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Basti wrote:And do you even try to be reasonable in your disdain for Kahn? Your hate for Kahn is unreasonably strong. Way to nitpick the points people have made in this thread.

Tirion wrote:

Basti wrote:And do you even try to be reasonable in your disdain for Kahn? Your hate for Kahn is unreasonably strong. Way to nitpick the points people have made in this thread.

What points? All pro-Kahn retoric on this board can be boiled down to one sentence:

"Yeah, I agree that he's a horrible drafter/talent evaluator, but <insert your BS excuse>"

I mean it's pretty clear, why this is not a viable argument. Talent evaluation, i.e. the ability to tell good players from bad players is crucial for a GM. It doesn't matter what else he does well. It doesn't matter if he's a good negotiator or a financial wizard. If you're in a business of evaluating players and suck at it, then you shouldn't be in it. Period.

cpfsf wrote:yes, we've heard it all before. kahn hasn't done a single thing right in his life. if the anti christ exists, he's definitely it.

Esohny wrote:

cpfsf wrote:yes, we've heard it all before. kahn hasn't done a single thing right in his life. if the anti christ exists, he's definitely it.

Well, that seems awfully unlikely. The Anti-Christ is actually supposed to succeed with his plans of enthralling the world and uniting it under a One World Government, as opposed to failing at everything.

Mattya wrote:http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/The_Scoops_Wolves_may_be_interested_as_Cavs_shop_Anderson_Varejao121412

On the Love situation

A league source was quick to remind me of a statement Kahn made at a breakfast with reporters in June 2009: "On a championship-contending team... Kevin (Love) might be the fourth-best player."

The source's informed theory is that statement, combined with seeing good friends Russell Westbrook and Derrick Rose get five-year extensions, continues to have Love irked. It's definitely not the money.

A front office executive spelled out how Love will benefit financially in the future: "The reality is that while the difference in guaranteed money between the four-year max deal that Love received and the five-year designated player max that Westbrook received is $17,769,374. (Rose was named MVP, so he was able to take advantage of the designated player max where his first year salary is 30% of the salary cap).

"If Kevin does not exercise his option after the 2014-2015 season, he can become an unrestricted free agent and either re-sign with the Timberwolves for five years or another team for four and receive a salary which starts at 30% of the salary cap. Consequently, Kevin may end up getting more money that Russell over the same period."

As for whether Love will sign an extension before the summer of 2015, the source said, "Kevin could sign an extension prior to declining his option for the 2015-16 season. That extension would be for three years and he could not get any additional money in '15-'16 unless the Wolves were under the cap, which they won't be.

"I don't consider Kevin signing an extension a likely scenario -- see Atlanta's Josh Smith. The extension can only be for four years, including the current years of the contract. If he waits until the end of the '14-'15 season and becomes a free agent, he can re-sign with the Timberwolves for five years (likely for $100 million-plus) or another team for four years. Most players at that stage of their career are prepared to wait and sign for five, or four years."

C.lupus wrote:
The bolded statement is baffling to me. I see it over and over and it must be true. What I don't get is why Love would take such offense at that. In 2009, Love probably was a fourth best player on a championship team, maybe third. He has since improved his game and his physique annually and that is no longer the case. I just don't get hanging on to a statement well after all the mitigating variables have changed. Kevin needs to get over that.

After Kevin’s freshman season Stan Love began expressing displeasure over the lack of playing time given to his older brother, Collin, who was a junior. He threatened to have Kevin transfer to another high school if Shoff wasn’t terminated. He also posted “Fire Shoff” stickers in the foyer of the gymnasium.

In the end, Shoff retained his job, Stan apologized and the two formed a friendship that continues today. During an interview last week, Kevin credited Shoff for much of his success.

“Stan just said, ‘Hey, I’m sorry. I was over the top,’” Shoff said. “It was over after that. I think Stan has taken some hits from it, which shouldn’t be the case. He apologized. That was enough.”

It also helped that Kevin was blessed with uncanny strength, some of which he achieved by doing finger-tip push-ups.

cpfsf wrote:

Tirion wrote:

Basti wrote:And do you even try to be reasonable in your disdain for Kahn? Your hate for Kahn is unreasonably strong. Way to nitpick the points people have made in this thread.

What points? All pro-Kahn retoric on this board can be boiled down to one sentence:

"Yeah, I agree that he's a horrible drafter/talent evaluator, but <insert your BS excuse>"

I mean it's pretty clear, why this is not a viable argument. Talent evaluation, i.e. the ability to tell good players from bad players is crucial for a GM. It doesn't matter what else he does well. It doesn't matter if he's a good negotiator or a financial wizard. If you're in a business of evaluating players and suck at it, then you shouldn't be in it. Period.

yes, we've heard it all before. kahn hasn't done a single thing right in his life. if the anti christ exists, he's definitely it.

Tirion wrote:
Yeah, let's not acknowledge anything I said.

Let's not make counter points (cause we don't have any).

Let's go straight to "You have a vendetta against Kahn" defense.

And that's why this is not a discussion.

Blind homerism and stubbornness.

theGreatRC wrote:It's pretty annoying seeing all this Love hate, it's gotten to a point where I don't even think I can read the board anymore.

Tirion wrote:Yeah, let's not acknowledge anything I said.

Let's not make counter points (cause we don't have any).

Let's go straight to "You have a vendetta against Kahn" defense.

And that's why this is not a discussion.

Blind homerism and stubbornness.

theGreatRC wrote:It's pretty annoying seeing all this Love hate, it's gotten to a point where I don't even think I can read the board anymore.

NewWolves wrote:

cpfsf wrote:i almost made a proposal for a love/ak47/shved for artest/gasol swap. i didn't think they'd fall for it.

Really? I think that's an awful trade for us. Maybe if you take out AK or Shved.

cpfsf wrote:

NewWolves wrote:

cpfsf wrote:i almost made a proposal for a love/ak47/shved for artest/gasol swap. i didn't think they'd fall for it.

Really? I think that's an awful trade for us. Maybe if you take out AK or Shved.

my post was a joke. it wasn't a very good one.