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MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:42 pm
by Dewey
Why not skip the Lakers and just swap some spit with Portland ... If Ridnour is rumored in any deals (after Rube injury), I gotta hunch it's got it;s own motives. Portland wants potential cap space.
Incoming Players
Michael Beasley
Brad Miller
Luke Ridnour
Outgoing Players
Raymond Felton
Jamal Crawford
Nicolas Batum
Read more:
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... z1pByrhsF0
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:48 pm
by C.lupus
They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:08 pm
by WetWildandWeird
C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.
Well there is a chance it just involves chloroform and/or blackmail
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:08 pm
by Esohny
C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.
Agreed.
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:17 pm
by Dewey
C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.
I agree they may not likely do it, but I don't think they are plotting to "make space for signing Batum".
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:45 pm
by Wizenheimer
Dewey wrote:C.lupus wrote:They want potential cap space to re-sign Batum. No chance they do this.
I agree they may not likely do it, but I don't think they are plotting to "make space for signing Batum".
the Blazers have every intention of re-signing Batum. of course, they haven't seen what offers he gets yet
But the important thing to keep in mind is that Portland wants cap-space this summer and Batum's 5 million dollar cap-hold as a RFA will be significantly less then what his new salary will be. So it made sense not to extend his rookie deal this season
your trade is a non-starter for the Blazers. They'd have little interest in Beasley, and no interest at all in trading Batum.
As far as the rumored deal, as a Blazer fan, I'm betting (hoping) that if the Lakers continue to insist on Portland taking Blake, the deal is DOA
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:56 pm
by abrewbro68
Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:07 pm
by Krapinsky
abrewbro68 wrote:Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?
They'll also need to find a starting point and starting center.
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:16 pm
by abrewbro68
Krapinsky wrote:abrewbro68 wrote:Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?
They'll also need to find a starting point and starting center.
They have space to do that, Batum is a RFA.
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:13 pm
by theGreatRC
abrewbro68 wrote:Krapinsky wrote:abrewbro68 wrote:Why would the Blazers need cap space, to resign their own player?
They'll also need to find a starting point and starting center.
They have space to do that, Batum is a RFA.
Just because you're a RFA, doesn't mean it doesn't count on the cap. Only good thing about RFA is that you can match any offer a team makes to them or offer them a good contract even if you didn't have a lot of cap room. (If the owner is willing to pay luxury tax.)
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:23 pm
by ritt0093
The only problem with RFA is that you must match an offer within a certain window. So if a team offers Batum a contract (and he accpets) on day 1 of free agency, the Blazers would have 3 days to match. If they match he would then count against their cap at the new rate. So their "extra" cap space only exists as long as Batum is unsigned + 3 days.
I think...
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:24 pm
by abrewbro68
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Just because you're a RFA, doesn't mean it doesn't count on the cap. Only good thing about RFA is that you can match any offer a team makes to them or offer them a good contract even if you didn't have a lot of cap room. (If the owner is willing to pay luxury tax.)[/quote]
Of course it counts against the cap space. But the Blazers have his rights. They don't need to clear space to resign their own players when they have his rights.
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:30 pm
by abrewbro68
ritt0093 wrote:The only problem with RFA is that you must match an offer within a certain window. So if a team offers Batum a contract (and he accpets) on day 1 of free agency, the Blazers would have 3 days to match. If they match he would then count against their cap at the new rate. So their "extra" cap space only exists as long as Batum is unsigned + 3 days.
I think...
The extra cap space only becomes actual cap space if you waive Batums rights, but then at the same time you could not sign him to a contract that could potentially put you over the cap.
Re: MN/Portland
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:04 am
by Shem
Giving up Batum and taking in Beasley were the killers of that trade idea.