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Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:39 pm
by Klomp
The Minnesota Timberwolves are formalizing the release of Brandon Roy, ridding themselves of the $5.3 million owed him in the 2013-14 season, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
An announcement is expected in the near future.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--timbe ... 49946.html
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:28 pm
by MinotauroBigNog
I figured we were gonna use him in a trade? Guess not
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:27 pm
by Esohny
Shrink is going to be pissed. This is worse than when Kahn wasted that partially guaranteed contract for no reason.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:51 pm
by NewWolvesOrder
Made sense with our salary situation. You just can't add much guaranteed money if you plan to re-sign Pek and Bud.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:00 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Kahn gets a lot of flack, but I thought it was a worthy gamble. Though I got to admit, I got suckered in by his trip to Germany to get the magic Basti Blood spinning treatment.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:18 pm
by SO_MONEY
Turnover_21 wrote:Made sense with our salary situation. You just can't add much guaranteed money if you plan to re-sign Pek and Bud.
Just to let it be known, you could have traded Roy and still reduced the payroll from the prior year. The difference could be applied to either Bud or Pek.
In other words it makes no sense to not in the very least wait and explore options.
Terrible move!
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:25 pm
by NewWolvesOrder
SO_MONEY wrote:Turnover_21 wrote:Made sense with our salary situation. You just can't add much guaranteed money if you plan to re-sign Pek and Bud.
Just to let it be known, you could have traded Roy and still reduced the payroll from the prior year. The difference could be applied to either Bud or Pek.
In other words it makes no sense to not in the very least wait and explore options.
Terrible move!
Pull out your spread sheets and prove me wrong, please.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:25 pm
by Klomp
SO_MONEY wrote:Turnover_21 wrote:Made sense with our salary situation. You just can't add much guaranteed money if you plan to re-sign Pek and Bud.
Just to let it be known, you could have traded Roy and still reduced the payroll from the prior year. The difference could be applied to either Bud or Pek.
In other words it makes no sense to not in the very least wait and explore options.
Terrible move!
The difference? Roy only made $5m last year. Pekovic and Budinger will see their salaries increase by roughly a combined $10m. So no, you couldn't fit another guy in by trading Roy and taking back additional salary unless you're willing to sacrifice Pekovic or Budinger.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:29 pm
by Krapinsky
When did his option have to be exercised??
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:40 pm
by C.lupus
SO_MONEY wrote:Turnover_21 wrote:Made sense with our salary situation. You just can't add much guaranteed money if you plan to re-sign Pek and Bud.
Just to let it be known, you could have traded Roy and still reduced the payroll from the prior year. The difference could be applied to either Bud or Pek.
In other words it makes no sense to not in the very least wait and explore options.
Terrible move!
Do we know other options weren't explored?
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:52 pm
by SO_MONEY
C.lupus wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:Turnover_21 wrote:Made sense with our salary situation. You just can't add much guaranteed money if you plan to re-sign Pek and Bud.
Just to let it be known, you could have traded Roy and still reduced the payroll from the prior year. The difference could be applied to either Bud or Pek.
In other words it makes no sense to not in the very least wait and explore options.
Terrible move!
Do we know other options weren't explored?
Doesn't matter if they were or weren't as long as you have time you have opportunity and we left time/opportunity on the table? off the table? Whatever we took it away as an option.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:21 am
by Klomp
Krapinsky wrote:When did his option have to be exercised??
It was never an option year on the deal. It was just fully unguaranteed
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 am
by SO_MONEY
Turnover_21 wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:Turnover_21 wrote:Made sense with our salary situation. You just can't add much guaranteed money if you plan to re-sign Pek and Bud.
Just to let it be known, you could have traded Roy and still reduced the payroll from the prior year. The difference could be applied to either Bud or Pek.
In other words it makes no sense to not in the very least wait and explore options.
Terrible move!
Pull out your spread sheets and prove me wrong, please.
Huh?
Spreadsheet?
Why would I need to?
Roy + Player X = 10mil
You can trade that salary for a player making let's say 8mil and you save 2mil off the previous year.
Do I still need a spreadsheet for that...I guess I am not totally following?
Are you saying we would be up against the LUX? If so that could be true, there would need to be ancillary moves depending on what we do to be below about 72mil. All very doable though.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 am
by Krapinsky
Klomp wrote:Krapinsky wrote:When did his option have to be exercised??
It was never an option year on the deal. It was just fully unguaranteed
Haha, most Klomp post ever. Ok, then when would it have become guaranteed?
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:33 am
by Klomp
Krapinsky wrote:Klomp wrote:Krapinsky wrote:When did his option have to be exercised??
It was never an option year on the deal. It was just fully unguaranteed
Haha, most Klomp post ever. Ok, then when would it have become guaranteed?
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:40 am
by mandurugo
Esohny wrote:Shrink is going to be pissed. This is worse than when Kahn wasted that partially guaranteed contract for no reason.
Heh, I was thinking the same thing. At least So_Money stepped up! To his point, the timing does seem bad barring more info.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:40 am
by The J Rocka
Krapinsky wrote:Klomp wrote:Krapinsky wrote:When did his option have to be exercised??
It was never an option year on the deal. It was just fully unguaranteed
Haha, most Klomp post ever. Ok, then when would it have become guaranteed?
July 1st, I would think, but maybe I'm wrong.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:44 am
by shrink
Esohny wrote:Shrink is going to be pissed. This is worse than when Kahn wasted that partially guaranteed contract for no reason.
You called it.
There is no upside for the wolves to release Roy, when he has value to another team in trade, by providing instant cap relief.
This is another in a series of unwise use of partial and non-guaranteed contracts.
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:50 am
by jade_hippo
did we sign Roy with capspace or did we get him with an exception?
Re: Brandon Roy to be Released
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:52 am
by Klomp
jade_hippo wrote:did we sign Roy with capspace or did we get him with an exception?
I believe he was the MLE, no?