The Jimmy G Buckets thread

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

jimmy is awesome. do whatever it takes to keep him

[Klomp]

An extension doesn't have to be for the max, does it? I mean dollars, not years....

Are you listening to the same podcast as me, Danny LaRouix?

No, it doesn't have to be for the max, but I think since Jimmy missed out on the big jump in the price max deals, and his rookie scale was cheap too, that he will demand the max simply as a sign of respect. I think we should pay it too. Maybe he'd accept a team option on the last year, but I bet he gets full max unless the surgery goes awfully well.

I honestly don't care about the team option. Give him the full years guaranteed, if he'll take even a slight discounted price.

[AirP.]

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[minimus]

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This better not be removal surgery. Jimmy don't rush ****! Take every precaution!

Yes, agree. No need to rush. I dont know developed medical procedure now, but Wade said many times that he should not have cleaned his meniscus in the beginning of his career.

[AI_Efficiency]

Sixers fan here. My understanding of Embiid’s injury last year was that he had surgery to repair his meniscus. He looks basically like the same guy this year, so this doesn’t look like an injury that should have any long term effect.

[Mech Engineer]

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This better not be removal surgery. Jimmy don't rush ****! Take every precaution!

Yes, agree. No need to rush. I dont know developed medical procedure now, but Wade said many times that he should not have cleaned his meniscus in the beginning of his career.

From what I remember about Rose and his meniscus...he had it torn 2 times. They repaired it once and snipped the other time. I think the repair was not successful or if it is torn at the wrong place, they just cannot repair it. That's what they told after Derrick's meniscus surgery.

You are right about Wade's comments and maybe it could have been repaired but it was a long time ago. The bad part about Wade is that it came back to bite him at crucial times in playoffs and he was lucky LeBron was carrying the team.

There is a point when the meniscus tear snipped guys have to take off games and that seems to be an unknown in terms of who and how. I think even CP3 also had this problem.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

it was quicker to drive down to Rochester, have a successful surgery & send a press release...than it was to tell us the news about the severity of the injury

[Klomp]

it was quicker to drive down to Rochester, have a successful surgery & send a press release...than it was to tell us the news about the severity of the injury

Did you miss the part about the team not getting back to town until after noon yesterday? Did you think they have MRI capabilities on the team plane?

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

it was quicker to drive down to Rochester, have a successful surgery & send a press release...than it was to tell us the news about the severity of the injury

Did you miss the part about the team not getting back to town until after noon yesterday? Did you think they have MRI capabilities on the team plane?

Jon K knew the results before the news of the plane came out soo...

[chrispatrick]

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This better not be removal surgery. Jimmy don't rush ****! Take every precaution!

It would definitely be a removal. Repair has a significantly longer recovery time.

That being said, we have no way of knowing how much was removed (could be minor) or if repair was an option (it more often isn't and generally only works in the areas that get better blood flow).

[chrispatrick]

Sixers fan here. My understanding of Embiid’s injury last year was that he had surgery to repair his meniscus. He looks basically like the same guy this year, so this doesn’t look like an injury that should have any long term effect.

The range of possible outcomes is much wider because a meniscus removal/trim could be small, large, or in one location vs. another.

Like Embiid, most people will come back looking like the same guy, but lose too much and some people can have problems.

[Klomp]

it was quicker to drive down to Rochester, have a successful surgery & send a press release...than it was to tell us the news about the severity of the injury

Did you miss the part about the team not getting back to town until after noon yesterday? Did you think they have MRI capabilities on the team plane?

Jon K knew the results before the news of the plane came out soo...

LOL....

[Murphs56]

Thibs doesn't give anything away when it comes to injuries. He keeps the injury itself extremely vague (Meniscal injury) and always uses out indefinitely instead of some sort of timetable.

[walk with me]

Jimmy didn’t have an option between removal/repair..... Lots of guys have had decent careers with removals. Blake, cp3, wade. Probably many others from previous eras as well.

[AirP.]

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[Calinks]

So he didn't get a removal he had some other kind of surgery?

[Klomp]

So he didn't get a removal he had some other kind of surgery?

According to Jonny Athletic....

In the immediate aftermath of the injury announcement, it appeared that Butler would be faced with a similar dilemma as former Wolves forward Chase Budinger and former Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, two of countless athletes who have dealt with meniscus injuries.

Both Budinger and Peterson were given a choice. First, repair the meniscus for the best chance to come back from the injury and not face some debilitating issues down the road, but spend three to six months in rehab before being able to return to play.

Or they could choose to have the meniscus removed, a procedure that increases the chances for arthritis and other long-term issues with the knee, but also has a much shorter recovery period that generally lasts about six weeks.

Budinger and Peterson each chose to repair their injuries with an eye toward the future.

But Butler’s procedure was neither a major repair nor a removal, and the hope is he will be able to return to action without facing some of the long-term risks involved with removing it. Exactly how he will respond to the surgery, both in the short and long term, remains to be seen. Different athletes react to any medical procedure in their own unique ways, which is why the Timberwolves have been cautious in the information they release about it.

https://theathletic.com/253735/2018/02/25/jimmy-butler-has-knee-surgery-hopes-to-return-to-timberwolves-this-season/

[life_saver]

I think even with Jimmy out, our offense is going to be fine...it's the defense which is gonna suffer when we are without Jimmy

[Calinks]

So he didn't get a removal he had some other kind of surgery?

According to Jonny Athletic....

In the immediate aftermath of the injury announcement, it appeared that Butler would be faced with a similar dilemma as former Wolves forward Chase Budinger and former Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, two of countless athletes who have dealt with meniscus injuries.

Both Budinger and Peterson were given a choice. First, repair the meniscus for the best chance to come back from the injury and not face some debilitating issues down the road, but spend three to six months in rehab before being able to return to play.

Or they could choose to have the meniscus removed, a procedure that increases the chances for arthritis and other long-term issues with the knee, but also has a much shorter recovery period that generally lasts about six weeks.

Budinger and Peterson each chose to repair their injuries with an eye toward the future.

But Butler’s procedure was neither a major repair nor a removal, and the hope is he will be able to return to action without facing some of the long-term risks involved with removing it. Exactly how he will respond to the surgery, both in the short and long term, remains to be seen. Different athletes react to any medical procedure in their own unique ways, which is why the Timberwolves have been cautious in the information they release about it.

https://theathletic.com/253735/2018/02/25/jimmy-butler-has-knee-surgery-hopes-to-return-to-timberwolves-this-season/

Hmm. Well I really hope he does what's best for himself. Whatever the case, take as much time as needed. If we make the playoffs and get smoked without Butler I am fine with that if his long term outlook is better. I really don't think we will do much in the playoffs even with him but a first round win is possible with Jimmy and that in itself would be huge for us.

[Basti]

So he didn't get a removal he had some other kind of surgery?

According to Jonny Athletic....

In the immediate aftermath of the injury announcement, it appeared that Butler would be faced with a similar dilemma as former Wolves forward Chase Budinger and former Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, two of countless athletes who have dealt with meniscus injuries.

Both Budinger and Peterson were given a choice. First, repair the meniscus for the best chance to come back from the injury and not face some debilitating issues down the road, but spend three to six months in rehab before being able to return to play.

Or they could choose to have the meniscus removed, a procedure that increases the chances for arthritis and other long-term issues with the knee, but also has a much shorter recovery period that generally lasts about six weeks.

Budinger and Peterson each chose to repair their injuries with an eye toward the future.

But Butler’s procedure was neither a major repair nor a removal, and the hope is he will be able to return to action without facing some of the long-term risks involved with removing it. Exactly how he will respond to the surgery, both in the short and long term, remains to be seen. Different athletes react to any medical procedure in their own unique ways, which is why the Timberwolves have been cautious in the information they release about it.

https://theathletic.com/253735/2018/02/25/jimmy-butler-has-knee-surgery-hopes-to-return-to-timberwolves-this-season/

Hmm. Well I really hope he does what's best for himself. Whatever the case, take as much time as needed. If we make the playoffs and get smoked without Butler I am fine with that if his long term outlook is better. I really don't think we will do much in the playoffs even with him but a first round win is possible with Jimmy and that in itself would be huge for us.

I think we need to be realistic. Getting to the playoffs is the realistic, yet somewhat optimistic goal for now. And because it's highly likely we won't be having homecourt advantage, a 1st round win seems far fetched. Even if Jimmy rushes his return. Which I am completely against, by the way. There's very little to gain from it this season.