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MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:30 pm
by [RCG]
EDIT: Swapped Afflalo in for Redick and flipped Barea & M.Lee.

MN out: Williams, Barea, Cunningham, M.Lee, '13 1st
MN in: Varejao, Afflalo

CLE out: Varejao
CLE in: M.Lee, Cunningham, MN '13 1st, ORL 1st

ORL out: Afflalo, ORL 1st (presumably one of the 1sts they received in D.Howard trade)
ORL in: Williams, Barea

Cleveland cuts salary and will have a lot of cap-space next offseason. Ideally they get one more lottery-pick, add high $ FAs and are set. Cunningham gives them a high energy reserve to replace Varejao and they pick up a couple 1sts.
For Orlando, Williams is a high-upside prospect that Magic should be looking for. Their pick isn't likely to be great for him but its a low-risk move for them.
Minnesota gets two very solid players who help them to win now. Afflalo helps to solidify the SG position and gives them a very good perimeter defender and outside shooter to pair with Kirilenko and Varejao has been a rumor here for awhile now.

(Rubio)/Ridnour/Shved/(Conroy?)
Afflalo/Roy/Shved
Kirilenko/Budinger
Love/Varejao/Kirilenko
Pekovic/Varejao/Stiemsma

We'd look to bring Tolliver back. Also at Derek Fisher, Matt Barnes to fill out the roster.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:38 pm
by Krapinsky
No, just because we'd only have one black guy on the team and I don't want to hear about that anymore.

Think Orlando is getting too good of a deal here.

Williams for 1 year of Redick and a non-lotto first? No way. We would just cut them out of the deal if Cleveland would take that crap for Varejao.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:39 pm
by The J Rocka
You just see what Dwight was traded for? We should be able to get Redick for free pretty much.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:41 pm
by the_bruce
I don't think AV has this sort of trade value, he's a better Biedrins. I think CLE would be lucky to get expirings. something like this...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=9bxlwyv

He's not a bad player, but he's injured a lot and is overpaid ~3m a year.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:11 am
by ieatchildrenraw
I think Afflalo is ineligible to be traded by ORL for a few months

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:19 am
by trevor0333
Turkoglu & 2 1sts for Williams/Barea/Lee

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:49 am
by [RCG]
trevor0333 wrote:Turkoglu & 2 1sts for Williams/Barea/Lee


If they're Orlando's top-1 protected picks in '13 & 15 then we can talk. If they are the picks the Magic got from the Dwight trade then its not even close.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:11 pm
by HotelVitale
the_bruce wrote:I don't think AV has this sort of trade value...I think CLE would be lucky to get expirings. something like this...He's not a bad player, but he's injured a lot and is overpaid ~3m a year.

Way out of touch about Varejao's value. He's a great defender and rebounder, had a PER of 19 last year and averaged around 12/11 per 36 the last few years. He's better than half of the starting centers in the league, making him definitely worth his $8m per year.

That said, I think the Magic would be interested in this trade if Cleveland were to bite. Afflalo doesn't do much for them and might actually make them a bit better; since DW won't be great for a few years (if he ever is), he fits both the full-on tank mode ORL is in and helps the youth movement.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:24 pm
by Esohny
:lol:

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:06 pm
by dunkonu21
ieatchildrenraw wrote:I think Afflalo is ineligible to be traded by ORL for a few months


Your name is creepy...I bet u don't talk like that in public, why do you do it on here? Ru trying to be funny, ironic or literal. No matter what, I wouldn't hang out with you, period.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:54 am
by MitchInMinny
dunkonu21 wrote:Your name is creepy...I bet u don't talk like that in public, why do you do it on here? Ru trying to be funny, ironic or literal. No matter what, I wouldn't hang out with you, period.
ieat was just trying to contribute and you should keep it on topic. If you have an issue with his s/n bring it up via PM.

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:01 am
by Klomp
MitchInMinny wrote:
dunkonu21 wrote:Your name is creepy...I bet u don't talk like that in public, why do you do it on here? Ru trying to be funny, ironic or literal. No matter what, I wouldn't hang out with you, period.
ieat was just trying to contribute and you should keep it on topic. If you have an issue with his s/n bring it up via PM.

And you shouldn't backseat mod. So there... :naaa:

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:14 am
by ieatchildrenraw
Just to clarify, I don't actually eat children

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:04 am
by [RCG]
dunkonu21 wrote:
ieatchildrenraw wrote:I think Afflalo is ineligible to be traded by ORL for a few months


Your name is creepy...I bet u don't talk like that in public, why do you do it on here? Ru trying to be funny, ironic or literal. No matter what, I wouldn't hang out with you, period.


:-?

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:20 am
by LaViggins
dunkonu21 wrote:
ieatchildrenraw wrote:I think Afflalo is ineligible to be traded by ORL for a few months


Your name is creepy...I bet u don't talk like that in public, why do you do it on here? Ru trying to be funny, ironic or literal. No matter what, I wouldn't hang out with you, period.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:26 am
by Narf
ieatchildrenraw wrote:Just to clarify, I don't actually eat children
Wus

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:34 am
by Yes We Kahn
Narf wrote:
ieatchildrenraw wrote:Just to clarify, I don't actually eat children
Wus

:lol:

Re: MN/CLE/ORL

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:10 am
by ieatchildrenraw
Narf wrote:
ieatchildrenraw wrote:Just to clarify, I don't actually eat children
Wus


:lol:

dunkonu21 wrote:No matter what, I wouldn't hang out with you, period.


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