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Post#1061 » by andyhop » Sat Dec 7, 2019 1:00 am

Rubio currently sitting 15th in the league in PIPM ( which is like a luck adjusted RPM)
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Post#1062 » by Jedzz » Sun Dec 8, 2019 5:32 am

What can we trade to get Rubio back? This team doesn't want to use Point Wiggins.
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Post#1063 » by PharmD » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:43 am

Games with 9+ assists and 1 or less turnovers:

Rubio 7
LeBron 4
then 7 guys with 2
and 23 guys with 1

Games with 11+ assists and 4+ steals:

Rubio 3
Rest of NBA 6

AST – TO ratio (MIN 10 games played and 23 minutes per game)

1. Ricky Rubio 4.88
2. Marcus Smart 3.64
= Difference of 1.24
31. Draymond Green 2.41
= Difference of 1.23
Marcus Smart is closer to #31 then he is #1.
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Post#1064 » by PharmD » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:47 am

Ricky Rubio has 73 assists to 9 TOs over his last 7 games.

He's second in the league with 9.2 APG.

He's posting close to a ridiculous 5 AST/TO ratio.

He's on pace to become the first player ever to average over 12 PPG and 8 APG with less than 2 TOPG in a season.

He's +97 on the season (18 games played).

He's got a +7.7 net rating, highest among all starters outside the top-10 teams in the league

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Post#1065 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:18 pm

Interesting that Tyus' A/TO ratio has pretty much been cut in half from last year.
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Post#1066 » by Jedzz » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:03 am

Klomp wrote:Interesting that Tyus' A/TO ratio has pretty much been cut in half from last year.


Maybe because he's feeling more pressure to offer offense or even what he's known for at a higher level due to what he's getting paid now. Maybe forcing it more. He never forced anything here, almsot to a fault. Never driving the net, never isoing on offense. His dribbling stopped before reaching the 3 pt line.
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Post#1067 » by PharmD » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:36 am

I just watched this Suns-Spurs game in Mexico City and i cannot believe that we traded away Ricky. He is sofa king good at running an offense. 9.4 assists/game (10.5/36) on 2.1 turnovers.
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Post#1068 » by minimus » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:26 am

Tyrone Wallace was waived by ATL.
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Post#1069 » by Jedzz » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:16 am

to much fun to watch

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Post#1070 » by GooniousMaximus » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:33 am

Jedzz wrote:to much fun to watch



I switched over to that on League Pass, that was a ridiculous video-game-esque finish, lol. Good ol Zach.

Would he and Rubio be doing better on this squad and coaching staff compared to Thibs and the Timberbulls?
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Post#1071 » by mplsfonz23 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:28 pm

GooniousMaximus wrote:
Would he and Rubio be doing better on this squad and coaching staff compared to Thibs and the Timberbulls?


Good question, but I think Rubio wore out his welcome here with all of his shooting problems. Also, depends on who we brought in as coach and or GM. Kind of like the draft nights, if we could know how they would turn out, we would have lots of rings by now. Also, sometimes it takes change of scenery to actually grow into a player. Rubio may have stayed the same, and who knows if Zach was ever going to be healthy again. Thibs took a win now chance and lost. POS Thibs.
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Post#1072 » by GooniousMaximus » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:59 pm

I think thats part of the problem, Minnesota historically have had some really talented players we never quite developed, with a few exceptions and even then did we do the best possible development. Latest example is KAT and Wiggins, Wiggins is definitely improved but still needs to continue to calibrate and fine tune and KAT just needs more tenacity and get over the whining part of it when he doesn't get his calls (not saying their not justified but just keep going).
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Post#1073 » by PharmD » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:42 pm

mplsfonz23 wrote:
GooniousMaximus wrote:
Would he and Rubio be doing better on this squad and coaching staff compared to Thibs and the Timberbulls?


Good question, but I think Rubio wore out his welcome here with all of his shooting problems. Also, depends on who we brought in as coach and or GM. Kind of like the draft nights, if we could know how they would turn out, we would have lots of rings by now. Also, sometimes it takes change of scenery to actually grow into a player. Rubio may have stayed the same, and who knows if Zach was ever going to be healthy again. Thibs took a win now chance and lost. POS Thibs.

Rubio's best year of his career was playing for Thibs. He was better that year than he is now. It's just that now he's playing for not-Minnesota so there's people that see him play and realize how good he is.
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Post#1074 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:35 am

PharmD wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
GooniousMaximus wrote:
Would he and Rubio be doing better on this squad and coaching staff compared to Thibs and the Timberbulls?


Good question, but I think Rubio wore out his welcome here with all of his shooting problems. Also, depends on who we brought in as coach and or GM. Kind of like the draft nights, if we could know how they would turn out, we would have lots of rings by now. Also, sometimes it takes change of scenery to actually grow into a player. Rubio may have stayed the same, and who knows if Zach was ever going to be healthy again. Thibs took a win now chance and lost. POS Thibs.

Rubio's best year of his career was playing for Thibs. He was better that year than he is now. It's just that now he's playing for not-Minnesota so there's people that see him play and realize how good he is.


I thnk there was only a two month stretch where he shot well under Thibs and continued to do everything we knew him as. Thibs relented his constant desire to replace and work around him and let him lead for a couple months to raise his trade value. Rubio got after it shooting wise like he never really had here. Either because he knew he had to for the trade or to prove everyone wrong. But it really wasn't even close to a full season of this. It was on THibs and his goof up drafting Dunn, he even Worked Wiggins at point some backing Rubio off the lead. However, would Rubio felt compelled to start shooting like that if all these events didn't drag it out of him? Not sure. But as soon as hitting the Jazz, we saw a rekindled motor and at least a desire to be able to shoot better more often.
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Post#1075 » by PharmD » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:30 am

Jedzz wrote:
PharmD wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
Good question, but I think Rubio wore out his welcome here with all of his shooting problems. Also, depends on who we brought in as coach and or GM. Kind of like the draft nights, if we could know how they would turn out, we would have lots of rings by now. Also, sometimes it takes change of scenery to actually grow into a player. Rubio may have stayed the same, and who knows if Zach was ever going to be healthy again. Thibs took a win now chance and lost. POS Thibs.

Rubio's best year of his career was playing for Thibs. He was better that year than he is now. It's just that now he's playing for not-Minnesota so there's people that see him play and realize how good he is.


I thnk there was only a two month stretch where he shot well under Thibs and continued to do everything we knew him as. Thibs relented his constant desire to replace and work around him and let him lead for a couple months to raise his trade value. Rubio got after it shooting wise like he never really had here. Either because he knew he had to for the trade or to prove everyone wrong. But it really wasn't even close to a full season of this. It was on THibs and his goof up drafting Dunn, he even Worked Wiggins at point some backing Rubio off the lead. However, would Rubio felt compelled to start shooting like that if all these events didn't drag it out of him? Not sure. But as soon as hitting the Jazz, we saw a rekindled motor and at least a desire to be able to shoot better more often.

I've always seen that season as Thibs coming in already not liking Rubio and trying to make Andrew Wiggins the primary creator/make the offense manageable for Kris Dunn and his obvious limitations.

I've always referred to the first 24 games as the "Ricky in the Corner" era. It all turned around on 12/13/16 @ Chicago, where Thibs wanted to win so bad he let his team play optimally instead of micromanaging like he loved to do. We were down 26 to 6 in the first quarter (and 6-18 on the season) when Thibs called timeout and and let Ricky take the ball. Up to that point Ricky had 6.5 assists/game. From then on he had 10.0 assists/game. We started that year 6-18, then went 22-20 before doing our traditional tank to the finish.
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Post#1076 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:33 am

Yes that recounts it well.
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Post#1077 » by Calinks » Fri Jan 3, 2020 8:03 pm

Bring him home! He's ready to contribute and reach his final form!!!!

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Post#1079 » by packforfreedom » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:09 pm

every Rubio highlight makes my heart bleed.
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Post#1080 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:51 am

Teague with a very nice first game for Atlanta.
15 points on 6-9 with a 3 and 2-2 from the line.
3 boards 7 assists a steal and like usual a block. Still boggles my mind how many blocks he gets.
One down side 5 TOs.

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