Around the League: 2012-2013

southern wolf · Post #81 » by **southern wolf** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:33 pm

Pretty good opening day games, although I'm still not sure how Cleveland and Washington snuck their way in there. Varejao's stat line stuck out to me, I can't remember the last time I saw anything like it.

EddyCool · Post #82 » by **EddyCool** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:12 pm

Harden signs for the 5-year max. That seems pretty dumb.

I get Harden being a max-money player, but I wouldn't want to be locking him up with it while still looking to add significant talent. Do the Rockets think they're set for the future with Harden/Lin/Asik taking up $30 million on the cap next year?

Krapinsky · Post #83 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:36 pm

In hindsight, now it seems like a lot to give up for the right to pay Harden a 5 year max. I'f i'm Houston I don't do any of those signings -- Asik, Lin, or Harden -- and I just tank the year while developing all the young guys.

Post #84 » by **Klomp** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:41 pm

Krapinsky wrote:In hindsight, now it seems like a lot to give up for the right to pay Harden a 5 year max.

I agree, in the long run. This year, the trade helps the West because OKC won't be as formidable right away. But long term, the Martin salary helps them, Lamb will step into the Harden role in a couple years, and those picks just help them reload.

BTW if they let Martin expire and amnesty Perkins as expected, they will be under the cap.

Post #85 » by **Klomp** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:48 pm

Just for fun, I'm looking at the age of the OKC roster

Collison - 32
Martin - 29
Sefolosha - 28
Perkins - 27
Thabeet - 25
Maynor - 25
Liggins - 24
Durant - 24
Westbrook - 23
Ibaka - 23
Jackson - 22
Orton - 22
Jones III - 21
Lamb - 20

Krapinsky · Post #86 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:26 pm

$40+ M/4 for Derozan seems like a bad overpay. Yikes.

Esohny · Post #87 » by **Esohny** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:31 pm

Krapinsky wrote:$40+ M/4 for Derozan seems like a bad overpay. Yikes.

Yikes indeed.

cpfsf · Post #88 » by **cpfsf** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 12:15 am

Esohny wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:$40+ M/4 for Derozan seems like a bad overpay. Yikes.

Yikes indeed.

The original plan was to acquire Steve Nash. Once Nash headed to LA, Colangelo had all this Steve Nash money lying around. Apparently he offered every penny and more to DeRozan.

Should have waited till next year. Theoretically it's possible he'd improve his value so much he'd be worth more, but it's far more likely that they just overpaid.

Esohny · Post #89 » by **Esohny** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 1:15 am

Harden looking really good as "the guy" in his Rockets debut.

Post #90 » by **The J Rocka** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 1:48 am

DD really showed he was worth the 10 mil scoring 10 points on 5-14 shooting ...

Post #91 » by **Calinks** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 1:56 am

Harden,... my God!

LordBaldric · Post #92 » by **LordBaldric** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 2:15 am

Man, I wish we had been able to land Harden.

Post #93 » by **The J Rocka** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 2:34 am

LordBaldric wrote:Man, I wish we had been able to land Harden.

Too bad we couldn't land Varajao and move Pek + assets for Harden. Love + Rubio + Harden is quite the combo but we'd find ourselves in the same situation as the Thunder once Rubio is due for a new contract.

Post #94 » by **Klomp** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 2:53 am

Funny how the ESPN guys are saying Toronto made a good move with that extension.

Harden's statline surprised me, but maybe I shouldn't be surprised since he's "the guy." Who else is there to take shots in Houston?!

Esohny · Post #95 » by **Esohny** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 3:32 am

The J Rocka wrote:
LordBaldric wrote:Man, I wish we had been able to land Harden.

Too bad we couldn't land Varajao and move Pek + assets for Harden. Love + Rubio + Harden is quite the combo but we'd find ourselves in the same situation as the Thunder once Rubio is due for a new contract.

Man, it would sure suck to have to pay to keep a contender made up of all young guys together.

Post #96 » by **Calinks** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 3:48 am

Batum goin off!

Post #97 » by **Calinks** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 4:38 am

Beasley benched in first game of the season. Wesley Johnson doesn't even see the floor.

Esohny · Post #98 » by **Esohny** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 4:42 am

Calinks wrote:Beasley benched in first game of the season. Wesley Johnson doesn't even see the floor.

Get right out of town.

Post #99 » by **Klomp** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 4:54 am

Esohny wrote:
Calinks wrote:Beasley benched in first game of the season. Wesley Johnson doesn't even see the floor.

Get right out of town.

Shocker!

NikolaPekovic · Post #100 » by **NikolaPekovic** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 5:39 am

well james harden just lowered our playoff chances...