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Post#161 » by wesleyt95 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:15 am

Neeva wrote:
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SO_MONEY wrote:Gross.

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We'd get some pieces back in that trade, Rosas isn't dumb... Even if we dont, sign Jamychal Green for MLE and roll with D-Lo-Okogie-Roco-Green-Towns that's still better than what we have now


No way im getting rid of 11

You think we're getting rid of 2 mediocre players worth about $50m without attaching 11? We'd probably be able to attract a decent FA with that core, that added with improvements from Okogie who cares if we put off PF another year either way we wouldn't have a pg...
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Post#162 » by wesleyt95 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:24 am

You guys are gonna let #11, who might be a bust, stop us from contending the next 5 years? It's either D-Lo, old a$$ Conley or waiting till 2020 to take a pg that might be good by 2022
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Re: Summer Free Agency Primer 

Post#163 » by SO_MONEY » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:29 am

wesleyt95 wrote:You guys are gonna let #11, who might be a bust, stop us from contending the next 5 years? It's either D-Lo, old a$$ Conley or waiting till 2020 to take a pg that might be good by 2022
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Post#164 » by wesleyt95 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:36 am

Do you guys realize how much better D-Lo is compared to Steph at 23? The sky is the limit, him and Towns surrounded by 3 hard nose 3-D is a contender, RoCo only has 3 yrs left we don't have too much time to waste
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Post#165 » by wesleyt95 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:39 am

I'm not saying he's better but he's on track to be a dominant pg
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Post#166 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:48 am

wesleyt95 wrote:You guys are gonna let #11, who might be a bust, stop us from contending the next 5 years? It's either D-Lo, old a$$ Conley or waiting till 2020 to take a pg that might be good by 2022

I agree with you on this, but not at the cost of RoCo. I would do Teague and #11 which is risky, because maxing a player who has had one good season is just what we did with Wiggins.
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Post#167 » by theGreatRC » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:52 am

I'd do anything outside of KAT (obviously) to get DLO here.

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Post#168 » by wesleyt95 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:58 am

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wesleyt95 wrote:You guys are gonna let #11, who might be a bust, stop us from contending the next 5 years? It's either D-Lo, old a$$ Conley or waiting till 2020 to take a pg that might be good by 2022

I agree with you on this, but not at the cost of RoCo. I would do Teague and #11 which is risky, because maxing a player who has had one good season is just what we did with Wiggins.

I've literally said nothing about trading RoCo
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Re: Summer Free Agency Primer 

Post#169 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:07 am

wesleyt95 wrote:
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wesleyt95 wrote:You guys are gonna let #11, who might be a bust, stop us from contending the next 5 years? It's either D-Lo, old a$$ Conley or waiting till 2020 to take a pg that might be good by 2022

I agree with you on this, but not at the cost of RoCo. I would do Teague and #11 which is risky, because maxing a player who has had one good season is just what we did with Wiggins.

I've literally said nothing about trading RoCo

True, but others are including him.
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Re: Summer Free Agency Primer 

Post#170 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:11 am

The Nets have traded Crabbe, Goyle and two FRPs for Prince and some cap space.
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Post#171 » by Mattya » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:36 am

Maybe some sort of swap around Miles Plumlee for Jeff Teague. Then buying out Plumlee and stretching his remaining salary. Does that open up the space we need to facilitate a sign and trade?

Or Teague, Saric, and 2nd rounder to ATL for cap space, Okogie and 11 for Russell.
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Post#172 » by andyhop » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:01 am

Do people willing to give up the farm for Russell realise just how inefficient he is?
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Post#173 » by TheDominator273 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:16 am

Mattya wrote:Maybe some sort of swap around Miles Plumlee for Jeff Teague. Then buying out Plumlee and stretching his remaining salary. Does that open up the space we need to facilitate a sign and trade?

Or Teague, Saric, and 2nd rounder to ATL for cap space, Okogie and 11 for Russell.


So in essence Teague, Saric, Okogie, 11 and a 2nd round pick for DLo?? I would love Russell here, he's got a crafty game but that's a ridiculous price to pay and really thins out the little depth we've built.
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Post#174 » by Mattya » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:33 am

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Mattya wrote:Maybe some sort of swap around Miles Plumlee for Jeff Teague. Then buying out Plumlee and stretching his remaining salary. Does that open up the space we need to facilitate a sign and trade?

Or Teague, Saric, and 2nd rounder to ATL for cap space, Okogie and 11 for Russell.


So in essence Teague, Saric, Okogie, 11 and a 2nd round pick for DLo?? I would love Russell here, he's got a crafty game but that's a ridiculous price to pay and really thins out the little depth we've built.


You might be able to get away with one of Okogie or 11, but I don't see how people think we can get Russell without giving up anything of value. It is going to take some type of value to get rid of Teague, then you have to figure out the value it will take to bring the Nets to the table on a DLo trade. Maybe it takes less though than I expect tho. If we already had cap space I would be more optimistic, but we are at the mercy of the Nets if we do want DLo with our salary situation. So, we need to hope they either renounce him, or don't ask for too much in a trade.
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Re: Summer Free Agency Primer 

Post#175 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:37 am

Maybe im the only one, but I'd rather have tyus @5 to 9 mill per year and all our picks than Russell at 20+mill per year.
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Re: Summer Free Agency Primer 

Post#176 » by Neeva » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:47 am

Russell has gotten so overated playing for the overachievig nets its not funny.
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Post#177 » by Nick K » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:29 am

Mattya wrote:Maybe some sort of swap around Miles Plumlee for Jeff Teague. Then buying out Plumlee and stretching his remaining salary. Does that open up the space we need to facilitate a sign and trade?

Or Teague, Saric, and 2nd rounder to ATL for cap space, Okogie and 11 for Russell.


Why don't you throw KAT in too? I would love to negotiate or play poker with you.

I like some of your posts but let's not get carried away.

Why do we always overvalue other teams players and undervalue ours?

For the record, I really like D'Lo here too...but only if we can get him reasonably...fairly.
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Post#178 » by Mattya » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:02 am

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Mattya wrote:Maybe some sort of swap around Miles Plumlee for Jeff Teague. Then buying out Plumlee and stretching his remaining salary. Does that open up the space we need to facilitate a sign and trade?

Or Teague, Saric, and 2nd rounder to ATL for cap space, Okogie and 11 for Russell.


Why don't you throw KAT in too? I would love to negotiate or play poker with you.

I like some of your posts but let's not get carried away.

Why do we always overvalue other teams players and undervalue ours?

For the record, I really like D'Lo here too...but only if we can get him reasonably...fairly.


I’m just not overly high on our “assets,” where Russel imo gives us a legit perimeter playmaker and appeases Towns.

I’m not at the negotiating table, I’m just trying to think of actual ways to get him here. I don’t view outright signing him as very likely, so I’m thinking of ways to have enough salary go out. Right now Okogie and Saric look like role players, 11 could become a good player and they are typically some of the most valuable contracts if they are good, but I’m not sure about the prospects in our range. Most look like career back ups or high bust/high reward potential prospects. I don’t want to lose out on a potential running mate for Towns because of our perceived “assets.”
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Re: Summer Free Agency Primer 

Post#179 » by shrink » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:13 am

With all the cap space available in the free agent market, some team is going to offer Russell a max deal, starting at $27.25. I am not high on Russell, so I think this contract will start to cause that front office Wiggins-like regrets by January.

But even if you are high on Russell, how much MORE than $27.25 mil do you think he will produce? Enough to give up all that cap space, Okogie, Saric, and #11? Who would you surround him with, with all our assets gone, and three max deal players on the books?
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Re: Summer Free Agency Primer 

Post#180 » by minimus » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:54 am

shrink wrote:With all the cap space available in the free agent market, some team is going to offer Russell a max deal, starting at $27.25. I am not high on Russell, so I think this contract will start to cause that front office Wiggins-like regrets by January.

But even if you are high on Russell, how much MORE than $27.25 mil do you think he will produce? Enough to give up all that cap space, Okogie, Saric, and #11? Who would you surround him with, with all our assets gone, and three max deal players on the books?


We need to move Wiggins to maximise D-Lo ability to create. At this point I'd give up Wiggins, #11, Saric, PHI SRP

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