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Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:20 pm
by lobishome
LordBaldric wrote:I'm starting to think Shved might be better than Rubio and also have more upside.
Turnover_21 wrote:Same here. He's so skilled. But then I remind myself that he's already 24. I wonder how much room is there for improvement. Next season he must make a big jump because we should be fully acclimated in the US. If doesn't make big improvements next year then I think he's on the schedule to be a Jamal Crawford level player
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:04 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
luckily we saved that 5 year max for Shved. Great foresight by Kahn.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 6:19 pm
by Basti
What I really like about his game is that even when his shot is completely off, he still has a major impact offensively. Maybe not as much as Rubio as a passer/team general but in combination with his other offensive skills it isn't far fetched to say Shved is indeed a better player right now. Rubio, however, has more potential.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 6:52 pm
by C.lupus
Well of course Shved is better right now. He isnt coming off knee surgery. Luke and JJ are better than Rubio right now.Shved is not better than a healthy Rubio though. He's a better scorer but that is it. Rubio is a better passer and defender.
Re: AW: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:27 pm
by cojayar
Perception.
It's all about perception.
Shved, a good shooter, averaging 10.4 pts with 39% FG and 32% 3PT.
Rubio, a bad shooter, averaged last season 10.6 pts wit 36% FG and 35% 3PT.
And last season was a "bad" season for everybody related to % due to the condensed package.
The expectation of many people who did not have a clue about Shved was low. On Rubio was high. Even achieving the same, people would not valuate it at the same level.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:00 pm
by Varejao17
Even though I like Shved very much and think he's, with Pekovic and Kirilenko, our 3 best players of the season right now, you guys are going too far saying that he's better than Rubio IMO... He's a very good passer but not near Rubio's level, ahd the scoring Alexey have is not that hard to find... Not taking anything away from him, but Rubio is Rubio...
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:10 pm
by LordBaldric
Rubio's TS% Last year was .476, worse than Wes Johnson's. FACT
Shved is at .514, nothing to write home about, but worlds better than Rubio. FACT
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:13 pm
by Esohny
LordBaldric wrote:Rubio's TS% Last year was .476, worse than Wes Johnson's. FACT
Shved is at .514, nothing to write home about, but worlds better than Rubio. FACT
Sweet potato fries are **** amazing. FACT.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:15 pm
by LordBaldric
Esohny wrote:LordBaldric wrote:Rubio's TS% Last year was .476, worse than Wes Johnson's. FACT
Shved is at .514, nothing to write home about, but worlds better than Rubio. FACT
Sweet potato fries are **** amazing. FACT.
Sweet potatoes are for knuckle draggers.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:33 pm
by Esohny
LordBaldric wrote:Esohny wrote:LordBaldric wrote:Rubio's TS% Last year was .476, worse than Wes Johnson's. FACT
Shved is at .514, nothing to write home about, but worlds better than Rubio. FACT
Sweet potato fries are **** amazing. FACT.
Sweet potatoes are for knuckle draggers.
FACT?
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:57 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
yes rubio can't shoot, but remember all those games when Ridnour was in and we'd be down 12 and Rubio would come in and we'd go on a run to erase the deficit - it was like clockwork. His ability to run a team is almost irreplaceable. (fact)
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:04 pm
by zubinho
Ok, seriously now - I think Shved is great passer. He has that I.Q. and ability to find open teammates on the floor. I really like his ability to pass of the dribble. When it comes to shooting I think he is average.
Now what I don't like is his energy and movement while playing defense! He seems so sleepy and not willing to do anything. I always have some strange feeling when Minnesota is defending that his guy will be the one that will score. And another thing is his way of defending pick and roll or any screen - always but always he loses his man by hiting the screen. I don't know why but he seems unable to fight/avoid that screens and keep up the pace with his matchup.
All in all he is fearless shooting guard who can spread the floor, draw few fouls and get things going on offensive end of the court by dishing assists. When it comes to defense he will have to step up and work hard because he is smart and he can make right decisions. All he needs to do is work hard. That's not easy but it pays off!
Cheers twolves!
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:05 pm
by NewWolvesOrder
Devilzsidewalk wrote:yes rubio can't shoot, but remember all those games when Ridnour was in and we'd be down 12 and Rubio would come in and we'd go on a run to erase the deficit - it was like clockwork. His ability to run a team is almost irreplaceable. (fact)
Ridnour can't run a team and can't stop nobody so there's no camparison between him and Rubio. Shved can run a team, he's also a better defender so there can be a comparison between him and Rubio.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:07 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Shved is a better defender? you are out of line!
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:11 pm
by [RCG]
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Shved is a better defender? you are out of line!
Agreed.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:21 pm
by NewWolvesOrder
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Shved is a better defender? you are out of line!
on defense Shved>>>>Luke. FACT.
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:26 pm
by Klomp
Turnover_21 wrote:Devilzsidewalk wrote:Shved is a better defender? you are out of line!
on defense Shved>>>>Luke. FACT.
The wording made it look like you thought Shved > Rubio on defense
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:16 pm
by zubinho
Shved vs Hawks
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86_eCz7TCTk[/youtube]
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:56 am
by zubinho
Shved vs Thunder
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKf93I4yuIQ[/youtube]
Re: The Shved Thread!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:03 am
by Murphs56
Shved is very confused when he's in the air trying to make decisions. It usually always leads to a turnover