The Taj Gibson Thread

prefuse73 · Post #261 » by **prefuse73** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 5:47 am

We needed a starting quality (meaning started last year), PF who is a strong defender next to Towns. On defense Dieng is too slow to be a PF and too weak to be a Center. Name a PF who checks those boxes at a minimum and would have come cheaper than 14m per year for 2 years?

Taj may not be 2x the player patterson is, but considering the Thibs connection and Taj's ability to teach our bigs the system, that carries some significant value.

You can also go the other way, is Milsap over 2x the palyer Taj is (33M per year). He is older, not much of a shooter (30% from 3), and obviously on the decline.

shrink · Post #262 » by **shrink** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:26 am

D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:Lol how do you let your driver's license get suspended

This team doesn't need such hooligans. Dump him.

Post #263 » by **coldfish** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 12:38 pm

PharmD wrote:Both sides talking past each other itt. Taj is both a useful player AND an absolutely horrific allocation of cap space.

Sorry to pipe in as a non wolves fan.

Its pretty obvious what Thibs' plan is. Make the playoffs, see how the young wolves respond and get them experience. Then in two years, figure out who is worth keeping and who isn't. When GS starts to decline, be in a position to contend.

IMHO, Thibs had to pay a premium for Taj to get him to sign a 2 year deal in order to fit into the long term plan. I really don't think Thibs' plan is to put the absolute best team on the floor this season at the expense of the future. If anything, it seems that he is trying to set the team up for later while trying to make the playoffs now.

Screwy28 · Post #264 » by **Screwy28** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:45 pm

coldfish wrote:
PharmD wrote:Both sides talking past each other itt. Taj is both a useful player AND an absolutely horrific allocation of cap space.

Sorry to pipe in as a non wolves fan.

Its pretty obvious what Thibs' plan is. Make the playoffs, see how the young wolves respond and get them experience. Then in two years, figure out who is worth keeping and who isn't. When GS starts to decline, be in a position to contend.

IMHO, Thibs had to pay a premium for Taj to get him to sign a 2 year deal in order to fit into the long term plan. I really don't think Thibs' plan is to put the absolute best team on the floor this season at the expense of the future. If anything, it seems that he is trying to set the team up for later while trying to make the playoffs now.

Then u don't know Thibs very well. If he wanted to just make the playoffs then he would've kept lavine and then solidified our bench. Our starting unit was actually pretty solid last year but our bench was atrocious. Thibs is super competitive and he's thinking about right now but yes I agree he has the future in mind as well signing these players to 2 yr deals which is nice to see

AirP. · Post #265 » by **AirP.** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 3:00 pm

Screwy28 wrote:
coldfish wrote:
PharmD wrote:Both sides talking past each other itt. Taj is both a useful player AND an absolutely horrific allocation of cap space.

Sorry to pipe in as a non wolves fan.

Its pretty obvious what Thibs' plan is. Make the playoffs, see how the young wolves respond and get them experience. Then in two years, figure out who is worth keeping and who isn't. When GS starts to decline, be in a position to contend.

IMHO, Thibs had to pay a premium for Taj to get him to sign a 2 year deal in order to fit into the long term plan. I really don't think Thibs' plan is to put the absolute best team on the floor this season at the expense of the future. If anything, it seems that he is trying to set the team up for later while trying to make the playoffs now.

Then u don't know Thibs very well. If he wanted to just make the playoffs then he would've kept lavine and then solidified our bench. Our starting unit was actually pretty solid last year but our bench was atrocious. Thibs is super competitive and he's thinking about right now but yes I agree he has the future in mind as well signing these players to 2 yr deals which is nice to see

You would be wrong, about Coldfish and Thibs. Super competitive Thibs just sat back a whole year to find out more about his young players(something others thought he couldn't do) and really made no hasty moves even though he could have. Thibs plans everything out and then works on his plans during the season(hence no jerking around players in the rotation, he's put the rotation together that way for a reason). Had Minnesota kept Wiggins and LaVine as it's starting wings they wouldn't have made the playoffs any time soon, their defense is that bad at this point in their career. People just get too caught up on offensive stats and forget about the other side of the game.

I'm still in awe someone said Coldfish doesn't know Thibs very well, most of us that have been on the Bulls message board for over a decade kinda have a feel for coach Thibs.

Post #266 » by **Worm Guts** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:26 pm

So apparently Gibson got arrested Thursday night for driving with a suspended license......

KGdaBom · Post #267 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:58 pm

Worm Guts wrote:So apparently Gibson got arrested Thursday night for driving with a suspended license......

Yeah. I hate seeing stuff like that. I seem to be able to not get arrested.

shrink · Post #268 » by **shrink** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 7:12 pm

Screwy28 wrote:
coldfish wrote:
PharmD wrote:Both sides talking past each other itt. Taj is both a useful player AND an absolutely horrific allocation of cap space.

Sorry to pipe in as a non wolves fan.

Its pretty obvious what Thibs' plan is. Make the playoffs, see how the young wolves respond and get them experience. Then in two years, figure out who is worth keeping and who isn't. When GS starts to decline, be in a position to contend.

IMHO, Thibs had to pay a premium for Taj to get him to sign a 2 year deal in order to fit into the long term plan. I really don't think Thibs' plan is to put the absolute best team on the floor this season at the expense of the future. If anything, it seems that he is trying to set the team up for later while trying to make the playoffs now.

Then u don't know Thibs very well. If he wanted to just make the playoffs then he would've kept lavine and then solidified our bench. Our starting unit was actually pretty solid last year but our bench was atrocious. Thibs is super competitive and he's thinking about right now but yes I agree he has the future in mind as well signing these players to 2 yr deals which is nice to see

Coldfish probably knows Thibs better than any of us, as the retired bulls moderator, and one of the most realistic voices in the Bulls forum for years.

PharmD · Post #269 » by **PharmD** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 7:22 pm

Ok, here's the plan. We renege on our offer because we can't have suspended drivers around our impressionable young kids then use our cap space to sign KCP.

Just think about how clearly superior for the roster that would be.

Post #270 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:17 am

Read on Twitter

KGdaBom · Post #271 » by **KGdaBom** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:00 am

Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

After finding out the reason I feel better about the incident.

walk with me · Post #272 » by **walk with me** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:52 pm

Who loves taj?

Neal25 · Post #273 » by **Neal25** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:14 pm

One of the best FA sign of this franchise ever. He deserves each buck that he earns. Glue-guy and that 3-point corner shoot is very useful.

packforfreedom · Post #274 » by **packforfreedom** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:51 pm

It's impossible not to love him, he does so many good things on the court, he's a real veteran presence, great all around defender, smart and seems like a very likable person.

Spoiler:

Post #275 » by **Klomp** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:33 pm

Read on Twitter

Apparently though, being a positive player is now a bad thing according to Wolves fans, since many here still think it was a mistake to sign him.....

Read on Twitter

MN7725 · Post #276 » by **MN7725** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:10 pm

Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

Apparently though, being a positive player is now a bad thing according to Wolves fans, since many here still think it was a mistake to sign him.....

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Taj has been irreplaceable !
31.8 MPG
10.6 PPG
8.1 RPG
1.5 APG
1.0 STL
0.4 BLK

Oh wait

Spoiler:

Narf · Post #277 » by **Narf** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:28 pm

AirP. wrote:I'm still in awe someone said Coldfish doesn't know Thibs very well....

So, haven't been on the internet long? /s

Zeitgeister · Post #278 » by **Zeitgeister** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:45 am

MN7725 wrote:
Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

Apparently though, being a positive player is now a bad thing according to Wolves fans, since many here still think it was a mistake to sign him.....

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Taj has been irreplaceable !
31.8 MPG
10.6 PPG
8.1 RPG
1.5 APG
1.0 STL
0.4 BLK

Oh wait

Spoiler:
2016-17 Dieng
32.4 MPG
10.0 PPG
7.9 RPG
1.9 APG
1.1 STL
1.2 BLK

2015-16 Dieng
27.1 MPG
10.1 PPG
7.1 RPG
1.7 APG
1.1 STL
1.2 BPG

Taj Gibson is a guy, and he has been for most of his career, a guy that has impact that goes beyond his box score. He's just a smart basketball player who plays on both sides of the ball.

andyhop · Post #279 » by **andyhop** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:01 am

Zeitgeister wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

Apparently though, being a positive player is now a bad thing according to Wolves fans, since many here still think it was a mistake to sign him.....

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Taj has been irreplaceable !
31.8 MPG
10.6 PPG
8.1 RPG
1.5 APG
1.0 STL
0.4 BLK

Oh wait

Spoiler:
2016-17 Dieng
32.4 MPG
10.0 PPG
7.9 RPG
1.9 APG
1.1 STL
1.2 BLK

2015-16 Dieng
27.1 MPG
10.1 PPG
7.1 RPG
1.7 APG
1.1 STL
1.2 BPG

Taj Gibson is a guy, and he has been for most of his career, a guy that has impact that goes beyond his box score. He's just a smart basketball player who plays on both sides of the ball.

Just a shame that he isn't as impactful as Dieng was the last 2 seasons

Zeitgeister · Post #280 » by **Zeitgeister** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:21 am

andyhop wrote:Just a shame that he isn't as impactful as Dieng was the last 2 seasons

What are you basing that on?

Last year Taj and Dieng were practically identical in RAPM and he wasn't nearly as efficient offensively, last year. He has the best on/off and +/- on the team.

Gorgui on/off last year: +3.9

Gibson's on/off this year: +23.8

Gorgui +/- per game: .4

Gibson's +/- per game: 4.3

This is not some anomaly for Gibson either, he's been near the top of the league in RAPM in multiple different seasons in the past.