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Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:21 pm
by life_saver
His 3 point shot looks super smooth..I am glad he isn't hesitating to take open 3 shots whenever he is open unlike Teague who frustrates the hell out of me when he refuses to take open 3's

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:30 pm
by vagelis
I think he does not care so much for money.
He may resign with less money if he likes it here

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:36 pm
by Klomp
MN7725 wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:Question. If Rose continues his form throughout the year, what contract does he get next year? and Does he re-sign with us?


Wolves will be capped out next season unless Teague opts-out

I believe Wolves will only have Rose's Early Bird Rights since it will have been two seasons, and that limits what they can offer him to a little more of what the league average salary is, probably would be around $8 mil/yr for first year

Like half the league is projected to have $20 mil+ in cap space

If Rose keeps it up all year, good chance he will get better offers, but at this point in his career that might not be most important thing to him. Hard to say

From what he said early on, money wasn't what was most important. And with his shoe deal, that makes sense. For $8 million or less, that's a bargain if he can consistently do what he's been doing.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:44 pm
by Jedzz
He's a special scoring talent still. No doubt about that now. He's also a wise vet defending so he's often in the right spots doing the right thing on that end, even if he's not capable of being a high level defender.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:40 pm
by 2Chainz
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Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:44 pm
by King Malta
Klomp wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:Question. If Rose continues his form throughout the year, what contract does he get next year? and Does he re-sign with us?


Wolves will be capped out next season unless Teague opts-out

I believe Wolves will only have Rose's Early Bird Rights since it will have been two seasons, and that limits what they can offer him to a little more of what the league average salary is, probably would be around $8 mil/yr for first year

Like half the league is projected to have $20 mil+ in cap space

If Rose keeps it up all year, good chance he will get better offers, but at this point in his career that might not be most important thing to him. Hard to say

From what he said early on, money wasn't what was most important. And with his shoe deal, that makes sense. For $8 million or less, that's a bargain if he can consistently do what he's been doing.


After the last few years he's had, you'd think he'd be very keen to stick around in a place where he's (hopefully) re-launched his career, even if it means taking a bit less.

That being said, would he still feel as comfortable if Thibs was gone?

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:13 pm
by Jedzz
King Malta wrote:
That being said, would he still feel as comfortable if Thibs was gone?


I doubt he trusts anyone else the way he does Thibs. All bets are off if Thibs is gone.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:02 am
by shrink
MN7725 wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:Question. If Rose continues his form throughout the year, what contract does he get next year? and Does he re-sign with us?


Wolves will be capped out next season unless Teague opts-out

I believe Wolves will only have Rose's Early Bird Rights since it will have been two seasons, ...

I think it will have been 1.2 seasons, and all we have is non-bird rights.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:33 am
by Crazy-Canuck
shrink wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:Question. If Rose continues his form throughout the year, what contract does he get next year? and Does he re-sign with us?


Wolves will be capped out next season unless Teague opts-out

I believe Wolves will only have Rose's Early Bird Rights since it will have been two seasons, ...

I think it will have been 1.2 seasons, and all we have is non-bird rights.


If thibs is still here, I think Rose will sacrafice money for familiarity.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:55 am
by riprose
Bulls fan here who is missing the best post-Jordan bulls... I know people here (and most bulls fans) hating Thibs but.... Thank you for keeping him (so far) and reviving rose... as long as they are there, I will root for wolves...

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:28 pm
by Klomp
shrink wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:Question. If Rose continues his form throughout the year, what contract does he get next year? and Does he re-sign with us?


Wolves will be capped out next season unless Teague opts-out

I believe Wolves will only have Rose's Early Bird Rights since it will have been two seasons, ...

I think it will have been 1.2 seasons, and all we have is non-bird rights.


My interpretation is that the first contract doesn't have to be for a full season and he would have early Bird rights.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q32

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:17 pm
by minimus
Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Wolves will be capped out next season unless Teague opts-out

I believe Wolves will only have Rose's Early Bird Rights since it will have been two seasons, ...

I think it will have been 1.2 seasons, and all we have is non-bird rights.


My interpretation is that the first contract doesn't have to be for a full season and he would have early Bird rights.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q32
That's good. Although I doubt anyone will give him more than MLE.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:05 am
by shrink
Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Wolves will be capped out next season unless Teague opts-out

I believe Wolves will only have Rose's Early Bird Rights since it will have been two seasons, ...

I think it will have been 1.2 seasons, and all we have is non-bird rights.


My interpretation is that the first contract doesn't have to be for a full season and he would have early Bird rights.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q32


Thanks Klomp. That looks right.
For example, if a player signs only a 10-day contract in 2017-18 and a regular, one-season contract for 2018-19, then he is an Early Bird free agent in 2019.

Rose was under contract with us more than this, so he's Early Bird.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:49 pm
by life_saver
I don't think Rose is gonna get big contract considering his injury issues...even this season he has missed some 3-4 games already...based on some of his recent interviews, I don't think money is the main priority for him currently...he anyways has that Adidas shoe deal and as long as he is in the league, he will be earning good amount of money from that

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Sat Dec 1, 2018 8:46 pm
by Klomp
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Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Sun Dec 2, 2018 7:08 pm
by urinesane
The first page of this thread is pretty funny now.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Sun Dec 2, 2018 7:41 pm
by K4P
urinesane wrote:The first page of this thread is pretty funny now.

Atleast TwolvesFanRome knew he would be good.
TwolvesFanRome wrote:Our Back Pg is Stockton and I don t know it ??

Cmon...I accept this bet!

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Mon Dec 3, 2018 2:13 pm
by Killboard
Fun fact:

Ricky Rubio in his last season here, with young KAT and Wigs, playing in the corner for half season, with a new scheme, and his shooting shortcomings, had a ORTG 7 points better per 100 than Rose (shooting .450 from 3) or Teague had since the Butler trade.

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Mon Dec 3, 2018 3:53 pm
by 2Chainz
Killboard wrote:Fun fact:

Ricky Rubio in his last season here, with young KAT and Wigs, playing in the corner for half season, with a new scheme, and his shooting shortcomings, had a ORTG 7 points better per 100 than Rose (shooting .450 from 3) or Teague had since the Butler trade.


Rubio had an offensive rating of 115
Rose 120

Where you get your info from?

Re: TimberBulls sign Derrick Rose

Posted: Mon Dec 3, 2018 5:29 pm
by Killboard
2Chainz wrote:
Killboard wrote:Fun fact:

Ricky Rubio in his last season here, with young KAT and Wigs, playing in the corner for half season, with a new scheme, and his shooting shortcomings, had a ORTG 7 points better per 100 than Rose (shooting .450 from 3) or Teague had since the Butler trade.


Rubio had an offensive rating of 115
Rose 120

Where you get your info from?


Rose has a ORTG of 108.


https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=OFF_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&LastNGames=9&TeamID=1610612750

Where you are getting the 120?