clamoring for him to get his minutes back when Adelman initially started giving him DNPs. I realize he's got a low BB IQ, but so does Webster. Randolph brings things to the table that NONE of our other bigs do. Look at Love, Pek, Darko, Miller, Tolliver...no one would call any one of those guys athletic. Randolph is a freak athlete with naturaly basketball skill and talents.

With that said, I only want him on the court when Rubio is out there. He always seemed to be in the right place at the right time earlier in the season with Ricky on the court with him. He makes big-time hustle plays and has too much upside to be rotting on the bench game after game in my opinion.

I give Adelman credit for turning the ship around so fast, but my biggest complaint with him all season has been some of his rotations. I wish AR would get some more playing time. Love and Pek are going to be dead tired a month before the season ends if they keep playing as much as they have been. With talented players on the bench like AR and D-Will, they shouldn't have to play 40+ mpg.

But I trust Adelman. We don't see what goes on during practice or anything of that sort. There may be other contributing factors why AR never plays anymore.

I agree with your take, well said.

Richard Miller wrote:

Fire Mchale wrote:Inconsistent play or not, I would much, much, much rather give him Tolliver, Miller or Darko's minutes.

Which minutes? Tolliver, Miller and Darko are barely playing these days. And Darko can at least play very good defense in certain matchups, for example, the way Darko played on Griffin against Clippers is simply not possible for AR

yeah, we aren't talking about 30 minutes a night here, but we're talking more than a guy in a suit gets....

He hasn't played in a month & I see he had 12 points 9 rebounds against the Lakers. Did he play when the game over or did he actually get to play with the starters?

Played with the starters for about half the time i believe.

I still don't get why Tolliver is ahead of Randolph in the rotation. Makes absolutely no sense. Even if Tolliver outperforms Randolph in practice, Adelman should see what we all see, and that is that Randolph plays better than Tolliver does.