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MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:42 pm
by Dewey
Why not skip the Lakers and just swap some spit with Portland ... If Ridnour is rumored in any deals (after Rube injury), I gotta hunch it's got it;s own motives. Portland wants potential cap space.

Incoming Players
Michael Beasley
Brad Miller
Luke Ridnour

Outgoing Players
Raymond Felton
Jamal Crawford
Nicolas Batum


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... z1pByrhsF0

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:48 pm
by C.lupus
They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:08 pm
by WetWildandWeird
C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.


Well there is a chance it just involves chloroform and/or blackmail

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:08 pm
by Esohny
C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.


Agreed.

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:17 pm
by Dewey
C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.


I agree they may not likely do it, but I don't think they are plotting to "make space for signing Batum".

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:45 pm
by Wizenheimer
Dewey wrote:
C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.


I agree they may not likely do it, but I don't think they are plotting to "make space for signing Batum".


the Blazers have every intention of re-signing Batum. of course, they haven't seen what offers he gets yet

But the important thing to keep in mind is that Portland wants cap-space this summer and Batum's 5 million dollar cap-hold as a RFA will be significantly less then what his new salary will be. So it made sense not to extend his rookie deal this season

your trade is a non-starter for the Blazers. They'd have little interest in Beasley, and no interest at all in trading Batum.

As far as the rumored deal, as a Blazer fan, I'm betting (hoping) that if the Lakers continue to insist on Portland taking Blake, the deal is DOA

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:56 pm
by abrewbro68
Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:07 pm
by Krapinsky
abrewbro68 wrote:Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?


They'll also need to find a starting point and starting center.

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:16 pm
by abrewbro68
Krapinsky wrote:
abrewbro68 wrote:Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?


They'll also need to find a starting point and starting center.



They have space to do that, Batum is a RFA.

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:13 pm
by theGreatRC
abrewbro68 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:
abrewbro68 wrote:Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?


They'll also need to find a starting point and starting center.



They have space to do that, Batum is a RFA.


Just because you're a RFA, doesn't mean it doesn't count on the cap. Only good thing about RFA is that you can match any offer a team makes to them or offer them a good contract even if you didn't have a lot of cap room. (If the owner is willing to pay luxury tax.)

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:23 pm
by ritt0093
The only problem with RFA is that you must match an offer within a certain window. So if a team offers Batum a contract (and he accpets) on day 1 of free agency, the Blazers would have 3 days to match. If they match he would then count against their cap at the new rate. So their "extra" cap space only exists as long as Batum is unsigned + 3 days.

I think...

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:24 pm
by abrewbro68
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Just because you're a RFA, doesn't mean it doesn't count on the cap. Only good thing about RFA is that you can match any offer a team makes to them or offer them a good contract even if you didn't have a lot of cap room. (If the owner is willing to pay luxury tax.)[/quote]


Of course it counts against the cap space. But the Blazers have his rights. They don't need to clear space to resign their own players when they have his rights.

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:30 pm
by abrewbro68
ritt0093 wrote:The only problem with RFA is that you must match an offer within a certain window. So if a team offers Batum a contract (and he accpets) on day 1 of free agency, the Blazers would have 3 days to match. If they match he would then count against their cap at the new rate. So their "extra" cap space only exists as long as Batum is unsigned + 3 days.

I think...



The extra cap space only becomes actual cap space if you waive Batums rights, but then at the same time you could not sign him to a contract that could potentially put you over the cap.

Re: MN/Portland

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:04 am
by Shem
Giving up Batum and taking in Beasley were the killers of that trade idea.