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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 2:32 am
by Jedzz
I haven't been watching Iowa closely lately. Anyone there doing anything now?
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:51 am
by Klomp
Jedzz wrote:I haven't been watching Iowa closely lately. Anyone there doing anything now?
Well, Jacob Evans is shooting 16.7% from the field in an Iowa uniform and 8.3% from 3-point range. Oh, you mean anything positive.....?
Jarred Vanderbilt and Omari Spellman have been the main guys of note. Vanderbilt moreso than Spellman for me due to consistency and future positional need for Minnesota.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:15 am
by Jedzz
Klomp wrote:Jedzz wrote:I haven't been watching Iowa closely lately. Anyone there doing anything now?
Well, Jacob Evans is shooting 16.7% from the field in an Iowa uniform and 8.3% from 3-point range. Oh, you mean anything positive.....?
Jarred Vanderbilt and Omari Spellman have been the main guys of note. Vanderbilt moreso than Spellman for me due to consistency and future positional need for Minnesota.
Webb and Robinson looked smooth in that clip. If Evans is consistently shooting that bad, you gotta think he just wants out?
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Thu Mar 5, 2020 7:33 pm
by minimus
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Thu Mar 5, 2020 10:39 pm
by Klomp
Spellman got a DNP-CD in Iowa.....not great for his future here.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Thu Mar 5, 2020 11:36 pm
by winforlose
Klomp wrote:Spellman got a DNP-CD in Iowa.....not great for his future here.
Maybe he is sick or had something personal going on. Otherwise something is very wrong here.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Fri Mar 6, 2020 2:14 am
by Klomp
winforlose wrote:Klomp wrote:Spellman got a DNP-CD in Iowa.....not great for his future here.
Maybe he is sick or had something personal going on. Otherwise something is very wrong here.
It's something personal I think, but probably not in a traditional way you might expect. Read this article from The Athletic written this past December about his journey if you get a chance, it's quite illuminating:
https://theathletic.com/1422941/2019/12/02/warriors-omari-spellman-back-in-atlanta-doesnt-blame-the-hawks-for-his-destructive-rookie-season/I didn’t know what was going to happen. But I knew for a fact that, at some point, the relationship had gotten so toxic in Atlanta — organizational to player. They had tried a lot of stuff, they really did and I could never say they didn’t. They tried a lot of stuff to help me and I was just not in a place to accept that help yet. I could tell they were frustrated. I won’t say I knew I was going to get traded, but I knew something was going to happen. Either this year I was going to start in the G League or this season, I don’t touch the court. Or I knew I wasn’t going to be in Atlanta anymore.
What was the low point, the turning point, where that mindset flipped?
I got traded here (to the Warriors) and Bob Myers brought me into a meeting. He literally told me: “Yo, bro, you have to be under 280 (pounds) or you’re not going to play.” And, like … I was like, man, this is how far you fell. That’s how far you’ve fallen. Like, 280 is the caveat. You have to be 280. Bro, that’s heavy as ****.
You want to be 260, right?
Not even. Like right now, I was staying at 260 because I was playing the (center). Now that they’ve seen I can shoot, I’m playing the (power forward) more. Those guys are faster. Obviously, I want to add muscle. I may lose weight and turn that into muscle. But it’s like …
So 280 to you used to be way above normal for you?
In college, if I wasn’t 245, I didn’t play. I didn’t start. And now, you’re so heavy, they’re telling you, in the NBA, 280 or we can’t do anything. So that was just tough. After that, I had a conversation with my agent and my mom. I took a picture. Like, I had a picture in the mirror that I’d look at of myself. I don’t know if I can find it. I was just super nasty fat. And it was just, nah, bro, it can’t be me. So I just started grinding. It was not easy. But I eventually got to where I am. And I’m still trying to figure it out every day.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Fri Mar 6, 2020 2:31 am
by winforlose
Klomp wrote:winforlose wrote:Klomp wrote:Spellman got a DNP-CD in Iowa.....not great for his future here.
Maybe he is sick or had something personal going on. Otherwise something is very wrong here.
It's something personal I think, but probably not in a traditional way you might expect. Read this article from The Athletic written this past December about his journey if you get a chance, it's quite illuminating:
https://theathletic.com/1422941/2019/12/02/warriors-omari-spellman-back-in-atlanta-doesnt-blame-the-hawks-for-his-destructive-rookie-season/I didn’t know what was going to happen. But I knew for a fact that, at some point, the relationship had gotten so toxic in Atlanta — organizational to player. They had tried a lot of stuff, they really did and I could never say they didn’t. They tried a lot of stuff to help me and I was just not in a place to accept that help yet. I could tell they were frustrated. I won’t say I knew I was going to get traded, but I knew something was going to happen. Either this year I was going to start in the G League or this season, I don’t touch the court. Or I knew I wasn’t going to be in Atlanta anymore.
What was the low point, the turning point, where that mindset flipped?
I got traded here (to the Warriors) and Bob Myers brought me into a meeting. He literally told me: “Yo, bro, you have to be under 280 (pounds) or you’re not going to play.” And, like … I was like, man, this is how far you fell. That’s how far you’ve fallen. Like, 280 is the caveat. You have to be 280. Bro, that’s heavy as ****.
You want to be 260, right?
Not even. Like right now, I was staying at 260 because I was playing the (center). Now that they’ve seen I can shoot, I’m playing the (power forward) more. Those guys are faster. Obviously, I want to add muscle. I may lose weight and turn that into muscle. But it’s like …
So 280 to you used to be way above normal for you?
In college, if I wasn’t 245, I didn’t play. I didn’t start. And now, you’re so heavy, they’re telling you, in the NBA, 280 or we can’t do anything. So that was just tough. After that, I had a conversation with my agent and my mom. I took a picture. Like, I had a picture in the mirror that I’d look at of myself. I don’t know if I can find it. I was just super nasty fat. And it was just, nah, bro, it can’t be me. So I just started grinding. It was not easy. But I eventually got to where I am. And I’m still trying to figure it out every day.
I cannot remember where I had this conversation (could be here, Canis, or Rubechat,) but I do see his point. On the one hand I agree he hasn’t earned the right to have an attitude in public or to cause a problem for his team. But, he got traded to a team that is committed to small ball. We already had both KAT and Naz, which meant he is essentially locked out of the center position for the next two seasons at least. If we hadn’t traded for JH he would have had a good opportunity, but with JH the only available spot for him Is backup PF. Between Layman and JJ he is really isn’t even rotation adjacent. From there the situation gets even worse when you consider we straight traded KBD for Vanderbilt. KBD was something of a fan favorite this season. This puts Rosas in a tight spot if we don’t use Vanderbilt at some point. In other words, he goes from playing time in GSW to G league with no future here. That would frustrate anyone. Hopefully we trade him for value next season and make everyone happy.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Fri Mar 6, 2020 2:31 am
by mandurugo
In what sense was he boxed out by two guys? Terrible take.
That said, hopefully he becomes a great player for the wolves...
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Sat Mar 7, 2020 2:11 pm
by KGdaBom
Vanderbilt with a triple double?
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Sat Mar 7, 2020 4:47 pm
by jpatrick
KGdaBom wrote:Vanderbilt with a triple double?
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12pts, 18 rebs, 11 asts. Interesting. I think he’s going to have to hit the three more frequently to get run here, but he’s an interesting prospect.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Sun Mar 8, 2020 2:37 am
by mandurugo
jpatrick wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Vanderbilt with a triple double?
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12pts, 18 rebs, 11 asts. Interesting. I think he’s going to have to hit the three more frequently to get run here, but he’s an interesting prospect.
One of his biggest issue appears to be his fragility. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:25 pm
by Klomp
Possible two-way next season?
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:10 am
by old school 34
What about a guy like Jay Scrubb being our next udfa...wing version of Naz? Saw something like he'd be first Juco guy to potentially get drafted in last 15 yrs? Lefty...6' 6"...40" vert all reportedly? Shot the 3...granted @ that level but @ like 46% clip....seems like a Rosas kind of diamond in the rough type?
FWIW, supposedly has some type of relationship with DLo as well...both Louisville guys?
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:56 am
by Klomp
old school 34 wrote:What about a guy like Jay Scrubb being our next udfa...wing version of Naz? Saw something like he'd be first Juco guy to potentially get drafted in last 15 yrs? Lefty...6' 6"...40" vert all reportedly? Shot the 3...granted @ that level but @ like 46% clip....seems like a Rosas kind of diamond in the rough type?
FWIW, supposedly has some type of relationship with DLo as well...both Louisville guys?
Not sure he'll go undrafted
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 pm
by old school 34
Klomp wrote:old school 34 wrote:What about a guy like Jay Scrubb being our next udfa...wing version of Naz? Saw something like he'd be first Juco guy to potentially get drafted in last 15 yrs? Lefty...6' 6"...40" vert all reportedly? Shot the 3...granted @ that level but @ like 46% clip....seems like a Rosas kind of diamond in the rough type?
FWIW, supposedly has some type of relationship with DLo as well...both Louisville guys?
Not sure he'll go undrafted
Naz wasn't either? But I get what your saying.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:26 am
by Mamba4Goat
old school 34 wrote:What about a guy like Jay Scrubb being our next udfa...wing version of Naz? Saw something like he'd be first Juco guy to potentially get drafted in last 15 yrs? Lefty...6' 6"...40" vert all reportedly? Shot the 3...granted @ that level but @ like 46% clip....seems like a Rosas kind of diamond in the rough type?
FWIW, supposedly has some type of relationship with DLo as well...both Louisville guys?
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Scrubb probably goes higher in the 2nd than most people think. FWIW Darren Wolfson reported Minnesota met with Scrubb the other week.
Also Scrubb isn’t really a Louisville guy.
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:23 am
by Klomp
Mamba4Goat wrote:Also Scrubb isn’t really a Louisville guy.
Scrubb grew up on the west end of Louisville, Kentucky.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Scrubb
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:46 am
by Mamba4Goat
Ohhhh. I thought he meant since he committed to Louisville. That makes a lot more sense. Oops!
Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:32 pm
by Klomp
This could be a potentially significant development this offseason, if they pick right. Essentially they could have next year's two-way players in camp working on the system already. At the very least, Iowa can get a free look at guys. Last year's affiliate players were Canyon Barry, Barry Brown, Lindell Wigginton and Jordan Murphy.