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Post#1941 » by Biggsohnasty » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:30 pm

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Post#1942 » by TheProdigy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:32 pm

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Do the 'dumb' thing Orlando. Leave him for us please.

Another point guard? Is that you, David Kahn?
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Post#1943 » by Calinks » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:35 pm

Just now hearing about this Collins dude but looking at him.
7 footer
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Um... sign me up. Might be the Eddie Griffin that actually works out! He's shot my want list. Right after Issac.
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Post#1944 » by Neeva » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:38 pm

Calinks wrote:Just now hearing about this Collins dude but looking at him.
7 footer
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blocks
can shoot

Um... sign me up. Might be the Eddie Griffin that actually works out! He's shot my want list. Right after Issac.


But he's white and american and they always are busts!
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Post#1945 » by Neeva » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:42 pm

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Do the 'dumb' thing Orlando. Leave him for us please.

Another point guard? Is that you, David Kahn?

Would be foolish to pass on a future star just because we have dunn and tyus on the bench lol
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Post#1946 » by TheProdigy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:51 pm

Neeva wrote:
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Do the 'dumb' thing Orlando. Leave him for us please.

Another point guard? Is that you, David Kahn?

Would be foolish to pass on a future star just because we have dunn and tyus on the bench lol

It would be foolish to draft a pg when we already have 3 pg's on the roster that deserve minutes. If we make some trades before the draft to clear up minutes at pg, then yes I agree draft Smith. Otherwise we'd only create a logjam and negotiate future trades from a position of weakness.
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Post#1947 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:55 pm

Neeva wrote:
Calinks wrote:Just now hearing about this Collins dude but looking at him.
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blocks
can shoot

Um... sign me up. Might be the Eddie Griffin that actually works out! He's shot my want list. Right after Issac.

But he's white and american and they always are busts!

Yup, like I said on the draft board, I think his biggest weakness is the ability to get beyond the stigma of being a stereotypical white American big
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1948 » by Biggsohnasty » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:11 am

DaKidKG wrote:
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DaKidKG wrote:Another point guard? Is that you, David Kahn?

Would be foolish to pass on a future star just because we have dunn and tyus on the bench lol

It would be foolish to draft a pg when we already have 3 pg's on the roster that deserve minutes. If we make some trades before the draft to clear up minutes at pg, then yes I agree draft Smith. Otherwise we'd only create a logjam and negotiate future trades from a position of weakness.


Which 3 PGs deserve minutes?

Dunn can have a role on the team but he showed me nothing in his rookie year that makes me think he's the point guard I'm hitching my wagon to expecting deep postseason runs. Think his role is ultimately defensive rotation combo guard. That kind of player can coexist with Smith.

Jones is a nice 3rd PG who can fill in in a pinch but the more he plays, the more his weaknesses get exposed. Not letting his presence on the team prevent me from taking a swing at a potential star.

Smith could be a star.

You don't stop drafting PGs because you've tried and haven't found a good one yet.
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Post#1949 » by theGreatRC » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:13 am

Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Calinks wrote:Just now hearing about this Collins dude but looking at him.
7 footer
athletic
agile
rebounder
blocks
can shoot

Um... sign me up. Might be the Eddie Griffin that actually works out! He's shot my want list. Right after Issac.

But he's white and american and they always are busts!

Yup, like I said on the draft board, I think his biggest weakness is the ability to get beyond the stigma of being a stereotypical white American big


Same thing Cody Zeller is going through. Dude is low key a beast, but he's white & goofy looking.

Then again, you have Meyers Leonard who's probably the worst center in the L
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Post#1950 » by Biggsohnasty » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:16 am

Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Calinks wrote:Just now hearing about this Collins dude but looking at him.
7 footer
athletic
agile
rebounder
blocks
can shoot

Um... sign me up. Might be the Eddie Griffin that actually works out! He's shot my want list. Right after Issac.

But he's white and american and they always are busts!

Yup, like I said on the draft board, I think his biggest weakness is the ability to get beyond the stigma of being a stereotypical white American big


Is he really all that athletic/agile? Not compared to other 7 foot people but NBA centers?

I see Patrick O'Bryant in him.

Also ^ Cody Zeller isn't a "low key beast" - he's a nice backup big. Averaged 10 points and 6.5 rebounds in 27 minutes. He was the No. 4 pick in the draft. I guess I'd want more than that if I'm drafting a guy this high.
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Post#1951 » by Sugarless » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:25 am

Biggsohnasty wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:But he's white and american and they always are busts!

Yup, like I said on the draft board, I think his biggest weakness is the ability to get beyond the stigma of being a stereotypical white American big


Is he really all that athletic/agile? Not compared to other 7 foot people but NBA centers?

I see Patrick O'Bryant in him.

Also ^ Cody Zeller isn't a "low key beast" - he's a nice backup big. Averaged 10 points and 6.5 rebounds in 27 minutes. He was the No. 4 pick in the draft. I guess I'd want more than that if I'm drafting a guy this high.


He's not that athletic, no. He's mobile and has a quick-ish jump off two feet, but I think people are overestimating his overall athleticism without really accounting for the competition he's played against, plus the fact that it was exacerbated by often sharing the court with Karnowski.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1952 » by TheProdigy » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:34 am

Biggsohnasty wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:
Neeva wrote:Would be foolish to pass on a future star just because we have dunn and tyus on the bench lol

It would be foolish to draft a pg when we already have 3 pg's on the roster that deserve minutes. If we make some trades before the draft to clear up minutes at pg, then yes I agree draft Smith. Otherwise we'd only create a logjam and negotiate future trades from a position of weakness.


Which 3 PGs deserve minutes?

Dunn can have a role on the team but he showed me nothing in his rookie year that makes me think he's the point guard I'm hitching my wagon to expecting deep postseason runs. Think his role is ultimately defensive rotation combo guard. That kind of player can coexist with Smith.

Jones is a nice 3rd PG who can fill in in a pinch but the more he plays, the more his weaknesses get exposed. Not letting his presence on the team prevent me from taking a swing at a potential star.

Smith could be a star.

You don't stop drafting PGs because you've tried and haven't found a good one yet.

What about Rubio? How does he coexist with Smith? Rubio is a lock to get at least 30 minutes at pg. Then Wiggins and LaVine will take up almost all of the minutes at sg. That leaves Dunn and Jones with zero minutes.

Are you ready to throw in the towel on Dunn, a 2nd year player because he looked bad in his rookie year? You need to give these young guys a chance to develop.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1953 » by theGreatRC » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:38 am

Apparently Markkenan grew up a Wolves fan.

Sounds like he just wants to be taken high lol.
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Post#1954 » by Baseline81 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:12 am

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1955 » by wildvikeswolves » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:14 am

I wonder when/if there will ever be a Rubio rumor that seems at least a little believable
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Post#1956 » by theGreatRC » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:27 am

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So if this deal went through, Mavs get both of the best assets. Niiiiiice.
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Post#1957 » by karch34 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:32 am

wildvikeswolves wrote:I wonder when/if there will ever be a Rubio rumor that seems at least a little believable


Or any involving us that seem like we're not idiots. I'd love to see "Wolves-Magic involved in 6 & Gordon for 7 & Payne talks".
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Post#1958 » by Baseline81 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:34 am

theGreatRC wrote:So if this deal went through, Mavs get both of the best assets. Niiiiiice.

If this deal went through, Thibs would have a lot of explaining to do.

As far as I'm concerned, Rubio is a greater asset than Matthews. Likewise the no. 7 pick to no. 9.
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Post#1959 » by LeJohn Harden » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:47 am

lol at drafting another pg
we need a defensive big that can stretch the floor out to the 3 point line
and more wing depth
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1960 » by Biggsohnasty » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:58 am

DaKidKG wrote:
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DaKidKG wrote:It would be foolish to draft a pg when we already have 3 pg's on the roster that deserve minutes. If we make some trades before the draft to clear up minutes at pg, then yes I agree draft Smith. Otherwise we'd only create a logjam and negotiate future trades from a position of weakness.


Which 3 PGs deserve minutes?

Dunn can have a role on the team but he showed me nothing in his rookie year that makes me think he's the point guard I'm hitching my wagon to expecting deep postseason runs. Think his role is ultimately defensive rotation combo guard. That kind of player can coexist with Smith.

Jones is a nice 3rd PG who can fill in in a pinch but the more he plays, the more his weaknesses get exposed. Not letting his presence on the team prevent me from taking a swing at a potential star.

Smith could be a star.

You don't stop drafting PGs because you've tried and haven't found a good one yet.

What about Rubio? How does he coexist with Smith? Rubio is a lock to get at least 30 minutes at pg. Then Wiggins and LaVine will take up almost all of the minutes at sg. That leaves Dunn and Jones with zero minutes.

Are you ready to throw in the towel on Dunn, a 2nd year player because he looked bad in his rookie year? You need to give these young guys a chance to develop.


Not giving up on Dunn - said he can have a role as a combo guard who's value stems from his defensive ability. I think he can coexist with Smith.

Rubio is here now and I think he's a fine bridge guard for when Smith is ready to take the reigns. You are looking at drafting a PG through the scope of the 2017-18 season. Look further.

In three years when Wiggins is 25 and Towns is 24 and the Warriors are coming down from what appears to be a long-lasting dominant stretch, Smith would be all of 22 years old. That's a potential Big 3 without even accounting for Lavine or whoever else the team might add.

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