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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#141 » by thinktank » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:13 am

So I sorted that link and we have the 4th most projected cap space this offseason?
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Re: RE: Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#142 » by Tukkerwolf » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:32 pm

Klomp wrote:I have updated the first post with what I have to be our updated salary cap situation entering the draft.
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Current Salaries
Ricky Rubio - $14,250,000 / $14,950,000
Gorgui Dieng - $14,112,360 / $15,170,787 / $16,229,213 / $17,287,640
Andrew Wiggins - $7,574,323 / $9,846,619 (QuO)
Cole Aldrich - $7,300,000 / $6,956,021 ($2m guar.)
Karl-Anthony Towns - $6,216,840 / $7,839,435 (TO) / $10,191,266 (QuO)
Jordan Hill - $4,180,000 (UnG)
Kris Dunn - $4,046,760 / $4,221,000 (TO) / $5,348,007 (TO) / $7,091,457 (QuO)
Nemanja Bjelica - $3,949,999 / $4,937,499 (QuO)
Zach LaVine - $3,202,218 / $4,428,667 (QuO)
Tyus Jones - $1,397,400 / $5,703,600 (TO) / $5,703,600 (QuO)

Salary Cap Holds and Exceptions
Shabazz Muhammad - $7,615,748 (RFA, Bird)
Brandon Rush - $4,200,000 (UFA, non-Bird)
Adreian Payne - $3,100,094 (UFA, limited Bird)
Omri Casspi - $1,471,382 (UFA, non-Bird)
Kevin Martin - $1,380,305 / $1,380,305 (stretched)
Roster Hold - $562,493
Roster Hold - $562,493

Total Salaries: $66,229,900 (10 contracts)
Total Exceptions/Holds: $18,892,515
2017-18 Cap Number: $85,122,415

Total Cap Space: $16,877,585
Luxury Tax Space: $36,877,585

Note: Hill's contract would become guaranteed if he's still on the roster 10 days from now.

Wow! I'm surprised by the great deal we have Bjelica on. In thought he was making 8 a year.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#143 » by TheDominator273 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:18 pm

Tukkerwolf wrote:
Klomp wrote:I have updated the first post with what I have to be our updated salary cap situation entering the draft.
Spoiler:
Current Salaries
Ricky Rubio - $14,250,000 / $14,950,000
Gorgui Dieng - $14,112,360 / $15,170,787 / $16,229,213 / $17,287,640
Andrew Wiggins - $7,574,323 / $9,846,619 (QuO)
Cole Aldrich - $7,300,000 / $6,956,021 ($2m guar.)
Karl-Anthony Towns - $6,216,840 / $7,839,435 (TO) / $10,191,266 (QuO)
Jordan Hill - $4,180,000 (UnG)
Kris Dunn - $4,046,760 / $4,221,000 (TO) / $5,348,007 (TO) / $7,091,457 (QuO)
Nemanja Bjelica - $3,949,999 / $4,937,499 (QuO)
Zach LaVine - $3,202,218 / $4,428,667 (QuO)
Tyus Jones - $1,397,400 / $5,703,600 (TO) / $5,703,600 (QuO)

Salary Cap Holds and Exceptions
Shabazz Muhammad - $7,615,748 (RFA, Bird)
Brandon Rush - $4,200,000 (UFA, non-Bird)
Adreian Payne - $3,100,094 (UFA, limited Bird)
Omri Casspi - $1,471,382 (UFA, non-Bird)
Kevin Martin - $1,380,305 / $1,380,305 (stretched)
Roster Hold - $562,493
Roster Hold - $562,493

Total Salaries: $66,229,900 (10 contracts)
Total Exceptions/Holds: $18,892,515
2017-18 Cap Number: $85,122,415

Total Cap Space: $16,877,585
Luxury Tax Space: $36,877,585

Note: Hill's contract would become guaranteed if he's still on the roster 10 days from now.

Wow! I'm surprised by the great deal we have Bjelica on. In thought he was making 8 a year.

I believe he's on his rookie contract still which is why it's so little.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#144 » by wolves_89 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:45 pm

lbj273 wrote:
Tukkerwolf wrote:
Klomp wrote:I have updated the first post with what I have to be our updated salary cap situation entering the draft.
Spoiler:
Current Salaries
Ricky Rubio - $14,250,000 / $14,950,000
Gorgui Dieng - $14,112,360 / $15,170,787 / $16,229,213 / $17,287,640
Andrew Wiggins - $7,574,323 / $9,846,619 (QuO)
Cole Aldrich - $7,300,000 / $6,956,021 ($2m guar.)
Karl-Anthony Towns - $6,216,840 / $7,839,435 (TO) / $10,191,266 (QuO)
Jordan Hill - $4,180,000 (UnG)
Kris Dunn - $4,046,760 / $4,221,000 (TO) / $5,348,007 (TO) / $7,091,457 (QuO)
Nemanja Bjelica - $3,949,999 / $4,937,499 (QuO)
Zach LaVine - $3,202,218 / $4,428,667 (QuO)
Tyus Jones - $1,397,400 / $5,703,600 (TO) / $5,703,600 (QuO)

Salary Cap Holds and Exceptions
Shabazz Muhammad - $7,615,748 (RFA, Bird)
Brandon Rush - $4,200,000 (UFA, non-Bird)
Adreian Payne - $3,100,094 (UFA, limited Bird)
Omri Casspi - $1,471,382 (UFA, non-Bird)
Kevin Martin - $1,380,305 / $1,380,305 (stretched)
Roster Hold - $562,493
Roster Hold - $562,493

Total Salaries: $66,229,900 (10 contracts)
Total Exceptions/Holds: $18,892,515
2017-18 Cap Number: $85,122,415

Total Cap Space: $16,877,585
Luxury Tax Space: $36,877,585

Note: Hill's contract would become guaranteed if he's still on the roster 10 days from now.

Wow! I'm surprised by the great deal we have Bjelica on. In thought he was making 8 a year.

I believe he's on his rookie contract still which is why it's so little.


He stayed overseas long enough that he didn't sign on the rookie scale. His current contract was what Flip negotiated, I was surprised at the time at how little he got.
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#145 » by PharmD » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:39 am

I think the Tyus Jones team option and qualifying offer numbers are wrong. Hoopshype has them as 2,444,052 and 3,573,204
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#146 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:47 am

PharmD wrote:I think the Tyus Jones team option and qualifying offer numbers are wrong. Hoopshype has them as 2,444,052 and 3,573,204

They are. Not sure what happened there.
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#147 » by PharmD » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:38 am

So the trade cost us like $10M in cap space, maybe a little less.
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#148 » by Krapinsky » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:36 am

Which resourceful poster is going to update the chart for us?
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#149 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:46 am

Krapinsky wrote:Which resourceful poster is going to update the chart for us?

Coming, master....
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#150 » by cpfsf » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:57 am

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Coming, master....

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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#151 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:07 am

Before you freak out, remember this is with all cap holds on the books.

Spoiler:
Current Salaries
Jimmy Butler - $18,696,918 / $19,841,624 / $19,841,627 (PO)
Ricky Rubio - $14,250,000 / $14,950,000
Gorgui Dieng - $14,112,360 / $15,170,787 / $16,229,213 / $17,287,640
Andrew Wiggins - $7,574,323 / $9,846,619 (QuO)
Cole Aldrich - $7,300,000 / $6,956,021 ($2m guar.)
Karl-Anthony Towns - $6,216,840 / $7,839,435 (TO) / $10,191,266 (QuO)
Jordan Hill - $4,180,000 (UnG)
Nemanja Bjelica - $3,949,999 / $4,937,499 (QuO)
Tyus Jones - $1,471,382 / $2,444,053 (TO) / $3,573,205 (QuO)

Salary Cap Holds and Exceptions
Shabazz Muhammad - $7,615,748 (RFA, Bird)
Brandon Rush - $4,200,000 (UFA, non-Bird)
Adreian Payne - $3,100,094 (UFA, limited Bird)
Omri Casspi - $1,471,382 (UFA, non-Bird)
Kevin Martin - $1,360,305 / $1,360,304 (stretched)
Justin Patton - $2,247,480 / 2,667,600 / 3,117,240 (TO) / $4,781,846 (TO) / $6,718,494 (QuO)

Total Salaries: $77,751,822 (9 contracts)
Total Exceptions/Holds: $19,995,009
2017-18 Cap Number: $97,746,831

Total Cap Space: $1,253,169
Luxury Tax Space: $21,253,169
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#152 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:07 am

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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#153 » by PharmD » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:08 am

So, assuming we bring back none of the free agents and release Hill we're at $76M by my count. And that's only for 9 guys. We need a sucker to take Cole.
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#154 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:11 am

PharmD wrote:So, assuming we bring back none of the free agents and release Hill we're at $76M by my count. And that's only for 9 guys.

Right around there, yeah
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Wolves Cap Situation with Ricky out/Teague In 

Post#155 » by Jammer » Sat Jul 1, 2017 1:15 am

The "Cap Situation" with Rubio going to Utah for OKC's Lottery Protected First Round Pick (if not delivered by 2020, then becomes OKC's 2020 and 2021 2nd Round Picks)

$33,504,327 Cap Space if renounce rights to Shabazz Muhammad
$25,888,579 cap space if make one year $4,187,599 qualifying offer to Shabazz Muhammad (gives right to match any offer).
Trade Cole Aldrich and increase both of the above cap room numbers by $7,300,000


In practical terms, the Wolves make the Qualifying Offer to Shabazz Muhammad,
negotiate with free agents, and if they have the guys (Teague + Wing) they want willing to sign,
they Withdraw the Qualifying Offer to Muhammad and use the extra cap space to sign someone in addition to Teague.

If Teague ends up with $57 million over 3 years that is like 19M of their cap space, they still have $14.5 million for another Top Free Agent plus the Room MLE of $4.328 Million

If the Wolves can't get the Wing they want they can always re-sign Shabazz Muhammad and still have about $6,888,579 of Cap Space plus the Room MLE

The Depth Chart Looks something like:
Center: Towns, Aldrich, Patton (Patton may make Aldrich expendable)
PF: Dieng, Bjelica
SF: Butler, Muhammad or Top Free Agent, Minimum Contract
SG: Wiggins, Room MLE
PG: Teague, Jones, Minimum Contract

That's 13 guys. Leaves room for G League call-ups or buyout candidates around the end of February to join team.
Butler is 6' 6" but more powerfully built than Wiggins so Butler may be more suited for SF while Wiggins may be more suited for SG.

For reference purposes, here are the Pre-Draft Measurements of the Wolves Players WITHOUT SHOES

6' 10.25" Karl Anthony Towns
6' 10" Justin Patton
No Official Measurement for Nemanja Bjelica, but seems about 6' 10"
6' 9.75" Gorgui Dieng
6' 9" Cole Aldrich
No Official Measurement for Andrew Wiggins but seems about 6' 7"
6' 6" Jimmy Butler
6' 4.75" Shabazz Muhammad (Restricted Free Agent)
6' 0.25" Jeff Teague
6' 0.25 Tyus Jones
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Re: Wolves Cap Situation with Ricky out/Teague In 

Post#156 » by Merc_Porto » Sat Jul 1, 2017 1:17 am

Cole ALDRICH *
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Re: Wolves Cap Situation with Ricky out/Teague In 

Post#157 » by Jammer » Sat Jul 1, 2017 1:40 am

mercgold3 wrote:Cole ALDRICH *


I spelled it right one out of the 4 times I listed him above but now it's right 4 times.
Thanks.
Geez, I hate to think I was spelling his name wrong 75% of the time. Yikes.
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Re: Wolves Cap Situation with Ricky out/Teague In 

Post#158 » by C.lupus » Sat Jul 1, 2017 1:44 am

Jammer wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Cole ALDRICH *


I spelled it right one out of the 3 times I listed him above but now it's right 3 times.
Thanks.
Geez, I hate to think I was spelling his name wrong 67% of the time. Yikes.

You get a lump of Cole in your stocking.
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Re: RE: Re: Wolves Cap Situation with Ricky out/Teague In 

Post#159 » by Merc_Porto » Sat Jul 1, 2017 1:44 am

Jammer wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Cole ALDRICH *


I spelled it right one out of the 3 times I listed him above but now it's right 3 times.
Thanks.
Geez, I hate to think I was spelling his name wrong 67% of the time. Yikes.

lol it's just confusing because of the real Aldridge in San Antonio.
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart 

Post#160 » by Klomp » Sat Jul 1, 2017 6:15 am

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