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Trade Talk: Entering the offseason

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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1541 » by SBM » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:13 am

Neeva wrote:If bate diop or hutchison are left at 29 would anyone do 20th for russell/29th?


Lol, u want get him for that. Tyus/Aldrich+20 for Russell and 29 yes. I doubt they even give you 29.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1542 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:16 am

Rusell aint worth that much lol and nets wanna make salary space.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1543 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:17 am

Neeva wrote:Rusell aint worth that much lol and nets wanna make salary space.

He's not worth Tyus? You're nuts....
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Post#1544 » by karch34 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:22 am

Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Klomp wrote:After Atlanta drafts Luka Doncic....

20/Dieng for Bazemore/34
Bazemore is not worth dropping out of the first and the many benefits of that. I am not even sure Bazemore is that much better a player.

It's not about trading 20 for Bazemore. It's about trading Dieng for Bazemore and shedding a year off a contract.


Exactly, it's balancing the roster and shedding a year.

I don't trade for Schroeder, but Dieng+20 for Baze+30 I would do.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1545 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:22 am

Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:Rusell aint worth that much lol and nets wanna make salary space.

He's not worth Tyus? You're nuts....

And the 20th and the cap space they will get, nope.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1546 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:25 am

Neeva wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:Rusell aint worth that much lol and nets wanna make salary space.

He's not worth Tyus? You're nuts....

And the 20th and the cap space they will get, nope.

It's $2 million, not $10 million....and adding the 20th will cut into that.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1547 » by SBM » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:10 am

I don't know if Russell is available but he is definitely worth Tyus+Aldrich+a pick swap. He can play PG and SG. In theory you could move from Rose and focus on someone else with exceptions.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1548 » by minimus » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:00 am

SBM wrote:Saw were Schroder and Baze are available.

Dieng+20 for Baze+30 or 34.

Dieng+20 and 48 for Shroder. You get PG of future.


lol. Shroeder is worse than Teague.

But I'd do Dieng+20 for Baze+30 or 34. In a heartbeat.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1549 » by breatnach » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:44 am

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moss_is_1 wrote:So are we not gonna do anything with Aldrich? Today is the deadline for his contract guarantee.

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I was starting to get nervous, because I thought it was June 20th for some reason. Good that we have until after the draft, when hopefully some teams will know who to target in FA.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1550 » by SmokeyK » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:54 am

If there was any weight to the #4 for Wiggins I’d send the #4 to Boston for Irving w/ him not signing extension and the Nets rumors why not get him and Butler together now


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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1551 » by SaintS » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:49 am

What market for Aldrich contract do we see?
from my point
Jeremy Lamb
Wesley Johnson
Jonathon Simmons
Kyle Korver
JaMychal Green
CJ Miles

For sure, it depends from the strategy of the teams, for example rebuilding mode for Cavs after James goes to .................
or Toronto anounce that they can move Lowry for a top pick

Real deal still Hornets and may be Orlando.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1552 » by NebWolvesFan » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:10 pm

SaintS wrote:What market for Aldrich contract do we see?
from my point
Jeremy Lamb
Wesley Johnson
Jonathon Simmons
Kyle Korver
JaMychal Green
CJ Miles

For sure, it depends from the strategy of the teams, for example rebuilding mode for Cavs after James goes to .................
or Toronto anounce that they can move Lowry for a top pick

Real deal still Hornets and may be Orlando.


Technically if Minnesota wanted to spend the money, they could trade for any player making up to 12 million dollars. In theory, Minnesota could trade Aldrich for Kemba Walker, who makes 12 million. Obviously, that won't happen, but I'm just saying there are lots and lots of players Minnesota could trade Aldrich for, if the Wolves wanted to include current or future picks.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1553 » by Slim Tubby » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:20 pm

SaintS wrote:What market for Aldrich contract do we see?
from my point
Jeremy Lamb
Wesley Johnson
Jonathon Simmons
Kyle Korver
JaMychal Green
CJ Miles

For sure, it depends from the strategy of the teams, for example rebuilding mode for Cavs after James goes to .................
or Toronto anounce that they can move Lowry for a top pick

Real deal still Hornets and may be Orlando.


If Wesley Johnson ever wears a Wolves uniform again I'm done with this squad. Green or Miles would be good additions, though.
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Post#1554 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:43 pm

Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Klomp wrote:After Atlanta drafts Luka Doncic....

20/Dieng for Bazemore/34
Bazemore is not worth dropping out of the first and the many benefits of that. I am not even sure Bazemore is that much better a player.

It's not about trading 20 for Bazemore. It's about trading Dieng for Bazemore and shedding a year off a contract.
I am aware. Shaving a year off a contract and losing up to 4 years of cheap team control on a first is ridiculous. The one extra year is not that bad and Bazemore is not that good.

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Post#1555 » by AirP. » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:19 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:Bazemore is not worth dropping out of the first and the many benefits of that. I am not even sure Bazemore is that much better a player.

It's not about trading 20 for Bazemore. It's about trading Dieng for Bazemore and shedding a year off a contract.
I am aware. Shaving a year off a contract and losing up to 4 years of cheap team control on a first is ridiculous. The one extra year is not that bad and Bazemore is not that good.

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Well, I'm good with dropping back in the draft to trade an overpaid player that isn't needed for an overpaid player that is a huge need for the team AND get 1 year less of a bad contract.

The 20th pick more than likely won't see much court time the first and possibly 2nd year team, this is no longer a team that is bad where losing doesn't matter as much, this is a team that will be gunning for the home court advantage in the 1st round of the playoffs. Plus it also opens up minutes for Patton once he's healthy, if he were to bypass Dieng in the rotation it would be a huge waste of money on a team strapped for money... plus a year earlier to get out from that bad contract to try to better structure the team around Towns who hopefully will be in the MVP race each year by that time.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1556 » by breatnach » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:28 pm

If we trade 20, you just know 21 is going to be the steal of the draft.

But Wolves pessimism aside, I think we've made our bed and now we have to sleep in it. Yes, our cap currently looks horrible, but we don't know if Jimmy will stay or not, so in 3 years time, we may only have KAT, Wiggins & Rookies on the books. Teague, Taj and Dieng will all have expired and we can retool if needed.

No need for panic moves until we know if Jimmy is committed or not.
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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1557 » by AirP. » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:39 pm

breatnach wrote:If we trade 20, you just know 21 is going to be the steal of the draft.

But Wolves pessimism aside, I think we've made our bed and now we have to sleep in it. Yes, our cap currently looks horrible, but we don't know if Jimmy will stay or not, so in 3 years time, we may only have KAT, Wiggins & Rookies on the books. Teague, Taj and Dieng will all have expired and we can retool if needed.

No need for panic moves until we know if Jimmy is committed or not.

By that time Towns and Wiggins should be eating up 60%+ of the cap so unless both of those players are playing like all-nba players, you're not going to be in a position to put enough around them to be a contender.

BTW, it's not as horrible as people seem to act, Minnesota just won 47 games with Butler missing a substantial amount of games, Wiggins being highly inefficient, Crawford being just horrible on defense, and having to build chemistry with 3 new starters, it's really not a bad position to be in going into next year.
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Post#1558 » by minimus » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:41 pm

SmokeyK wrote:If there was any weight to the #4 for Wiggins I’d send the #4 to Boston for Irving w/ him not signing extension and the Nets rumors why not get him and Butler together now


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Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1559 » by Slim Tubby » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:44 pm

I'm not sure how the hell we make it happen but this team needs to add Kyrie Irving if we want to ensure that Jimmy Buckets resigns with us. BOS will want nothing to do with Wiggins because they are loaded at the Wing. Can anyone think of a third team that could help facilitate a trade that would take on Wiggy and also provide an incentive piece to BOS?
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Re: RE: Re: Trade Talk: Entering the offseason 

Post#1560 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:03 pm

AirP. wrote:
breatnach wrote:If we trade 20, you just know 21 is going to be the steal of the draft.

But Wolves pessimism aside, I think we've made our bed and now we have to sleep in it. Yes, our cap currently looks horrible, but we don't know if Jimmy will stay or not, so in 3 years time, we may only have KAT, Wiggins & Rookies on the books. Teague, Taj and Dieng will all have expired and we can retool if needed.

No need for panic moves until we know if Jimmy is committed or not.

By that time Towns and Wiggins should be eating up 60%+ of the cap so unless both of those players are playing like all-nba players, you're not going to be in a position to put enough around them to be a contender.

BTW, it's not as horrible as people seem to act, Minnesota just won 47 games with Butler missing a substantial amount of games, Wiggins being highly inefficient, Crawford being just horrible on defense, and having to build chemistry with 3 new starters, it's really not a bad position to be in going into next year.
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