MIN - TOR - DET .. More excitement!
Posted: Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:18 pm
I noticed on the trade board that a smart TOR poster is reaching the conclusion I came to a few months ago -- that Calderon is not a fit with the Raptors. Here's his post:
A 3-team Calderon trade with TOR - DET - ??? reminded me of my much-discussed trade from a few months ago, but this one has an interesting spin, sending Calderon to DET. Calderon as a starter there makes some sense, so I played with the old trade, and came up with something interesting:
TOR GIVES: Calderon (exp)
TOR GETS: Barea + $6.1 mil TPE
DET GIVES: Maggette (exp) + Andre Drummond
DET GETS: Calderon (exp) + Derrick Williams
MIN GIVES: Derrick Williams + Barea
MIN GETS: Andre Drummond + Maggette (exp)
Why for TOR? Calderon needs to go - he simply can't justify that salary in back-up minutes. Barea (or Ridnour, I don't care) is well-worth his salary so they are getting a piece with better trade value. TOR may blanche at losing cap space next season, however they would need to pay "somebody" to play back-up PG, and Barea is a reaosnable. Better yet, they they save $6.1 mil right now, and get that TPE.
Why for DET? Calderon is overpaid, but he's certainly a better player at the same price than Maggette right now. Calderon would become the starter, and mentor Brandon Knight. Drummond, the 9th pick in draft, is exciting, but center is the one position DET already has a star in, with Greg Monroe. Williams seems like a nice fit in DET. They want young upside players like Drummond, but their starting PF is Jason Maxiel and SF is Tayshaun Prince. Yuck.
Why for MIN? Does Williams still carry trade value close to Drummond? If so, Drummond might be a nice fit. He's got good upside, he's cheap, and he saves us the money necessary to sign Pek, Buddinger, MLE and 1st, and still stay under the lux (see other post on finances). Drummond fits our need for a third center. Maggette will have limited usefulness besides his expiring, but I imagine he can still play 15-20 minutes of driving to the hoop and picking up fouls. The deal though is for a good center prospect and moving long-term salary to get the financial flexibility we'll need next year. For me, the questions are - can we get by at PG until Rubio gets back, and does Williams still have the trade value for this?
Dr Positivity wrote:I think the time is finally right for Detroit to trade for Jose Calderon. He'd fit into their lineup like a glove allowing them a 3 guard rotation of Calderon, Knight and Stuckey, with Knight transitioning to a 2 guard role beside Calderon. Then there's the fact that they have the Maggette contract, an almost identical expiring to Calderon's
Also Toronto really needs to trade Calderon. Having Lowry, Calderon and Lucas III in the rotation is leading to a double PG lineup, while Ross (who'd otherwise be backup 2) is thus out of the rotation. The team has one too many Jose Calderons. We're not putting Maggette in the lineup though. Team supports ball movement
Who can possibly complete the Calderon, Maggette, Mal Pornagrafía expiring sh*t sandwich deal?
A 3-team Calderon trade with TOR - DET - ??? reminded me of my much-discussed trade from a few months ago, but this one has an interesting spin, sending Calderon to DET. Calderon as a starter there makes some sense, so I played with the old trade, and came up with something interesting:
TOR GIVES: Calderon (exp)
TOR GETS: Barea + $6.1 mil TPE
DET GIVES: Maggette (exp) + Andre Drummond
DET GETS: Calderon (exp) + Derrick Williams
MIN GIVES: Derrick Williams + Barea
MIN GETS: Andre Drummond + Maggette (exp)
Why for TOR? Calderon needs to go - he simply can't justify that salary in back-up minutes. Barea (or Ridnour, I don't care) is well-worth his salary so they are getting a piece with better trade value. TOR may blanche at losing cap space next season, however they would need to pay "somebody" to play back-up PG, and Barea is a reaosnable. Better yet, they they save $6.1 mil right now, and get that TPE.
Why for DET? Calderon is overpaid, but he's certainly a better player at the same price than Maggette right now. Calderon would become the starter, and mentor Brandon Knight. Drummond, the 9th pick in draft, is exciting, but center is the one position DET already has a star in, with Greg Monroe. Williams seems like a nice fit in DET. They want young upside players like Drummond, but their starting PF is Jason Maxiel and SF is Tayshaun Prince. Yuck.
Why for MIN? Does Williams still carry trade value close to Drummond? If so, Drummond might be a nice fit. He's got good upside, he's cheap, and he saves us the money necessary to sign Pek, Buddinger, MLE and 1st, and still stay under the lux (see other post on finances). Drummond fits our need for a third center. Maggette will have limited usefulness besides his expiring, but I imagine he can still play 15-20 minutes of driving to the hoop and picking up fouls. The deal though is for a good center prospect and moving long-term salary to get the financial flexibility we'll need next year. For me, the questions are - can we get by at PG until Rubio gets back, and does Williams still have the trade value for this?